View Poll Results: Is there a higher being(s)?

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  • Yes, I believe in all sorts of super-natural entities.

    7 15.22%
  • Yes, I believe in God.

    15 32.61%
  • Yes, I believe in powers unseen or unkown to us.

    8 17.39%
  • No, I don't believe in God(s).

    12 26.09%
  • I don't know.

    2 4.35%
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Thread: Is There a Higher Being?

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    I voted for a belief in unseen/unknown powers, simply because I feel that our knowledge of the Universe is still very limited.

    An old book called 'Aryan Sun Gods' by Titcomb makes the point that the gods of our ancestors were derived from mythological accounts of the Sun's passage throughout the year.

    So the gods are more a testament to the poetic and creative power of the race than to anything else.

    Of course it is true that the Sun is a vital power in our Solar System, so the old beliefs have much to tell us.

    It is a pity that we no longer weave tales around our observations of natural phenomena!

    It is these latter that I 'believe in', and expect that as our knowledge of the Universe grows, more 'Strange New Gods' will be discovered.
    Why are there beings at all, & why not rather nothing?
    [Leibniz/Heidegger]

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    I've done some rethinking. Julius Evola's neo-Platonic ideals of Tradition and Eternity are brilliant, and some of the Vedic ideas appeal to me as well (I'm saying some because I need to do some more reading). I'm in the middle of reconstructing my own 'religious' thought.
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    I an new here but it seems there are two great omissions concerning this topic.

    One is the religious views of Norbert Juergen-Ratthofer. "Ratthofer" is an Austrian. Perhaps Goetterschichsal knows of him and his views. He is best know for deutsche Flugscheiben but that is another matter, perhaps for another forum. He does have a lot to say about religion. He has published several books including "Wer war Odin".

    The second omission is any discussion of die Schwarze Sonne, the Black Sun. This idea rose to the level of religion during the Reich as evidence by Wevelsburg Schloss and the mosiac on its floor. This was a creation of Heinrich Himmler and must have had geat significance to him. There are all sorts of stories and rumors---none written down--concerning the Black Sun at Wevelsburg. The Black Sun was all powerful for the Nazis. Now, we know that this same Black Sun is what we call a Black Hole. In the center of each galaxy is a black hole and it is the most powerful force in the universe. No wonder Himmler held it in such high regard.

    Also, the SS, usually considered an abbreviation for Schutz Staffel is in reality an abbreviation for Schwarze Sonne, something known only to Reich insiders.

    So what's up? Are these topics of no interest or just verboten?

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    - die Schwarze Sonne, the Black Sun.

    Thanks for introducing this, good Doktor.
    I had not thought of the parallel with Black Holes!

    I see that the idea of there being two Suns in our solar system is an ancient one. The pre-Socratic philosopher Empedocles implied that there was a double sun in his treatise on Physics.
    I note from my recent reading of Cicero's 'The Nature of the Gods', that this theory was held by certain Romans also;

    "Then there is the phenomenon of twin suns; my father told me that this occurred in the consulship of Tuditanus and Aquilus, [in the year 129 BC] ...
    These manifestations caused people to panic, and to suspect the existence of some heavenly and divine power".
    [Cicero ib.,]

    This must also be linked to the Black Sun [sol niger] of Alchemy.

    To the great SS Mage K.M. Wiligut, the Black Sun [Santur] was a second sun which shone 230,000 years ago upon the Hyperboreans in the North Pole.
    It still orbits, but as a dead star [hence the link with a Black Hole - should have seen that], and emits a power to enhance the spirituality of Aryans.
    It symbolises the Shadow Reich.

    Apparently it is the colour of deep purple, or congealed blood - the noble Tyrian purple of the Romans.

    With Aryan victory the repurified White Sun - the sol invictus of Mithras - will ultimately succeed the Black Sun.
    Why are there beings at all, & why not rather nothing?
    [Leibniz/Heidegger]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Götterschicksal
    Ok, let me get this forum up and going.

    What is your opinion? Is there a higher being - no matter what one calls it (rather it be God, gods, goddesses, fairies, elfs, giants, titans, etc.)?

    My opinion is No. There is not. We are alone (as far as spiritual or super-natural beings on this world, not exculding aliens) I believe when we die, that is it - worms eat your brain and you rot and become one with the earth agian. Sad but true. The only way we live after death is through our decendents that carry our blood and practice our beliefs (hopefully).

    What is your opinion?

    I agree, I don’t believe in anything supernatural.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Solar Wolff

    The second omission is any discussion of die Schwarze Sonne, the Black Sun. This idea rose to the level of religion during the Reich as evidence by Wevelsburg Schloss and the mosiac on its floor.
    This was a creation of Heinrich Himmler and must have had geat significance to him.
    The Black Sun symbol was not Himmler’s creation. Take a look at this:

    http://www.villagephotos.com/pubbrow...selected=54466

    There are all sorts of stories and rumors---none written down--concerning the Black Sun at Wevelsburg. The Black Sun was all powerful for the Nazis.
    How do you know this if it wasn’t written down?


    Now, we know that this same Black Sun is what we call a Black Hole.
    No, we don’t know this.

    In the center of each galaxy is a black hole and it is the most powerful force in the universe. No wonder Himmler held it in such high regard.

    Also, the SS, usually considered an abbreviation for Schutz Staffel is in reality an abbreviation for Schwarze Sonne, something known only to Reich insiders.
    And to you of course.

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    I believe in lots of Gods. All the traditional Ones of my ancestors.

    They can be seen here and there, both in the bright sky and in man's courage, in the splendour of the lightning and in woman's beauty, and in a lot of other elements of reality.

    Such Deities have allways existed, and that existence was never disproven.
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    I believe in the one true God, the God of Christianity and his son lord Jesus Christ!



    Glory is to Christ! Glory to Him Forever!

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    Post I believe in a Higher Power

    Pushkin; "I believe in the one true God, the God of Christianity and his son lord Jesus Christ! Glory is to Christ! Glory to Him Forever!"

    While I am nominally a Christian, I cannot actually 'believe' in it as a sytem; but I ask - who doesn't believe in some Higher Power in some sense or another?
    Even the 'Will to Power' can be seen as such.

    Does even the most nihilist atheist really believe that there is nothing more powerful than himself in the Universe?

    So I accept that there must be a Higher 'Being' [although the latter term suggests an anthropomorphic entity, which is why I prefer the more abstract word 'Power'], both in our souls and in the Universe [even if it is we who put it there].

    I find a pantheistic paganism nearer to my tastes.
    Why are there beings at all, & why not rather nothing?
    [Leibniz/Heidegger]

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    I think humans are hard-wired to believe in something above and beyond the confines of their mortal realm. God or gods, as a human need seems to be intensely deeply rooted in human psychology. If you declare the object of that need "dead" something else will just take its place but still fill those mythic dimensions. Whether you believe God is real or not seems not as important as whether you realize your NEED to believe.

    BTW, will someone please take a shot at the subracial classification of the white "Jesus" as kindly posted by Pushkin above.
    Wagner rules!

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