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    God bless you my child

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    Originally posted by Milesian
    God bless you my child
    SILENCE HUMAN! I am no one's child...maybe except Lucifier's, but that's a different story I will not delve into. :o
    Last edited by Conquistador; Wednesday, July 9th, 2003 at 11:45 PM.

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    Originally posted by Conquistador
    SILENCE HUMAN! I am no one's child...maybe except Lucifier's, but that's a different story I will not delve into. :o
    "You belong to your father, the Devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. Yet because I tell you the truth, you do not believe me!"

    Come on Conquistador, give yourself over to the light side of the Force

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    I picked Atheist/Agnostic.

    Until about 2 years ago, I was a very committed Evangelical Christian. Then intellectualism, reason, evolution, race, logic, etc etc got the better of me. I think I have finally broken with my religious past - I will never view religion in the same traditional fatalistic sense again. I do retain some *cultural* interest in religion.... I mean it is part of Europe's history and evolution. And I am fascinated with the pre-Christian religions of Europe, especially Norse/Germanic paganism. Thus, I like to read up on Asatru, Hindrvitni, etc.

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    Originally posted by Milesian
    "You belong to your father, the Devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. Yet because I tell you the truth, you do not believe me!"

    Come on Conquistador, give yourself over to the light side of the Force
    It IS too late. I have given myself to the Philosophy of Nietzsche and to the Roman God, Mars.

    You will cease and halt this fanatical crusade of yours to "save my eternal soul", otherwise, I will be forced to crucify you as a sacrifice to the Roman God of War. MUHAHAHAHA...really.

    :crucified
    Last edited by Conquistador; Wednesday, July 9th, 2003 at 11:46 PM.

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    Originally posted by Milesian
    Once my research of my faith brought me to the truth about Catholicism (ie that since the 1960's Catholicism has been infiltrated, warped and usurped by Jews, Freemasons, Homosexuals and other perverts in attempts to discredit the Church and ultimately cause it's collapse, I've became very dedicated to rooting out this cancer and restoring the true faith and the doctrines which have been tossed aside by wicked men.

    I'm on a mission
    Which "doctrines" were in your view changed and what deviations from the "true faith" were in your view introduced by Vaticanum II?

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    I'm guessing the usual ones brought up by Catholics who oppose Vatican II: Masses should still be rendered in Latin; non-Catholics are hell-bound, etc.

    This is an anti- Vatican II traditional Catholic site:
    http://www.truecatholic.org/

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    Originally posted by Thorburn
    Which "doctrines" were in your view changed and what deviations from the "true faith" were in your view introduced by Vaticanum II?

    - Thorburn
    Hi Thorburn,

    Well there are many subtle and not so subtle changes.
    The greatest threat is the heresy of Modernism, (which the clergy are no longer asked to take an oath against)
    The changes in the Mass (changed from the "Tridentine" Latin Mass to the "Novus Ordo Missae" or "New Order of the Mass") means basicaly that the Mass today is a Protestantised Mass. In fact it resembles Luther's "Evangelical Mass" more than a proper Catholic Mass. Even down to priest facing the people, falsifying the Words of Consecration, removing part of the missal and replacing it with Lutheran prayers etc.
    It was created by Annibale Buignini, who was on numerous occasions practically "exiled" from the Vatican before being allowed back by his cronies so he could construct the New Mass. He was later discovered to have been a high ranking Freemason and exiled in disgrace. He described the New Mass as "B]A major conquest of the Catholic Church[/b] ".
    The False Ecumenicism whereby JPII declares all religions to be good, Jews are our brothers,etc which are in direct contradiction to the teaching of the Church through the ages.
    The denial of such fundamental doctrines as "Extra Ecclesia Nulla Salus ".
    Orders to "tolerate" rather than convert.
    The Church is no longer the "Church Militant" but rather a humanistic, feel-good, human religion.
    JPII is loved by the world, everyone think's he's a great man, a man of peace. He basicaly has a Cult of Personality about him.
    I think he would have been better being a rock star.
    He only wants to look good. To make the Church attractive to people. He apologises for things he has no right to (the Crusades,etc) and scandalises the Church.
    He still speaks against abortions, women priests,etc.
    But he does so only so that he can appear to be conservative. He is as liberal as the last couple of Popes.

    In essence, everything is going to plan according to the goals of the Italian Masonic sect, the "Alta Vendita" who spoke of how the centuries long fight to destroy the Church and turn the people against it had changed to subverting the Church, raising up a Pope who was imbued with their ideals, and make the Church serve their interests.
    "Let the clergy march under our banners, all the while thinking that they march under the Apostolic keys".

    Vatican II was the fulfilment of that goal.
    One Vatican offical described Vatican II as "The French Revolution of the Catholic Church"

    There are some good Traditionalists out there who still hold the correct Pre-Vatican II faith though we are few in number, but we are spread throughtout Europe, North America and Australia.

    I guess I've already went on too much and I've not even scratched the surface yet, but hope it's gave you some idea.

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    Striborg, the site you posted is actually run by a nutcase and isn't a good example. He is a Sedevacantist and a crazy one at that. He's shunned by other Tradionalists.
    Here's a better one : http://www.romancatholicism.org/

    http://www.catholicism.org/

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    Originally posted by Milesian
    Once I became old enough to think for myself, I became interested in my heritage (of which Catholicism was a large part).
    Once my research of my faith brought me to the truth about Catholicism (ie that since the 1960's Catholicism has been infiltrated, warped and usurped by Jews, Freemasons, Homosexuals and other perverts in attempts to discredit the Church and ultimately cause it's collapse, I've became very dedicated to rooting out this cancer and restoring the true faith and the doctrines which have been tossed aside by wicked men.

    I'm on a mission
    Your post really made me smile. I agree 100% with your assessment of what's been happening to the Catholic Church since the 60's.

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