Is an Italian-Pakistani Europid or not?

[Glenlivet]

Do you think (or what do you think of them as, regardless of the realities of schemes based on physical anthropology) that an Italian-Pakistani person is Europid or not? It is a bit hard to say though, as it is only by ethnicity (or even just nationality, as regional and individual differences are rather big in both countries), and without having seen the person.

[Vojvoda]

Is she good looking?

[Nordgau]

Well, ethnic Italians are Europids and Pakistanis are Europids, too, though there is perhaps Mongolid influence in some regions.

Europid: yes - but I don't think I would regard such a person as "white".

[Glenlivet]

She is cute.

Is she good looking?

[Nordhammer]

:arab
I would estimate the great majority, 98-99%, of Middle Easterners are not compatible with Northern Europeans even if they are purely Caucasoid. There is more overlap with Southern Europeans, probably around 70% with them. There may be some "goodlooking" Middle Easterners, and many Northern European men and women may have find them attractive and have sex with them or marry them for whatever reason, but this would not be on racial grounds.

If the person is Italian-Pakistani, then chances are the person will look more Pakistani(unless the Pakistani parent was exceptional). But there is a good chance that person will blend in as Italian with no problem(just look at Jason Biggs).

For instance, if I go to www.iranianpersonals.com, I don't even seen one person who is very similar to a Northern European. Could they pass as Italian? Maybe some of them.

[Glenlivet]

Well, Italians are not "Northern Europeans", although the very north of the country got autonomous regions which are closer (linguistically and culturally, and perhaps also racially) to France, Austria and Germany.

Maybe your estimation is correct if you talk about blondism and if we take into consideration what could be called Nordid characteristics. Turkey should have more than 1-2 %.

Pakistanis are South Asians, not Middle Easternerns. The girl that I am talking about could blend in Calabria and Sicily. Her brother is darker and would not be mistaken for being from any European or Middle Eastern country. Their mother is a partially blond Italian with fair skin and dark blue eyes. The father is a very dark Pakistani who got fine features like Vijay Singh, the Fijian (born to Indian parents) golf player.

Why should they even be compared to "Northern Europeans"? Is it because you think that Nordid is the ultimate caricature of what is Europid? Italian and Pakistani personals are more relevant for a comparison.

Cheers

:arab
I would estimate the great majority, 98-99%, of Middle Easterners are not compatible with Northern Europeans even if they are purely Caucasoid. There is more overlap with Southern Europeans, probably around 70% with them. There may be some "goodlooking" Middle Easterners, and many Northern European men and women may have find them attractive and have sex with them or marry them for whatever reason, but this would not be on racial grounds.

If the person is Italian-Pakistani, then chances are the person will look more Pakistani(unless the Pakistani parent was exceptional). But there is a good chance that person will blend in as Italian with no problem(just look at Jason Biggs).

For instance, if I go to www.iranianpersonals.com, I don't even seen one person who is very similar to a Northern European. Could they pass as Italian? Maybe some of them.

[goidelicwarrior]

Do you think (or what do you think of them as, regardless of the realities of schemes based on physical anthropology) that an Italian-Pakistani person is Europid or not? It is a bit hard to say though, as it is only by ethnicity (or even just nationality, as regional and individual differences are rather big in both countries), and without having seen the person.

may i ask why whats the purpose with this comparison????

[Nordhammer]

Well, Italians are not "Northern Europeans", although the very north of the country got autonomous regions which are closer (linguistically and culturally, and perhaps also racially) to France, Austria and Germany.

You asked if she would be considered Europid, but as we all know there is a lot of range in "Europid", especially depending upon if we're calling Middle Easterners or "Asians" Europids, which is a stretch of the word. So I propose that regarding Northern Europeans, she would unlikely fit, but in Southern Europe she may pass without a problem.

Maybe your estimation is correct if you talk about blondism and if we take into consideration what could be called Nordid characteristics. Turkey should have more than 1-2 %.

No, I'm not merely talking about blondism or having blond hair. We all know it's more than that - the phenotype overall.

Pakistanis are South Asians, not Middle Easternerns. The girl that I am talking about could blend in Calabria and Sicily. Her brother is darker and would not be mistaken for being from any European or Middle Eastern country. Their mother is a partially blond Italian with fair skin and dark blue eyes. The father is a very dark Pakistani who got fine features like Vijay Singh, the Fijian (born to Indian parents) golf player.

Why should they even be compared to "Northern Europeans"? Is it because you think that Nordid is the ultimate caricature of what is Europid? Italian and Pakistani personals are more relevant for a comparison.

"Asians" is very broad as well, combining Eastern Caucasian types with Mongoloids... so I use the term Middle Easterner often to represent these Eastern Caucasian types who happen to originate in North Africa and Western Asia. The term Middle East encompasses parts of North Africa and Western Asia. Pakistan may not part of the Middle East but I think they are racially similar.

http://www.pakistanicelebrities.com/gallery/

Her brother is "darker" and would not be mistaken for a Europid? What then, an Indian? Would he look more like Vijay? Vijay is incredibly dark, as dark as or darker than most Negroids here actually.



He's the one who made the "sexist" statement about Annika Sorenstam of Stockholm, Sweden, who is the top player on the LPGA and is the first woman since 1945 to compete on the PGA tour.



He said he wouldn't play if paired with her, and she had no business playing in a man's league. Of course, his "minority" status gives him political privileges a white/Europid guy doesn't have -- in his own country at that! lol

If your real question is, "would she make a good mate for me, racially?", then I would say yes - since you both have "Asian" and "Europid" ancestry.

[Loki]

Your post is now back, Nordhammer. Sorry for my blunder

:crucified

Now, what I wanted to say was this:

Vijay Singh is a fool - he seems either afraid or intimidated to play competitive golf against a white female. Maybe it is a cultural thing... in most non-white cultures, women are seen and not heard. Non-whites generally can't stand it when Scandinavian females are ambitious or progressive in life...

[goidelicwarrior]

You asked if she would be considered Europid, but as we all know there is a lot of range in "Europid", especially depending upon if we're calling Middle Easterners or "Asians" Europids, which is a stretch of the word. So I propose that regarding Northern Europeans, she would unlikely fit, but in Southern Europe she may pass without a problem.

it is notable that you dident travel in Europe, neither north or south.. why do you insist on making connections betwen Italians and Black Pakis ??? it makes no sense and if that mongrel would fit in anywhere it would be in the multiracial mess of uSA..