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Thread: Monotheism vs Polytheism

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    I don't follow any religion yet since it closes my mind quite a lot (I experienced Christianity). I plan to take a trip around the world to learn about Buddhism and Hinduism mainly. I want to study many religions before making a decision and even then I probably won't follow a religion, but multiple religions.
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    I oppose the mentality of "ein reich, ein fuhrer" on all levels, material and spiritual. Pluralism, regionalism, and polytheism make for healthier societies, I believe.

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    Ideally, people should accept religion as a symbolic narrative, as an important part of their culture, as an embodiment their fundamental morality, but not as any part of reality. There would far fewer religious problems if more people were able to take a "facts before feelings" approach to religion. The result would be a neutral, rational, scholarly view of each religion and the ability to judge between their corresponding values fairly.

    The problem with religion isn't really the number of Gods or the nature of those Gods or the origin of those Gods, but the thoughtless emotion ("faith") they conjure up in the majority of people. There isn't any reason to ascribe an actual living presence to deities, they are each representations of a core attribute such as beauty, war, thunder, wisdom, etc. One can praise the essence of beauty without believing a supernatural entity named Freya really exists somewhere.

    As for the Bible, I've never seen any evidence that it was written with the intention of being taken literally. God as depicted in Biblical scripture seems to be symbolic of the tyrannical rulers who dominated society- protective and generous when loved, destructive and cruel when transgressed. I believe Semitic religions were probably designed to be nothing more than political tools. Scripture like the Old Testament and Qur'an can be summarized as very long pamphlets which seek to condition people into accepting their own enslavement by flesh and blood rulers- the trick being to convince people they are serving YHWH or Allah and not the kings of ancient Israel or the Caliphate.

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    I don't think monotheism or monism is incompatible with Germanic paganism. There exists underlying, objective realities or pillars within our indigenous religions, with reflections and psychic/material evolutionary goals. Sort of like how many Hindu are offended by the label 'polytheist', since many perceive one God with many avatars/sons.

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    Not a polytheist myself, but the polytheists amongst you may like this video.

    "If we were going to stand in darkness, best we stand in a darkness we had made ourselves.” ― Douglas Coupland, Shampoo Planet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chlodovech View Post
    Not a polytheist myself, but the polytheists amongst you may like this video.

    If not a polytheist, why advocate for another's polytheistic view? I thought Catholicism was pretty cut and dry when it states that it is the Way, Truth, and Life?

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    I don't advocate this view personally, but I don't disagree with the premise - sure, the internal rationale of polytheism makes sort of sense. In a half assed way that also holds true for marxism. Doesn't mean I have to subscribe to it. It's okay to learn something new. I'm recommending a video to Heathens basically.
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    Something many people have neglected to mention. Polytheism (or Paganism if you like) has something Christianity specifically lacks, and that is a magical system. The modern concept of magic is something just popping into existence, but in ancient times it was much more complicated and could be more accurately described as a system for describing the mechanics of the universe.

    The Jews also lacked a magical system and so adopted Kabbalah from the Assyrian Pagans, but this came after Christianity branched off on its own. The Christians not only lacked a magical system, but outright forbid it. Often times "magic" in ancient times was as simple as using wild herbs in mysterious ways. In other words as medicine. It was this ban on magic that ultimately created a problem for Christians.
    Eventually they too ended up adopting older Pagan philosophies and developing them into modern science. Now there is the issue of modern science being fundamentally misaligned with the way Christianity describes the world since it has its roots in other systems.

    I'm not sure if this is also the case with Islam, they seem a tad more syncretic, but its something I've noticed among Christians and a large part of why it is failing in the modern world as many people are abandoning it for scientism or some New Age magical system, which I hate, its mostly people grasping at straws, but evidently people find even that more useful since it has exploded in a very short amount of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThornWight View Post
    Something many people have neglected to mention. Polytheism (or Paganism if you like) has something Christianity specifically lacks, and that is a magical system.
    That is debatable. There was such a thing as Christian kabbalah and you could argue there's plenty of white magic in Catholicism - from transubstantiation to amulets. And far more so in medieval times than today. Drawing pentagrams on your house to ward off demons was something medieval Christians did, but then the pentagram's points were explained as the five wounds of Christ, amongst other interpretations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chlodovech View Post
    That is debatable. There was such a thing as Christian kabbalah and you could argue there's plenty of white magic in Catholicism - from transubstantiation to amulets. And far more so in medieval times than today. Drawing pentagrams on your house to ward off demons was something medieval Christians did, but then the pentagram's points were explained as the five wounds of Christ, amongst other interpretations.
    I've heard of Christians adopting Kabbalah, yet I've never met one who actually practiced it. To be fair I've never met a single Jew who knew anything at all about Kabbalah either, for them it is something only the highest of the Rabbis know, but I tend to doubt Cardinals or Pastors are also practicing Kabbalah in their spare time so I have no idea how it works.

    Medieval people retained a lot from their ancestors. Really Occultism was common even during the American Revolution to my knowledge, however by then it had largely been subverted and conditioned around Judaism. Much of Christianity relies exclusively on faith in Christ, and trusting in God's plan, so they are in many ways opposed to magic, which is typically using your own abilities to change the future in some way. This is why in American, in spite of having a very Pagan-heavy philosophy at its inception (we even have statues of Pagan gods and symbols throughout Washington) the Puritans who came after weeded nearly all of that out.

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