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    NATIONAL SOCIALISM – AND NOT SOMETHING ELSE!

    (Editor’s note: This manifesto, from 1986, was written to lay the foundations for the resurrection of the National Socialist movement in America following the collapse of the National Socialist White People’s Party. Although it has been circulated since then among Movement leaders, this is its first publication for a general leadership. We present this document not as the final word on the subject, but rather as a starting point for discussion. We solicit your evaluation of the issues it raises and the approach it takes.)


    A little over a year ago, we had the opportunity to talk with a leading American racialist in the privacy of his home, where we could speak candidly. We asked him outright wether or not he was a National Socialist. His initial response was that he did not know how to answer our question, because, he said, if you asked 10 different National Socialists what their conception of National Socialism was, you were liable to get 10 different definitions.

    The point is well taken. So that there is no confusion in the minds of our readers, let us here, at the very outset, define what the term National Socialist means to us:

    National Socialism is the conscious application of the laws of Nature to human affairs, in general, and more specifically, to the affairs of the Aryan race.


    The great National Socialist thinker Savitri Devi expressed the same thought more poetically in her masterwork, The Lightning and the Sun:

    “… In its essence, the National Socialist Idea exceeds not only Germany and our times, but the Aryan race and mankind itself and any epoch; that it ultimately expresses that mysterious and unfailing wisdom according to which Nature lives and creates: the impersonal wisdom of the primeval forest and of the ocean depth and of the spheres in the dark fields of space, and that it was Adolf Hitler’s glory not merely to have gone back to that divine wisdom . ... but to have made it the basis of a practical regeneration policy of worldwide scope…”


    Thus, in a very exact sense, we believe that the future of our Race is inseparably linked to National Socialism. Indeed, how can it be otherwise? Aryan humanity will either once again live in harmony with the natural order, or it will cease to live at all. The present state of affairs, in which our people live in open rebellion to Nature’s laws, must be viewed in terms of great historic perspective as a temporary dislocation, for no race can flout forever the scientific prerequisites which form the basis for its existence.

    Sickness is never a permanent condition – the patient either recovers or dies. Those racialists who seek some other cure for the ills now afflicting our folk are peddling a false panacea, however well-intentioned they may be. No political ideology, no economic reorganization, no social uplift or cultural renaissance, none of the various forms of Christianity nor any appeal to the pagan past or our ancestors – no, nothing at all except as an organic component of National Socialism offers any real hope to our people in this New Dark Age of racial disintegration and spiritual decay.

    It will be National Socialism, or nothing at all.

    The following further elucidate our understanding of National Socialism and the National Socialist struggle today:

    1. White revolution is the only solution! Only the complete overthrow of the present race-destroying System, and the total obliteration of the Old Order which it represents, will serve the interests of our people. No reformism, and no comprimise with the enemy!

    2. Accordingly, the proper form for National Socialism to take at this time is that of a revolutionary political movement for the liberation of our people.

    3. National Socialism must be a mass movement (which is not to say a mass party) if it is to be successful.

    4. We reject terrorism as a strategy for White revolution and racial liberation, on the grounds that it is impractical.

    5. The entire North American continent north of the Rio Grande is the proper and exclusive birthright of the Aryan people of America. No partition!

    6. National Socialism must be presented in an American manner if it is to be accepted by American Aryans.

    7. National Socialism must be presented as being part of the future, and not as a nostalgic longing for the past. We must refrain from focusing on National Socialism prior to 1945, and instead leave that to those who are more concerned with it than we are. This certainly does not mean, however, that we fail to recognize the unique importance of Adolf Hitler either to our Race in general or to our Movement in particular.

    8. We recognize that the National Socialist worldview, being based on the scientific method, is constantly evolving, and that it is not a static doctrine or a stale, dried-out dogma. Within the framework of its basic immutable principles, chief among which are the concepts of Race, Personality, and Struggle, it not only admits, but indeed welcomes new data concerning the history and biological condition of our Race, which challenge old assumptions, superstitions, and prejudices.

