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    Quote Originally Posted by freya3
    SO TRUE ! Too bad few people feel the way you and I do. We can blame the xtians for so much of this( ie...Feed the Children, Feed the Jews and so on...)
    We should be in charge shouldn't we;-) j/k
    But really, I don't think the blame can really be put at the feet of "xtians", it is a part of human nature that has gotten out of control, christainity is just a reflection of that. I think it is fear, fear of being judged and found wanting so we must make sure no one else feels like that. And we don't like to be told we can't do something, so "we" try and save everyone from that bad feeling of being told "no". We are a world of spoiled children and rebellious teenagerseyes:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sifsvina
    We should be in charge shouldn't we;-) j/k
    But really, I don't think the blame can really be put at the feet of "xtians", it is a part of human nature that has gotten out of control, christainity is just a reflection of that. I think it is fear, fear of being judged and found wanting so we must make sure no one else feels like that. And we don't like to be told we can't do something, so "we" try and save everyone from that bad feeling of being told "no". We are a world of spoiled children and rebellious teenagerseyes:
    True, we are. That is why we are in so much trouble!!!!!
    "I can stop trying to discover shortcuts or easy answers to why I feel dissatisfied at times. I am the only one who can make changes, right here and now."
    Dr William Brown

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    Most vegetarians look weak and bedraggled. The body needs proper meat to function!

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      1. Fishing with drift (and other modern) nets weakens & destroys ecosystems by indiscriminately killing billions of sea creatures & disrupting the sea bed
      2. Fishermen's nets kill 10 times as many other animals as the fish they are hoping to catch
      3. Fish caught in nets die an agonising slow death of suffocation
      4. Each year 15,000,000,000 land animals are slaughtered for food & an unknown but much larger number of sea creatures (including 1000's of dolphins caught accidentally)
      5. Chickens are crammed into battery cages with upto 3 other birds, they are unable to even spread their wings & many can not even stand up
      6. Unwanted male chicks (because they can't lay eggs) are gassed or pulped while their sisters go to the battery sheds
      7. Chicks are debeaked without anaesthetic to prevent them injuring each other in the unnaturally confined conditions they are kept in - this is equivalent to having your fingernails pulled out without anaesthetic
      8. Modern farming methods using growth hormones & artificial lighting mean that many chickens out grow their bones, resulting in fractured & broken legs
      9. Sows are kept tethered in stalls 1.3 x 1 metre on concrete or slatted floors - they can not even turn around
      10. Poultry raised for meat are kept in windowless broiler sheds, with around 20-30,000 in each shed, they live in an area of 10-20 cm square - fighting due to overcrowding is common & like battery hens they commonly suffer from supperating bed sores
      11. Broilersheds are artificially lit 23 hours a day to produce rapid growth
      12. Animals travel between farms & to slaughter in overcrowded transporters with no food or water - resulting in stress, injuries & deaths - legal requirements are widely ignored
      13. 95% of poultry suffer injuries before being killed & 30% suffer broken bones
      14. Problems with stunning practices mean that many animals have their throats slit while still conscious (around 6% of cattle or 200,000 per year) & are then dipped in tanks of scalding water (to loosen feathers, bristles etc.) again while fully conscious
      15. 4000 animals die spurting their blood out every minute in a British slaughterhouse
      16. Calf leather comes from animals killed at just 2 weeks old
      17. Cows were fed on the ground up remains of other cows & sheep - the result is thought to be BSE (mad cow disease) in the USA cattle are fed partly on recycled plastic pellets
      18. Cows only give milk for 10 months after they have a calf - so they are routinely artificially inseminated (ie. mechanically raped) to keep them pregnant & milking - their calves are taken away (usually at 12 hours old) for meat or export to veal crates
      19. Cows would naturally live upto 20 years but are slaughtered after 5-7 years when their milk production begins to fall
      20. In the UK animals are killed by first being stunned with electricity or a captive bolt gun (ie. a bolt is fired into their heads) before having their throats slit & being plunged into boiling water - all this happens on a production line with the animals being hung upside down from a moving conveyor belt - this is factory farming
      21. "Animals are those unfortunate slaves & victims of the most brutal part of mankind" - John Stewart Mill (philosopher)
      22. Veal calves are confined in stalls in the dark, unable to move & are fed on pigs blood , chocolate & dried milk (we are drinking the rich fresh milk of their mothers)
      23. Cows naturally produce 5 litres of milk per day for their calves - under the intensified systems of modern farming they produce 25-40 litres per day - resulting in swollen & inflamed udders - at this rate they are soon worn out
    Had I not been a vegetarian for over a decade, those stats would certainly be more than enough for me to have a huge change of mind.

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    A lot of those are worst-case instances. It is not uniformly like this.

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    Actually it is standard practise in factory farming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Innipunn View Post
    Most vegetarians look weak and bedraggled. The body needs proper meat to function!



    http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/


    Tell that to these dudes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magni View Post
    Actually it is standard practise in factory farming.
    Which is not what all farmers do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kogen View Post
    Which is not what all farmers do.
    I thought the article was about factory farming? My mistake if not.

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    Is this list telling me to become a Vegan? I read something about milk there as well, not just meat.

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