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    Post Re: Nappy hair among some Irish, Scots.

    Quote Originally Posted by Imperator X

    There was an article on here a while ago about a Gaelic speaking Scotsman who shipwrecked and beached in North Africa. The native tribe didn't kill him like they usually killed all foreigners because they recognized his language as being related to their own. Food for thought.
    my history prof has said that europeans considered the irish and even some scots to be little more than savages like africans .... interestin insultin but intrestin


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    Post Re: Nappy hair among some Irish, Scots.

    Melina Kanakaredes is Greek, but I have always thought that she has some of the most beautiful curly hair.
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    Post Re: Nappy hair among some Irish, Scots.

    As someone from a Scottish Highland background and having been around many Gaels I can tell you that the opposite from what you are saying is true. The tendency is towards very strait -- maybe at most wavy hair. There is also a tendency towards very dark -- almost black hair -- with very light green or blue eyes and freckles. The Gaels I have seen have never had "nappy" hair as you describe. I have seen a few Italians may qualify as that but not any Celts. I have noticed a few redhead Irish guys with curley hair -- but never "nappy" or "kinky." The old Moorish blood rumour is not true -- although recent DNA tests have linked Celts to ancient Iberians in northern Spain many thousands of years ago -- but they were not the non-Aryan Moors that you mentioned but rather northern Europeans that migrated south during the Ice Age and hid in Iberia.

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    Post Re: Nappy hair among some Irish, Scots.

    More like the other way around.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ljót-fulfr
    but rather northern Europeans that migrated south during the Ice Age and hid in Iberia.

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    Post Re: Nappy hair among some Irish, Scots.

    Quote Originally Posted by Imperator X
    Yeah, that thought came accross my mind as well. Not surprising considering the Irish and Spanish are both Catholic and throughout history have not cared for the English to say the least.

    Milesian, what is this supposed to convey (in reference to my inquiry?)

    The dark-haired, Med looking Irish look is not from shipwrecked survivors of the Armada. Those who did survive were either killed by the English or their agents. or were helped to return home by sympathetic clans. It's difficult to image why these men (who were mostly wealthy nobles) would want to stay in a land which was poor and under hostile military rule, and if found would be executed.

    Even accepting that a few did survive and stay, they would not have been anywhere near enough to influence the gene pool in such a way.
    The Irish and Spanish share a similar root stock going back thousands of years. But the Armada myth is not very likely.

    http://www.darkfiber.com/blackirish/

    Perhaps there's more to Afro-Celt sound system than meets the eye? J/K.
    Yes, the Irish are actually descended from the Xhosa people, who were taken as slaves by Phoenicians and traded with the Atlantean survivors who had taken refuge on Ireland for a brief period before building a spaceship to take them beyond the stars. This explains the fact that Irish is a Hamitic language, despite the protestations of linguists who try to convince us it is an Indo-European language

    There was an article on here a while ago about a Gaelic speaking Scotsman who shipwrecked and beached in North Africa. The native tribe didn't kill him like they usually killed all foreigners because they recognized his language as being related to their own. Food for thought.
    I take it with a pinch of salt, really.
    If you tried to replicate it by taking a man from the Isle of Lewis and dumping him in downtown Rabat, I'd be extremely suprised if you had anything more than curious locals and a bewildered Scotsman.

    It reminds me of the text which supposedly highlights the remarkable similarity between Welsh and Hebrew. A welsh speaker told me that apart from a couple of words, he couldn't understand any of it, even the part that was supposedly Welsh
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    Post Re: Nappy hair among some Irish, Scots.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ljót-fulfr
    The old Moorish blood rumour is not true -- although recent DNA tests have linked Celts to ancient Iberians in northern Spain many thousands of years ago -- but they were not the non-Aryan Moors that you mentioned but rather northern Europeans that migrated south during the Ice Age and hid in Iberia.

    Glenlivet is correct. Iberia was the Paleolithic refuge for the people carrying the R1b marker in Europe during the last ice age. R1 b is the most common y-chromosome marker in Western Europe, although it's saturation point is reached in Ireland. There is nothing genetically to link the Irish or Scots with non-Eurpoids.

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    Post Re: Nappy hair among some Irish, Scots.

    Quote Originally Posted by Milesian
    Those who did survive were either killed by the English or their agents
    Many were robbed (lots were wearing expensive ornamentation) and killed by the local Irish, or handed over to the English. The Spanish were hardly benefactors of the Irish, they were simply aiming at undermining their old English enemies through the back door.

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    Post Re: Nappy hair among some Irish, Scots.

    I thought of a couple of other females with pretty curls. Keri Russell and Amanda Marshall (although amanda Marshall's mom was from Trinidad, so it is possible, her curls are from some non-europid source. I am not sure what her mother was racially.) I randomly uploaded the two of them below, so if you aren't sure who is who, you may need to right click on them.
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    Post Re: Nappy hair among some Irish, Scots.

    I think people are confusing "nappy" and curly or frizzy. I have always understood "nappy" as brillo pad consistency hair, tiny curls in the millimeter range -growing straight out of the scalp like that, a black term for their own hair. I have never seen this hair on anyone without at least some definite negro ancestry. And the only instances of a "black" having other than this hair is from non-negroid add-mixture. Of course most of them process their hair so it is hard to tell. This is very different than other "curly" hair, which does have a tendency toward frizziness as the individual hairs often curl separately as well as curliness having to do with a difference in hair shape and texture. There may be sub-racial reasons for the difference between tight ringlets (similar to the last couple pictured and tighter), medium curls (most of the other pics on this thread and my own -generally around an inch in diameter), and loose waves but I would be really surprised if any, except possibly really tight ringlets, had anything to do with negroid add-mixture. But then I'm not an expert on these things, just an observer of details and differences.
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    Post Re: Nappy hair among some Irish, Scots.

    I found the coolest website with.......curls!


    (Okay, I will stop posting girls with curls. I promise. This is my last curl post. )
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