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    Spengler: Is world peace possible?

    In the 1930s, Cosmopolitan organised a poll regarding world peace. Several well-known individuals responded, resulting in a series of articles. The following is Oswald Spengler's reply, which was published in the Cosmopolitan of January, 1936.


    Is World Peace Possible?
    Oswald Spengler

    The question whether world peace will ever be possible can only be answered by someone familiar with world history. To be familiar with world history means, however, to know human beings as they have been and always will be. There is a vast difference, which most people will never comprehend, between viewing future history as it will be and viewing it as one might like it to be. Peace is a desire, war is a fact; and history has never paid heed to human desires and ideals.

    Life is a struggle involving plants, animals, and humans. It is a struggle between individuals, social classes, peoples, and nations, and it can take the form of economic, social, political, and military competition. It is a struggle for the power to make one’s will prevail, to exploit one’s advantage, or to advance one’s opinion of what is just or expedient. When other means fail, recourse will be taken time and again to the ultimate means: violence. An individual who uses violence can be branded a criminal, a class can be called revolutionary or traitorous, a people bloodthirsty. But that does not alter the facts. Modern world-communism calls its wars "uprisings," imperialist nations describe theirs as "pacification of foreign peoples." And if the world existed as a unified state, wars would likewise be referred to as "uprisings." The distinctions here are purely verbal.

    Talk of world peace is heard today only among the white peoples, and not among the much more numerous colored races. This is a perilous state of affairs. When individual thinkers and idealists talk of peace, as they have done since time immemorial, the effect is always negligible. But when whole peoples become pacifistic it is a symptom of senility. Strong and unspent races are not pacifistic. To adopt such a position is to abandon the future, for the pacifist ideal is a static, terminal condition that is contrary to the basic facts of existence.

    As long as man continues to evolve there will be wars. Should the white peoples ever become so tired of war that their governments can no longer incite them to wage it, the earth will inevitably fall a victim to the colored men, just as the Roman Empire succumbed to the Teutons. Pacifism means yielding power to the inveterate nonpacifists. Among the latter there will always be white men -- adventurers, conquerors, leader-types -- whose following increases with every success. If a revolt against the whites were to occur today in Asia, countless whites would join the rebels simply because they are tired of peaceful living.

    Pacifism will remain an ideal, war a fact. If the white races are resolved never to wage war again, the colored will act differently and be rulers of the world.

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    Post Re: Is world peace possible?

    Quote Originally Posted by Siegfried
    Pacifism means yielding power to the inveterate nonpacifists.
    Pacifism will remain an ideal, war a fact. If the white races are resolved never to wage war again, the colored will act differently and be rulers of the world.

    Prophetic............................... ..............................

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    "Prophetic.............................. ..............................."

    It sure is, but it hasn't yet happened. Spengler thought in terms of centuries, and to him the 21th century West would be one of authority, power and corruption, beginning of its end. Year 2200 and beyond he marked as westerners returning to atavistic social conditions and epidemical decadence. Well, the end of the West may very well be the beginning of our races.

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    Re: Spengler: Is world peace possible?

    Progress is always born out of conflict. Life is harsh, every organism has to fight in order to survive, and through fighting our natural enemies, we evolve towards a higher level of existence.

    In the Bible, the snake Lucifer gives Adam the fruit of the tree of wisdom, thus ending his purposeless life in the Garden Eden and freeing him from Jehova's chains of ignorance. Through this conflict with "god", he starts to have children and evolve.

    Let the liberal weaklings dream of peace, for we will crush them with the hammer of wrath and, once again, claim our birthright!

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    AW: Spengler: Is world peace possible?

    Well, I think we can be quite sure about what Cosmopolitan meant by "peace", but to think only on this interpretation of the term seems to be too simple to me and thus silly.

    It's not that I wouldn't accept a definition of peace like that, I think it's inacceptable to skip the question what peace really is for oneself.

    To me peace seems to be total balance or like Evola stated in his "Revolt..." the absence of any need to intervene.

    So peace and war can be found on all levels, from countries fighting each other to everyone's personal mind whereas the extremes, total balance as well as total unbalance, aren't much more than theoretical values.

    Hence peace, and I'm talking of total peace, may be imaginable, but it's so rare and would last such a short time it wouln't have any impact on the world.

    At the end I have to admit I made this rather a philosophical topic than talnking about (meta-)history, but others did so before...

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