    9. Pan-Aryanism is the keystone of National Socialist foreign policy. The narrow nationalism of the 19th century, which has helped keep our Race divided against itself for the benefit of our enemies, must be superseded by international Aryan solidarity. One Race, One Struggle, One Movement!

    10. National Socialism must oppose both Capitalism and Marxism with equal force.

    11. In keeping with the innermost kernel of the National Socialist Idea, our public outreach must embody our love of our Race and not the hatred of other peoples.

    12. We view all Christianity as being fundamentally alien to the genius of our Race. It is a Levantine creed, based on a Levantine conception of god, and on Levantine spiritual values, and it cannot be effectively “Aryanized” by any method or interpretation. It is part of the problem facing our Race, not part of the solution.


    Each of these points deserves further elaboration, discussion, and examination. Taken together, they serve as a solid foundation for the creation of a new, powerful, and victorious National Socialist movement in North America.


    Source:
    The National Socialist International Bulletin #1, 1992, published by the National Socialist Counsil

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    I think that this is quite a nice and short glimpse on National Socialism, although I do not agree with all of the twelve points mentioned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wissen ist Macht
    Each of these points deserves further elaboration, discussion, and examination. Taken together, they serve as a solid foundation for the creation of a new, powerful, and victorious National Socialist movement in North America.
    Is the author actually serious? It is astonishing anyone could believe that a movement that labels itself "National Socialist", or explicitly subscribes in any way to core national socialist ideas, has a snowball's chance in hell of being victorious in North America. Surely one only has to take a cursory glance at the spectrum and frequency of various political viewpoints in America to recognize that it is infinitely more likely that the US will find itself under the rule of some sort of pseudo-Christian theocratic fascist regime than that it will ever find itself under a national socialist regime. It should also be obvious that publicly attacking Christianity alone will earn anyone who does so the bitter enmity of tens of millions of Americans from some of the most racially aware parts of the country.
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    White power revolution, Panaryanism, Northern Rio Negro Americans,.. if that would be National Socialism - good night everybody...:speechles

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    The whole concept of an "Aryan Race" is based on 19th century racial pseudoscience, and has been discredited by modern anthropology. In any case, one doesn't need to believe in the notions of an Aryan race or Pan-Aryanism to believe in the importance of preservationsim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Telperion
    The whole concept of an "Aryan Race" is based on 19th century racial pseudoscience, and has been discredited by modern anthropology. In any case, one doesn't need to believe in the notions of an Aryan race or Pan-Aryanism to believe in the importance of preservationsim.

    Could you tell us what, exactly, has been discredited by "modern Anthropology" in the notion of "Aryan Race"?

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    Isn't it related to "Whites" as a more linguistic term now in Indo-European? Although I have read about studies done in genetics and anthropology concerning groups like Punjabs in northern India and Pakistan who are much more similar to any possible 'Aryan invaders' than the original Indian population.

    These Hindu nationalist types can only use their ancient literature, which btw is written in an IE language which they did not possess originally, to try and refute the evidence.

    The few Indian NS I've spoken with on the matter believe that it occured, and the evidence is the population difference in the north, but the invasion itself was limited.
    "If a policy strengthens our people, if it increases the survivability of our people, it is a good policy. If it weakens us or puts us at a disadvantage in the struggle for survival, it is a bad policy. That's all that matters. That's all that we should consider. Racial survival, racial victory in the struggle for life and dominance, must be the goal of every plan, of every policy, of every thought and action. Tribal thinking."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rollon
    Could you tell us what, exactly, has been discredited by "modern Anthropology" in the notion of "Aryan Race"?
    The notion that northern Europeans (or any Europeans) form a distinct "Aryan Race" is a myth. First, the term "Aryan" only properly applies to the Indo-Aryans, a linguistic group found in Iran and parts of the Indian sub-continent and adjacent regions. Second, anthropological and genetic investigation reveals that Europeans are formed from a mix of Caucasoid sub-races, with the Upper Paleolithic stock being prevalent in large parts of northern Europe. E.g. 80% of the population of modern Britain is descended from the U.P. inhabitants of Britain. Nordic types are sometimes called "Aryan" by people with a certain ideological perspective and in common parlance, but scientifically that term is a misnomer, for the reason noted above. No serious anthropologist uses the term "Aryan" in connection with Europe. Please review the wealth of anthropological material available on this website for further information on these points.

