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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordlander View Post
    Thanks for your post Herr Jäger ,but man was and is always the King of the predators!
    Just because we can fly higher and faster than birds, doesn't mean we are birds though.

    Quote Originally Posted by velvet View Post
    We better start to realise the bad effects of human overpopulation...
    I think that has already happened, however, what does it mean for us?
    "Nothing is more disgusting than the majority: because it consists of a few powerful predecessors, of rogues who adapt themselves, of weak who assimilate themselves, and the masses who imitate without knowing at all what they want." (Johann Wolfgang Goethe)

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    The digestive system of a herbivore (Plant eater), ruminant:



    The digestive system of a harnivore and carnivore (Meat eater) by comparsion:



    And the disgestive system of us humans:




    It´s obvious that we´re a clear mix of both the harnivore and carnivore system which makes us to omnivores. The cecum of harnivores is extremely long but our cecum is, in fact, as good as useless and atrophied. On a personal note, I even think our disgestive system is clearly more on the side of the carnivore system than on the side of the herbivore system. Humans can´t digest gras or leguminous plants, for example.

    To put it in a nutshell: It´s part of the human nature and human evolution to eat meat and I´ll not stop with this healthy and natural behaviour.

    "Judge of your natural character by what you do in your dreams" - Ralph Waldo Emerson

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    All this talk of food is making me hungry.....I'm going hunting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie View Post
    On a personal note, I even think our disgestive system is clearly more on the side of the carnivore system than on the side of the herbivore system. Humans can´t digest gras or leguminous plants, for example.
    Humans also can't process proteins in raw meat very well, we basically must heat it up (a form of pre-digesting) to salvage its full potential for our nutrition.
    Additionally, the Koala doesn't even digest anything else than eucalyptus, yet, would you call him not a real herbivore?
    Digesting grass or legumes is no requirement to be a herbivore.
    And then there are even frugivores .

    All in all, meat should be consumed for a healthy diet, yet, a case should be made to cut back on our current amount of consumption, even if it tastes just good.
    "Nothing is more disgusting than the majority: because it consists of a few powerful predecessors, of rogues who adapt themselves, of weak who assimilate themselves, and the masses who imitate without knowing at all what they want." (Johann Wolfgang Goethe)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordlander View Post
    Thanks for your post Herr Jäger ,but man was and is always the King of the predators!
    'Was' ? That is an incorrect statement.

    I would say that ore is the 'king of predators', not man. Go try hunting with no gun or arrow head. Suddenly a moose does not seem so weak.

    Quote Originally Posted by velvet View Post
    What I said before, there are just too many humans. But only because humans reproduce like rabbits doesnt mean humans become rabbits.
    Sure it does? That is how evolution works. We evolve to fit our situation.

    We better start to realise the bad effects of human overpopulation, instead of trying to save the planet with nonsense like Veganism.
    The topic is not about Veganism.

    Vegetarian diets are proven to be healthier, so I have no idea how this is nonsense. What exactly is it in meat that you need?

    Point out a single thing.

    You could likewise commit suicide with jumping from a bridge, but people obviously love to enjoy their suicide as long as possible.
    Yes, because suicide and eating vegetation are the same thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie View Post
    It´s obvious that we´re a clear mix of both the harnivore and carnivore system which makes us to omnivores.
    I do not think anyone disagreed with that. You can post a picture of your teeth and avoid all those images if you wanted to.

    our disgestive system is clearly more on the side of the carnivore system than on the side of the herbivore system. Humans can´t digest gras or leguminous plants, for example.
    Well we are not cows, are we? You assume everything is the same as one.

    For most of civilisation, Europeans lived off of bread. Just some wheat mixed with fungus, basically. No grass involved.

    To put it in a nutshell: It´s part of the human nature and human evolution to eat meat and I´ll not stop with this healthy and natural behaviour.
    Who said it was not natural?

    The point that is being made is that vegetarian diets are healthier. I eat meat too, but I do not deny that I am likely going to die of cancer because of it. It is an absolute fact that excessive meat will kill you and the environment you live in.

    As I said prior, this is why we need limitations on our freedoms. If you cannot get limitless meat, then you will simply not eat it. Crisis solved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jäger View Post
    I have seen many hunters, and most of them neither looked, nor were they, any stronger (neither in mind nor in body) than the average non-hunter.
    The hunt has depraved into a mass phenomenon available for even the weakest among us.
    Real hunting does not exist anymore. Almost anyone can look through a scope and pull a trigger, but spear and bow hunting requires a lot more than that. I've tried spear hunting and found it very difficult (I think it might be illegal as well but I haven't looked it up).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kogen View Post
    Vegetarian diets are proven to be healthier...
    Last time I read about comparing studies, there couldn't be found any difference in health between vegetarians and moderate meat consumers.
    What proof are you referring to?

    Quote Originally Posted by Athalwulf View Post
    Real hunting does not exist anymore.
    Contemporary hunting is not "unreal", it is just different, yet, the result is the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siebenbürgerin View Post
    I've to say some of these reasons are ridiculous and politically correct.

    Like the starving children from third world. When I eat meat, I don't steal it from the mouths of peoples in Africa for example. I buy it from the local market, from peasants. If I don't buy it, they will sell the meat to someone else. Humans are omnivores. Their biology isn't like the one of herbivore animals. So someone will buy it anyway, if not the farmers themselves will eat it at dinner or in the worst case it will rot.
    True, the starving third world cry me a river propaganda struck my eye too. Besides, being a vegetarian means you can still eat some animal products. To produce milk or eggs, animals have to be fed, and you still have to import grain if you don't have enough. If they wanted to be consistent they'd have promoted veganism instead.

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    We had a couple of the vegetatian types during my stay in the Marine Corps.They had no strenghth or endurance and washed out.If one choses to be an effeminate rabbit who just eats lettuce and carrots that is their right ,but I know one thing I have never seen a soldier who did not eat meat that was not a weakling and could not keep up. I'll have my steak RARE please!
    Last edited by Blod og Jord; Friday, October 30th, 2009 at 08:42 PM. Reason: Please make the posts in the right thread on topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jäger View Post
    Contemporary hunting is not "unreal", it is just different, yet, the result is the same.
    Right, I should have clarified that in my post.

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