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    Bisexual drug-abusing NON-satanist, Aleister Crowley:
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    i loved ''diary of a drug fiend'' ive tried reading the book of lies,the book of the law and another one but its difficult to get far and still know what the hell hes on about.
    his magickal diaries are very good,entertaining reading however.sorry this is off topic...

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    I did not know you were into Thelema, Scathach!
    Yes some of his books are difficult to understand, unless you know how to 'interpret' them.
    If you have any questions on what you've read, PM me. I might be able to help you out.

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    i dont know how into it i am,,he was certainly interesting and ive enjoyed what ive read (i really loved those diaries! and his small essay on giving up heroin!) but when it comes to the book of the law im rather confused...what the hell was the man on about ?
    i like his idea of the true will and find in essence that it really is quite true but when it comes to ''nuit'' and all his ideas throughout that albeit small book...well :dot explains it more adequately!
    have you read a lot of his stuff yourself?

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    I've read nearly everything he's ever written, and own almost all his books.

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    oh i see, i didnt think you sounded like a likely ''fan'' of his but you have to read people to make objective decisions of course.i'd be interested in talking to you about him sometime if you ever wanted to? but for now im going to sleep!

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    I'm not a fan of his lifestyle, and I feel that in many ways he was a disgusting individual.

    That said, I've learned alot from him.

    We can talk about him whenever you like.

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    i actually got into a crowley sort of mood after talking about him yesterday so i went and read the book of the law , now admittedly it made far more sense this time (the last time i read it was over 2 years ago) but im still a little unsure as to what EXACTLY is the point. i understand it was supposedly dictated by Aiwass (im not sure where i stand on that) and that its really just dealing with the law of thelema and our true will and also it seems a lot about worshipping him, well not crowley but Horus - the child? perhaps also about expanding our mind and knowledge through drugs (''i am the snake that giveth...'') for him/our gain?
    i agree that we are stars,and composed of our experiences and also that we all have a true will, more difficult is the carrying out of whatever ones' will is.
    there are some little things that i dont quite understand either - the Khabs is in the Khu, not the Khu in the Khabs (what?!) ''Who worshipped Heru-pa-kraath have worshipped me ; for I am the worshipper......... etc.just some random things really.
    of course i'm least impressed with this : ''The fool readeth this Book of the Law , and its comment; and he understandeth it not ''

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    Originally posted by Prospero
    I have looked briefly at his work; he strikes me as a fat, oaf
    Oh really? He was an avid mountain climber and big game hunter, and able to hold asana ('perfect posture') for hours without moving.
    He was also a very educated man, with a good grasp on chemistry and higher mathematics.

    You strike me as a person who does not know what the hell he is talking about, and simply wants to badmouth Crowley because I've told the truth about your jew-gypsy hero Howard Levey.

    Originally posted by Prospero
    whom basically complicates his writings to cover the basic stupidity of it all!

    If I were to look at some complex mathematical equation it would look like 'complicated' gibberish to me, because I do not have the ability/training to understand it.
    Same thing here. Just because your brain is not capable of understanding the man's writings, does not mean the writings are 'stupid'.

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    Obviously this is a subject that is close to your heart, judging by the responses you have posted. I undertsand that I have been close-minded by judging this man based merely on what few quotes of his I have heard and what I have read about him, but in saying that I probably have a fairly accurate picture of the him as well.
    I have my own beliefs and his philosphy, beliefs and practises are all offensive to me.

    If you want to immerse yourself in them then I'm sure your big enough to make your own decisions and far be it from me to get all judgemental. I merely stated I had no time for him and at least through his connection with Freemasonry (if not the occult itself - what difference?!) then there is a connection with Jewish mysticism (Kabbala) from which Masonry derives much of it's content.

    However, at no time did I attack you on a personal level or resort to petty name calling. I feel your response was unwarranted.
    In future I will keep my opinions to myself.

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