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    Post Re: AW: Where'd you learn how to classify?

    Quote Originally Posted by Armin FW
    My knowledge on racial classification (subraces of the europid race) is not worth mentioning.

    I suppose there is enough need for proper education in this matter here to make a living. So I make a proposal regarding THE Supreme Master Of Racial Classification - Agrippa:

    How about building the Agrippa´s Online School For Racial Classification?
    I am sure he would find sufficient numbers of people willing to share his knowledge.

    (Anmerkung zu Agrippa auf Deutsch: Du bist hier, glaube ich, wirklich der Beste in dem Thema, Hut ab!)

    Bye (with a twinkle in my eye ), Armin
    Excellent ideas Armin

    Personally i don't need any school. I have my own school . Although this , i consider Agrippa the "master of Kung-fu" in terms of anthropologic knowledge................

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    Post Classifications

    I may have missed something obvious, but where does one find out all these different names for 'sub-races' and what, exactly, they mean?? thanks

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    Post Re: classifications

    Quote Originally Posted by signofthehammer
    I may have missed something obvious, but where does one find out all these different names for 'sub-races' and what, exactly, they mean?? thanks
    My friend, a good place to start would be the SNPA Race Gallery, which expands upon the various Nordish (North European) sub-races.

    http://www.snpa.skadi.net/rg-main.htm

    The SNPA includes the following:

    Central Nordish Subraces:

    Central Root Types: Brünn, Borreby and Nordic (Hallstatt and Keltic)

    Central Stabilised Blends: Anglo-Saxon (Nordic/Brünn intermediate), Trřnder (Nordic/Brünn intermediate) and Fälish (Nordic/Borreby intermediate)

    Periphery Nordish Subraces:

    North-Western Periphery Types: North-Atlantid (Nordish altered by Atlanto-Mediterranean) and Paleo-Atlantid (Nordish altered by Atlanto-Mediterranean)

    Eastern Periphery Types: East Baltic (Nordish altered by Ladogan) and Neo-Danubian (Nordish altered by Ladogan)

    Southern Periphery Types: Noric (Nordish altered by Dinaric) and Sub-Nordic (Nordish altered by Alpine)

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    Post Re: classifications

    In this part of the forum the racial diversity of the human species is discussed:

    Skadi Forum > Physical Anthropology


    Subraces, types or variety is a racial category determined by a inherited (mostly physical) feature combination which represents a certain racial specialisation, adaptation.

    Pictures and maps of the main subracial groups of the species:

    Pictures of the Human Races of the World and Useful Maps


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    Re: Classify my mother

    Thankyou. Can you reccomend me a link or something where I can learn about the history of the races just mentioned (total newbie). I've been searching around but I can't seem to find much. Also, there is a distinction between north atlantid and paleo atlantid.

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    Re: Classify my mother

    Quote Originally Posted by overture
    Thankyou. Can you reccomend me a link or something where I can learn about the history of the races just mentioned (total newbie). I've been searching around but I can't seem to find much. Also, there is a distinction between north atlantid and paleo atlantid.
    Just search the board, you will find plenty of information and links too.

    For the beginning:

    Pictures of the Human Races of the World and Useful Maps
    What Does a Basic Racial Typology Describe in Europe?



    From Lundman:

    The Races and Peoples of Europe, by Bertil Lundman


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    Something I'd like to see.

    We all have our reasons for posting here. I'm primarily interested in the classifications! i find them highly interesting. But asked for classification, and I got it. That was neat, but I want to learn a bit more about why certain people are classified so. Most classifications are mixtures between several different types. I'd like to see some kind of detailed analysis of what particular aspects show signs of being Keltic, or whatever. I've seen the Nordish website, and I have a good idea of what each type is, but I'd like to know what you see as Bruenn or Dinarid, or whatever. I know I'm new, but I think it'd be great to have an analysis where you describe the specific parts of a face and how it makes you think that it relates to a certain type. I am only stating this as a beginner who is interested in the science. You have to realize that when you throw out a mixture of thee different types, then it's not obvious to everyone which characteristics you are referring to.

    I posted in my thread, as the last post, that I'd like a bit more feedback about what exactly make you classify me as such. I don't have any kind of vested interest in how I'm classified, I'd just like to be able to see it myself, as all of them seem to make senes, but I feel if each person gave an explanation as to why he feels that a certain type applies then I'll get a better understanding myself, because otherwise it just seems like a bunch of opinions. If you clarify it a bit more, it seems a bit more concrete.

    Anyway, I'll link my thread here, hoping that you guys will explain your classifications with a bit more detail.

    http://forums.skadi.net/wanna_try_me-t90783.html

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    Re: Something I'd like to see.

    You bring up a good point. Often, no usually people don't explain their classifications. I am guilty of doing this myself. Sometimes classifications really don't need much an explanation, if the person is an exemplary representative of a given type. But most of the time, the subjects morphology doesn't allow a clear-cut classification, because most people show traits from more than one subrace. Understanding the classifications is even more bewildering because most of us do this as a hobby and have next to no extensive experience in Osteology and Anthropometry, beyond what we read on the internet or in books, a course or two we have taken in college. A professional Physical Anthropologist would use a craniometer and calipers to make measurements of a persons skull and then compare it with the mean indices of various populations or subraces to make a taxonomic classification. We aren't able to do that with people over the internet, so we are hindered in the precision of our classifications. This activity can never really go beyond a (intelligent...hopefully) guessing game in its scientific rigour. So, as you can see, these classifications are bound to be disparate contradictory, because of the complex subracial heritage of modern humans, the lack of expertise, and our limited resources.

    So when an individuals morphology is clearcut and the classifications are all the same, no explanation should be needed. When however you have various permutations and combinations of three or more subraces, people should probably explain how they arrived at their conclusions. Trust me its irritating to say the least, when you write a paragraph or two exploring the specific features of an individual subject, to make your case, and your classification includes three or more elements, and then someone comes along and just says 'Brunn' and nothing more.
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    Classification Help / SNPA Glossary etc. etc.

    Hopefully there will be racial classifications in the future so those of you who dont know what we are calling people and why here are some resources you can use.

    http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/
    http://www.biodiversityforum.com/index.php
    http://www.amorsite.shorturl.com/


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    In my opinion are some of those sources dubious and wrongful even for the blinded individual or the ingrate. but nevertheless interesting, I like to classify, but mostly if people belong to a special archetype... the hybrids bother me constantly, but can be a puzzle as well. Mostly I found out that people don't like to hear the truth about them selves. Wish for a bit more professionalism than often seem around forums for classification though.

    Its never black/white, but much more complicated, and its racially rooted so people are controlled and biased, there is no other way, and deal with strangers as they appear.

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