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    Screwdrivers' lyrics speak volumes: "On the streets of Ulster, the battle rages on, British people fighting for their land..."

    The Irish are not British. This reminds me of the English propaganda song "Four Green Fields". "I have four green fields, one of them in bondage........my four green fields will bloom again
    said I..."

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    Originally posted by Sigrun Christianson
    They're just mad 'cuz they aren't Irish, Scathach. Everyone around the world loves Irish people, but there are a lot of countries and people who have scores to settle with those ... English people.
    Ain't that the truth

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    Just to clear up a few points about Ian Stuart & Skrewdriver:

    Ian was NOT anti Irish, and this can be seen in his support for the old Irish WP band Celtic Dawn, who supported Skrewdriver in the UK on one or more occasions at B&H gigs. Ian supported white unity globally. He was vehemently ANTI IRA and this can also be seen from his "Smash the IRA" song. Ian also said, and it's on recording, at a gig before they played "Smash the IRA" that he had "nothing against Irish people" but that "anyone who supports the murdering scum in the IRA should be hanged".

    Being British, he supported the rights of the unionist/loyalist/British people of Northern Ireland and was at one stage heavily involved with the National Front. The NF in the UK is staunchly pro loyalist. There's a famous photo of Ian wearing a "Queen's Bar, Portadown" shirt voicing his support for "loyal Ulster".

    One of Skrewdriver's bassists in the mid 80's was a guy from Portrush in Co. Antrim called Merv Shields. No need to guess what side of the fence this chap was from.

    So, did Ian "support" loyalist paramilitaries? The answer lays with him in the cold, dead earth and also with his close associates. I would speculate that yes, he had some sympathies for them in the face of what he would have seen as an "IRA onslaught against British people".

    Bear in mind that most British WP bands are staunch British "nationalists" first and foremost, approaching their "white nationalism" from a very colonial and imperial perspective (the Skrewdriver song "White Power" has the lyrics - "once we had an empire, now we have a slum".), yet they hail the vanguard of the National Socialist movement in Germany who bombed their cities, killed their soldiers, grandfathers and innocents (get the picture here?).

    Also, Celtic Warrior (who have a song called "Ole, Ole, Ole - hang the pope and the IRA)", a WP band from Wales, played a C18 show in Co. Antrim sometime ago (with another band that escapes my memory at this time). Plus Razor's Edge, a C18 band, played a gig in Portadown with No Remorse a few years back! So, what does this tell us? Not a good indication for WN people who consider themselves Irish. British WN policy is to "maintain 'British' Ulster" for as long as possible. This is obviously not the view of Irish WN people. The very aggressive British WN stance will definitely alienate a lot of potential WN from Ireland.

    What young Irish WN people need to do is build a strong resistance to such ignorance.

    The British WN "scene" and movement is full of hypocrisy so it's up to our young folk to tackle these lies and set people straight on the issues. Plus, on a more positive note, A LOT of WN folk from around the world I have met, and know personally (some involved in B&H bands and scenes) are totally supportive of the Irish cause for national self determination, the preservation of Irish culture and identity in Ireland (and beyond), plus the removal of all British military and politcal interference in Ireland's domestic affairs. So, we are not alone.

    If we're going to be "anti IRA" all the time, let's at least try and understand the reasons for the PIRA's birth.

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    Are you guys really talking about Screwdriver? If you are, you can't be serious. My 24 year old son listens to Screwdriver. This guys are not anit-Irish. They have no clue about the ideas you are discussing. Screwdriver is usually thought of in the main stream as something like a skinhead band. It is not. Listen to it. This is prison music. It is what inmates in prison and the guards, I might add, listen to. (White prisoners that is). A prison guard in prison language is called a "screw driver". Of course, in modern America, going to prison is a right of passage so naturally this music is popular. The fact that it is racial reflects the condition behind bars. There are so many people in prison in America that it has its own subculture. This subculture is so pervasive that even the prison guards, the screwdrivers, listen to it.

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