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    Post About the classification system

    I'm here with us from several months ,now. I've read hundreds of classifications, but i have to say that the classification system needs more stable points of referment ; i mean, a very clear and "universal accepted" gallery of human types. Modern examples, very defined for every subracial type. Sure, SNPA and other sites have good galleris, but we can do better, i think. The SKADI official gallery.

    I do this, cause too many times, i realize that every classifier, hs point of referment different from another, so the final opinion will be different from another..............example : when i think about the BRUNN, a certain image come into my mind, but probably , when Gareth, Thiudans, think about the same, a different example comes into their minds. Obvious subjectivity of everyone of us.


    What do you think ? (I'll begin with the U.P. types, in the next post............)

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    Post Re: Our Subjective Examples :

    Well, by the moment i have nothing of better to do at the moment i can begin with U.P. types types......................


    BORREBY :

    When i think about the Borreby type in his PUREST form the first image coming in mind to me is Kirsten Dunst in few words (my individual perception, i admit. If i'm in error, someone correct me, please)




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    Post Re: Our Subjective Examples :

    I can understand the motive behind this, but I fear the same result may come as came from the S.N.P.A. New members are given a single classification system, and fail to realize or consider the validity of other forms.






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    Post Re: Our Subjective Examples :

    I have a request too. For the sake of validity, please back up every type with skull examples.






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    Post Re: Our Subjective Examples :

    A comparison between Alpinid and Borreby I created once (it gets more detailed from time to time):

    Although the brachycephalic, infantilized and corpulent tendencies are shared, the small trait diversity is often opposed (Alpinid <-> Borreby):
    blockheaded yet roundish - blockheaded yet coarse
    medium build with short limbs / tall big-boned build
    platycephalic / top of the vault flattened - turriform / roundish top
    low head of virtually medium dimensions - high head of virtually great dimensions
    face rounded at the angles - angles of the face angular
    cheekbones restrained - flaring parietals
    narrow maxilla and alveolar retraction with short and low palate - flaring breadths
    browridges absent - somewhat overhanging forehead and/or browidges present
    back of the head rounded then dropping into the neck - occiput almost vertical
    skull spheroid seen from top - cuboid seen from top
    forehead steep - forehead fleeing
    intermediate pigmentation - blondism

    Borrebies from Gotland (the first guy might be more Cromagnid)


    A Swede or Norwegian


    Dietmar Baer



    Scandinavian Borreby girl


    Man from Stuttgart combined with Borreby skull


    Another Norwegian
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    Post Re: Our Subjective Examples :

    What does this guy seem like, Lappid-admixture or Borreby?



    PS: Please be aware of the difference between Borreby and Cromagnoid/Phalian.
    Borrebies are brachycephalic relatives of the later, developed into a different direction.

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    Post Re: Our Subjective Examples :

    Thanks, Gareth, for supporting my attempt.

    Yes, Cromagnids and Borrebies shouldn't be confused each other. Cromagnids are more leptomorphic , i think.

    Your comparation between Alpinids and Borrebies is good. I could suggest even new data for height (updated to our days), but here we're in a diifficult field.


    The guy in the last pic is very robust, but the head is a bit long.........perhaps is not brachycaphalic like he could appear. Perhaps Borreby + some other ?

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    Post Re: Our Subjective Examples :

    Quote Originally Posted by Celtic Tiger
    Yes, Cromagnids and Borrebies shouldn't be confused each other. Cromagnids are more leptomorphic , i think.
    Coon used the term "unreduced" which describes the condition good.

    A thread on the topic:
    http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=25651
    Your comparation between Alpinids and Borrebies is good.
    I created such notes about every subrace and at the end it will result in a good overview of small-traits-diversity.
    The guy in the last pic is very robust, but the head is a bit long.........perhaps is not brachycaphalic like he could appear. Perhaps Borreby + some other ?
    Maybe the brachymorphic admixture was superimposed on Nordic.

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    Post AW: Our Subjective Examples :

    How about if people who are really adept at this topic would build up a database here on Skadi with 'modern' pictures and characteristics for racial classifications.

    I am not quite good at classifying and could not tell the difference between Phalian and Borreby for example. But I'd really like to improve my knowledge on this subject and such a database would be a great help.

    What can be downloaded from the web right now mostly is from the time of Third Reich, the photos are b/w only and the quality is often poor.

    So, is someone here willing to contribute to such a project? I really would appreciate this.

    regards, Armin

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