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    Question Pontids?

    I've often heard that Pontids are referred to as the Atlantids of the East.

    1. Are Pontids in general Eastern Nordic/Med mixes?

    Atlantids come in two forms, North-Atlantid and Paleo-Atlantid.

    2. Is there more then one form of Pontid?

    Gareth told me earlier in my classification thread that I was predominately Northern Pontid.

    3. Is there such a thing as Southern Pontids?

    For example, with Northern Pontids being found in (Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Ukraine, and Romania)., with southern Pontids being more common in Bulgaria, Macedonia, or Serbia?

    4. What are the main differences bewteen Pontids and Atlantids?

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    Post Re: Pontids?

    Quote Originally Posted by EMP
    1. Are Pontids in general Eastern Nordic/Med mixes?
    The are Eastern European Mediterranids.

    Atlantids come in two forms, North-Atlantid and Paleo-Atlantid.

    2. Is there more then one form of Pontid?
    There are people who describe Nordpontids, they are intermediate between Nordid and Pontid. Palaeatlantid is further away from Nordatlantid than Nordpontid from typical Pontids which are very close and mainly pigmentation is the difference.


    3. Is there such a thing as Southern Pontids?
    I think your question is answered. This means you go already in a (East-) Nordid direction and lighter pigmented than typical Pontids.

    For example, with Northern Pontids being found in (Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Ukraine, and Romania)., with southern Pontids being more common in Bulgaria, Macedonia, or Serbia?
    Its not that easy but in certain parts of Russia Nordpontids are quite common whereas typical Pontids are more on the Balkan and in the Ukraine.

    4. What are the main differences bewteen Pontids and Atlantids?
    Mainly the HLI (head length index) - Pontids have a higher skull and rounder features, are usually not as tall - though still taller than typical (Gracil-) Mediterranids or Alpinids f.e.
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    Post Re: Pontids?

    Yulia Volkova (Russia) seems to be a goos example of a Nordpontid









    Milla Jovovich (Ukrainian/Montinegran) seems to be a good example of a
    Pontid.










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    Post Re: Pontids?

    Could someone post some pictures of male pontids?

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    Post Re: Pontids?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scholar
    Could someone post some pictures of male pontids?
    Well I'm no celeberty like the two female Pontid types listed above!

    But. . . . . .

    I look Pontid in these photos of myself from four years ago.

    http://tinypic.com/68ymhc.jpg

    The second is my sister and I from a few months ago.

    http://tinypic.com/68yoso.jpg
    Last edited by Janos Hunyadi; Wednesday, July 20th, 2005 at 11:31 PM.

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    I dont think they are the best examples because they both seem to have Baltid admixture.

    Phenotypically Nord/North Pontid describes you best imho.
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    Post Re: Pontids?

    Excellent, EMP. Your thread is very interesting for several reasons.


    Your examples of Pontid are good i think. Yes, MILLA has an evident baltid component (here i agree with Agrippa), but the other girl seems to me a perfect example of pontid.

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    Post Re: Pontids?

    Quote Originally Posted by Agrippa
    I dont think they are the best examples because they both seem to have Baltid admixture.
    Could you post some pics of modern day people or celeberties who are predominately of Pontid phenotype?

    Phenotypically Nord/North Pontid describes you best imho.
    Thank you for a second opinion.

    I believe you classified me as Atlantid with Dinarid admixture the first time.

    However, I very rarely ever look as pale as I did in the photo of myself which I displayed in post #5.

    This is my natural complexion. Altough I'm a bit more tanned right now in the middle of July. Too many 95 degree days in the American South and I like to go out atleast a few times a week in the sun.

    http://tinypic.com/5un3vt

    In the pic on the right with the ugly Paki in the background I can see why you guessed Pontid rather then Atlantid (cheekbones)

    My Mother just cuaght me off guard when she took the photo and I made a wierd facial expression. My cheekbones don't stick out like that in real life. Although regardless of that I strongly believe that I look more Pontid then Atlantid.
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    By looking at your family its obvious that you are, as I am, mixed and thats why I said phenotypically.
    I looked for examples but I didnt found a typical dating side or something like that for Bulgaria or Southern Romania ad hoc where are the most typical Pontids usually. Probably somebody else is able to do so.

    In the other picture, one I saw of you earlier, you really look more Atlantid and the Dinarid (Norid) component is better visible, but from the two frontal pics I would have said immediately rather Pontid than anything else if its about your phenotype.
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    Post Re: Pontids?

    Some of my classifiers have said Atlantid/Pontid (partly) on myself

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