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Thread: Anglo-Saxon Origins: The Reality of the Myth

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    The letters 'G' and 'J' are a little bit interchangeable here.

    Similar with the letters 'B' and 'V' for Slavic people.

    'Jutland' might have been spelled 'Gutland' in former times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigebrond View Post
    There is no "bias", our ancestors originate in Germany/Austria and Scandinavia period. I never really cared that much about Jutish or Danish ancestry, and always felt a bit sorry for Northerners insecure enough to get really excited when some (dubious) DNA test tells them they have "Viking ancestry", whatever that means. I know my ancestors hail from Scandinavia regardless. I don't particularly want to be descended from Viking Age Norse settlers, because they aren't that interesting.

    Germanic identity means next to nothing, because it's just a language. All that matters is broadly Nordic identity, and to a much lesser extent an understandable amount of regional pride. England is my country, English is my language, the Angles and Saxons were my ancestors (in addition to other miscellaneous Nordic peoples). That's it, I don't particularly feel the need to rename it as something else.
    Englishness is its own phenomena and not tied down to either West Germanic or North Germanic. Our ancestors mostly originate in the nexus between the two and it's easy to pin down the exact region vis a vis others. It's funny to see those with an erection for France go on about the Franks supposedly being an important element in the settlement of Britain. There are tangents to the main stock of blood and soil roots, but the exception to the rule ought not obscure the norm.

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    English means Angles and Saxons, you can accept it or not, doesn't matter. What's worse than making too much of Anglo-Saxon heritage as a basis for your identity is going out of your way to cling to something that doesn't exist (a "Jutish Britain").

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    So, it's okay to use broad brush terms like "German" and "Scandinavian", but not embrace more precise and accurate geography to describe the region in which most of the tribal origins are sourced to? You're whinging whilst splitting hairs. Me thinketh thou doth protest too much. I use Jutish as a geographical term, due to the proximity to all the known important ethnic history of our Folk. I'm not fixated on this or that tribe and not addressing any political differences like the Heptarchy.

    I'm aware that you have an avowed German bias. The problem with that is, the fact that our English ancestors were not clearly German or Scandinavian, but overlapped on the frontier. This is the case for both on the Continent and in the Isles. It's a remarkably consistent situation and no matter the power dynamic that gives Germans greater leverage, that doesn't make Scandinavians inferior or irrelevant. You're just another Fascist obsessed with der Reich.

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