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    Question @Pagans, Wiccas, and other non Christians

    I have a question concerning your various gods and how you worship them. Do you actually believe that when it thunders Thorburn is angry? Say if you wanted to become pregnant or have children, would you pray to a fertility goddess? I wondering if you believed in the ideals of the gods rather than the literal powers of them, such as control over rain, thunder, war, etc.? I'll excuse my ignorance in advance.

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    I can't speak for everyone, of course, but I feel pretty confident in writing that many people like me, who are basically agnostic but have a cultural appreciation for the Myths and Lores, see them as fables - fictional stories, born of authentic but less fantastic circumstances, meant to teach a lesson or moral.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigrun Christianson
    I can't speak for everyone, of course, but I feel pretty confident in writing that many people like me, who are basically agnostic but have a cultural appreciation for the Myths and Lores, see them as fables - fictional stories, born of authentic but less fantastic circumstances, meant to teach a lesson or moral.
    That mentality is very similar to mine, I have a deep appreciation of legends etc. I wondered if people actually believed in them literally, like in the past.

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    To some it up and put it simply, with heathenism it is more about ancestor worship than the worship of "gods". Through following your folk's ancient religion you are therefore worshipping your ancestors and your people! So it is quite deeper then just enjoying cultural folk tales. But to everyone it is something else as well, spirituality is something that is always molded to the individual.
    I envision a world where people dawning long white robes and elaborate headdresses run rampant down the streets, waving their arms in the air while screaming "we've gone mad, we've gone mad", like defrocked monks breaking the silence of ages past.

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    I can't say that I literally believe in the goddesses, gods and other beings of immortal fiber....although I can't say that I don't believe in them either. For me, Heathendom is as Sigrun said, an appreciation of the old lores, myths, and ways and also as Vanessa said, a worship of and connection with the Ancestors and our unbroken chain that binds us. To me, heathendom is our organic mythos and spirituality that was not born in some far of desert in the East but instead in the fields and woods in our native clime and land. It is inside us at an organic level and is remembered in our conscious and unconscious genetically. It is imprinted on our folk soul and 1500-2000 years of Christian brainwashing (sorry Milesian!) can't erase what has been inside us for 10,000 years of more.

    While I may not necessarily believe in a red-bearded Thunor wielding his hammer in the sky every time I hear thunder, I do fully see and hear and taste and feel the forces and powers of Nature....be it thunder, rain, snow, mountians, rivers, plains, or any other natural element. And, the goddesses and gods are sort of personifications of these forces.

    From our house, we have a wide open view to the east overlooking a river valley and a mountain....the sun rises right over the mountain and every morning I am greeted by Eoster and I thank her for her visit.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allenson
    It is imprinted on our folk soul and 1500-2000 years of Christian brainwashing (sorry Milesian!)
    You will be when the Inquisition comes knocking at your door!

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    Neton With Us!

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    I am closest with Vanessa's explaination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milesian
    You will be when the Inquisition comes knocking at your door!
    Yep. Because nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phlegethon
    Yep. Because nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.
    Exactly

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