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    National Socialism is organic; it evolves and adapts to changing circumstances.

    Enough said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Telperion
    The notion that northern Europeans (or any Europeans) form a distinct "Aryan Race" is a myth. First, the term "Aryan" only properly applies to the Indo-Aryans, a linguistic group found in Iran and parts of the Indian sub-continent and adjacent regions. Second, anthropological and genetic investigation reveals that Europeans are formed from a mix of Caucasoid sub-races, with the Upper Paleolithic stock being prevalent in large parts of northern Europe. E.g. 80% of the population of modern Britain is descended from the U.P. inhabitants of Britain. Nordic types are sometimes called "Aryan" by people with a certain ideological perspective and in common parlance, but scientifically that term is a misnomer, for the reason noted above. No serious anthropologist uses the term "Aryan" in connection with Europe. Please review the wealth of anthropological material available on this website for further information on these points.
    Of course, I become more familiar with the material of this forum as time passes by.

    The myth you are pointing to has never appeared (to my knowledge) in anthropological works of the 19th century or any other century. Maybe you should be more precise and give us names or titles of books, because you statement is quite direct and thus potentially unfair for researchers whose works were as objective as one is entitled to expect.

    "Pseudoscience" is a word we often hear. I do not think that it deserves such a success. Let us examine what science is. Does science claim it possesses the universal truth? or is it a work in progress that relies on results of the past to build our present-day knowledge? It is a work in progress. Current anthropology relies on results from the 19th century and improves on them. Most scientific facts known in the 19th century were incomplete, and present results are incomplete too; incompleteness is the norm of human knowledge, and our knowledge today is not as incomplete, even if it is more complete, than it was in the past. Yet they are no more close to the complete truth than they were in the 19th century, and 19th century scientists are as respectable as today scientists are.

    Unless you bring evidence that 19th century anthropologists were nothing more than would-be Nazis, I would see it as fair that you withdraw such a uselessly aggressive statement against people whose memory we should honore.

    Be aware that those who often dismiss ideas as "pseudoscience" are no true defenders of freedom of speech and freedom of science, and that dismissing any work as "pseudoscience" is in fact a dogmatic fashion of banning freedom of science. Their caricatures you should ignore and try to know by yourself what scientists have said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Telperion
    The notion that northern Europeans (or any Europeans) form a distinct "Aryan Race" is a myth. First, the term "Aryan" only properly applies to the Indo-Aryans, a linguistic group found in Iran and parts of the Indian sub-continent and adjacent regions. Second, anthropological and genetic investigation reveals that Europeans are formed from a mix of Caucasoid sub-races, with the Upper Paleolithic stock being prevalent in large parts of northern Europe. E.g. 80% of the population of modern Britain is descended from the U.P. inhabitants of Britain. Nordic types are sometimes called "Aryan" by people with a certain ideological perspective and in common parlance, but scientifically that term is a misnomer, for the reason noted above. No serious anthropologist uses the term "Aryan" in connection with Europe. Please review the wealth of anthropological material available on this website for further information on these points.
    Aryan is only a useful racial concept if it refers to a spiritual race and/or race of the soul (according to the division of race of the body, soul, and spirit, as used by Julius Evola and the Italian Fascists), or a spiritual "chrism" of a given group.

    Of course there are certain requirements regarding the race of the body as well, not all racial groups or individuals have what it takes to become Aryans (some have too low IQ, others are too controlled by their instincts and emotions, and have other ideals to follow), but racial materialism only captures aspects of reality. The ancient "Aryans" were in contact with several ethno-racial groups, but not all of those groups were influenced by the contact.

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