Skull Measurement from 25 World Populations: Iranians

**PARTHIAN** · Sunday, July 20th, 2003

Iranians to all:

Selected Populations: Iran, Sub-Saharan Africa
Similarity: 12%
Selected Populations: Iran, Australo-Melanesia
Similarity: 25%
Selected Populations: Iran, Eskimo
Similarity: 25%
Selected Populations: Iran, East-Asia
Similarity: 34%
Selected Populations: Iran, Jomon-Pacific
Similarity: 40%
Selected Populations: Iran, Nubia(Bronze Age)
Similarity: 43%
Selected Populations: Iran, Nubia(Christian)
Similarity: 43%
Selected Populations: Iran, India
Similarity: 55%
Selected Populations: Iran, Greece, Neolithic
Similarity: 59%
Selected Populations: Iran, Somalia
Similarity: 64%
Selected Populations: Iran, Upper Egypt(Predynasty)
Similarity: 65%
Selected Populations: Iran, Switzerland, Neolithic
Similarity: 67%
Selected Populations: Iran, Amerindian
Similarity: 69%
Selected Populations: Iran, Lower Egypt(Predynastic)
Similarity: 77%
Selected Populations: Iran, Portugal, Neolithic
Similarity: 77%
Selected Populations: Iran, North Africa
Similarity: 80%
Selected Populations: Iran, England, Neolithic
Similarity: 82%
Selected Populations: Iran, France, Neolithic
Similarity: 84%
Selected Populations: Iran, Russia, Neolithic
Similarity: 84%
Selected Populations: Iran, Germany, Neolithic
Similarity: 86%
Selected Populations: Iran, Central Europe
Similarity: 88%
Selected Populations: Iran, Jericho
Similarity: 88%
Selected Populations: Iran, Denmark, Neolithic
Similarity: 91%
Selected Populations: Iran, North-West Europe
Similarity: 96%

Hi! And what mean that?

**cosmocreator** · Monday, July 21st, 2003

And what is the source of this? It would seem to me that Iranians would be closest to Pakistanis and NW Indians or possibly to Eastern Europeans.

**Stríbog** · Monday, July 21st, 2003

Originally Posted by cosmocreator

And what is the source of this? It would seem to me that Iranians would be closest to Pakistanis and NW Indians or possibly to Eastern Europeans.

There were no comparisons given to Pakistanis/Punjabis/Kashmiris etc.
I imagine its from that racial distance calculator at racearchives.com.
The only reason they may be more similar to NW Europeans is if it were Mediterranean NW Europeans that were tested.

**Götterschicksal** · Monday, July 21st, 2003

As far as I know, there is no one subrace for all iranians. The ethnics are just as diverse as here.

**Loki** · Monday, July 21st, 2003

Intriguingly, the population of present-day Iran, speaking a major Indo-European language (Farsi), appears to have had little genetic influence from the M17-carrying Indo-Iranians. It is possible that the pre-Indo-European population of Iran—effectively an eastern extension of the great civilizations of Mesopotamia—may have reached sufficient population densities to have swamped any genetic contribution from a small number of immigrating Indo-Iranians. If so, this may have been a case of language replacement through the ‘‘elite-dominance’’ model (29). Alternatively, an Indo-Iranian language may have been the lingua franca of the steppe nomads and the surrounding settled populations, facilitating communication between the two. Over time, this language could have become the predominant language in Persia, reinforced and standardized by rulers such as Cyrus the Great and Darius in the mid-first millennium B.C. Whichever model is correct, the Iranians sampled here (from the western part of the country) appear to be more similar genetically to Afro-Asiatic-speaking Middle Eastern populations than they are to Central Asians or Indians. This finding contrasts with a recent analysis of Eastern Iranian populations, which have high frequencies of Y-chromosome haplogroup 3, defined by the M17 analogue SRY-1532A (30). It is likely that the Dasht-e Kavir and Dasht-e Lut deserts in the center of the country have acted as significant barriers to gene flow.

Excerpt from study:

The Eurasian Heartland: A continental perspective on
Y-chromosome diversity

R. Spencer Wellsa,b, Nadira Yuldashevaa,c, Ruslan Ruzibakievc, Peter A. Underhilld, Irina Evseevae, Jason Blue-Smithd,
Li Jinf, Bing Suf, Ramasamy Pitchappang, Sadagopal Shanmugalakshmig, Karuppiah Balakrishnang, Mark Readh,
Nathaniel M. Pearsoni, Tatiana Zerjalj, Matthew T. Websterk, Irakli Zholoshvilil, Elena Jamarjashvilil,
Spartak Gambarovm, Behrouz Nikbinn, Ashur Dostievo, Ogonazar Aknazarovp, Pierre Zallouaq,
Igor Tsoyr, Mikhail Kitaevs, Mirsaid Mirrakhimovs, Ashir Charievt, and Walter F. Bodmera,u
aImperial Cancer Research Fund Cancer and Immunogenetics Laboratory and Wellcome Trust Centre for Human Genetics, University of Oxford, Headington
OX3 9DS, United Kingdom; cInstitute of Immunology, Academy of Sciences, Tashkent, Uzbekistan; dDepartment of Genetics, Stanford University School of
Medicine, Stanford, CA 94305; eDepartment of Medical Genetics, Archangelsk State Medical Academy, Archangelsk, Russia; fDepartment of Human
Genetics, School of Public Health, University of Texas, Houston, TX 77030; gCentre for Advanced Studies in Functional Genomics, School of Biological
Sciences, Madurai Kamaraj University, Madurai, India; hMark Read Photography, 2 Beatty Road, London N16 8EB, United Kingdom; iDepartment of Ecology
and Evolution, University of Chicago, Chicago, IL 60637; jDepartment of Biochemistry, University of Oxford, Oxford OX3 1QU, United Kingdom; kInstitute
of Molecular Medicine, University of Oxford, Headington OX3 9DS, United Kingdom; lDepartment of Pediatrics, State Medical Institute, Tbilisi, Georgia;
mImmunology Laboratory, Mikaelin Surgical Institute, Yerevan, Armenia; nDepartment of Immunology, University of Medical Sciences, Tehran 14496,
Iran; oTajik State Medical Institute, Dushanbe, Tajikistan; pPamir Biological Laboratory, Khorog, Tajikistan; qGenetics Research Laboratory,
Chronic Care Center, Hazmieh, Lebanon; rInstitute of Nutrition, Almaty, Kazakstan; sInstitute of Cardiology, Bishkek, Kyrgyzstan; and
tState Medical Institute, Ashgabad, Turkmenistan

Contributed by Walter F. Bodmer, June 15, 2001

**xakep** · Tuesday, July 22nd, 2003

Dear PARTHIAN,

Would you please give us the source of this data ?

Originally Posted by cosmocreator

And what is the source of this? It would seem to me that Iranians would be closest to Pakistanis and NW Indians or possibly to Eastern Europeans.

How would they be closest to Eastern Europeans if table clearly shows that it is the opposite:

Selected Populations: Iran, England, Neolithic
Similarity: 82%
Selected Populations: Iran, France, Neolithic
Similarity: 84%
Selected Populations: Iran, Russia, Neolithic
Similarity: 84%
Selected Populations: Iran, Germany, Neolithic
Similarity: 86%
Selected Populations: Iran, Central Europe
Similarity: 88%
Selected Populations: Iran, Jericho
Similarity: 88%
Selected Populations: Iran, Denmark, Neolithic
Similarity: 91%
Selected Populations: Iran, North-West Europe
Similarity: 96%

From my point of view this table is just some random shit, since the author wouldn't even provide the source.

Best Regards,
Xakep