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    Quote Originally Posted by Bittereinder View Post
    Leave me alone WK if I wanted to talk to a vegetable I would go to the fridge and get one.
    Is that where you keep your wife?

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    I can't speak for anybody else but I joined to travel to exotic lands, meet exotic peoples and kill them.
    I found some footage of you on tour SB.

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    Although the word "Commando" was wrongly used to describe all Boer soldiers, a commando was a unit formed from a particular district. None of the units was organized in regular companies, battalions or squadrons. The Boer commandos were individualists who were difficult to control, resented formal discipline or orders, and earned a British jibe that"every Boer was his own general".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bittereinder View Post
    I found some footage of you on tour SB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bittereinder View Post
    I found some footage of you on tour SB.

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    My older brother served in Vietnam as a combat soldier from '68-'69. What he experienced there destroyed his youthful innocence. He came home to us a very troubled man.
    Aside from an ever increasing number of mortals who have willfully chosen to worship Satan and his minions, our battle has always been against the powers and principalities operating surreptitiously throughout this twisted world.

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    Passionate Soldier Reveals What He Saw In Vietnam


    Indeed Vietnam is one of the most interesting geopolitical events in the 20th century. The reason behind that war is still obscured...

    Anyway Apocalypse Now and FMJ does a prity good job of conveying that sense of hell on earth.

    Lt Col Kilgore is one of those immortal characters from cinema that will define the 20th century.

    Ride of the Valkyries come on people cool factor of 10 000.

    "I can't speak for anybody else but I joined to travel to exotic lands, meet exotic peoples and kill them."

    Sounds like Lt Col Kilgore's epitaph.
    Although the word "Commando" was wrongly used to describe all Boer soldiers, a commando was a unit formed from a particular district. None of the units was organized in regular companies, battalions or squadrons. The Boer commandos were individualists who were difficult to control, resented formal discipline or orders, and earned a British jibe that"every Boer was his own general".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volk und Rasse View Post
    Just like Spengler wrote it. A historical moment like this was predictable.
    Spengler's no prophet for humanity, as he didn't take the unpredictable element into account.

    Quote Originally Posted by Astragoth View Post
    Then there's the dumbing down of the entire education system. Common core math for example was designed to be impossible so whites would get the same grades as non whites. Our entire education system caters to non whites and white kids are ignored or called nazis.
    Is it really a dumbing down if the educators have deliberately avoided or shut down any kind of proposed substantial reform for over 70-80 years? All the recommended reforms proposed today are superficial in comparison. Proposals such as the elimination of Latin/Greek from the curriculum, except for specialized training i.e. philologists? Or the omission of mandatory secondary languages, which are again, only suited for specialized training i.e. diplomats? I'm sure most people choose to learn a second language so they can boast about it to their friends and flaunt their privilege. What's the whole point of teaching art and music to inartistic people? It remains undigested and they eventually throw it overboard as useless or they produce caricatures of it. The education system has been dying for centuries and this "dumbing down" you speak of is merely the inevitable outcome. It's because the teachers don't want to step down from their pedestal and re-learn everything that they enable it's stagnation. After all, in the elite's view, the people only exist for the state and the state demands that “the young man must one day become a useful member of human society.” Get a job, make money, pay taxes. That's the basic sum of the average successful life.

    I'll give some advice despite my contempt for America. How to awaken the average American?

    Tragedy is the best purgative. He must lose everything that has kept him tethered to the status quo. I'm speaking from experience. From my youth, my aim was always to live a carefree normal life. Get it done and out of the way so I don't have to think about it. That was my attitude towards all homework. Under the IQ system, I'd have probably been ranked below average. Math was always my worst subject, it's the one thing I could never overcome. I was robbed of this privileged normal life via systematic verbal abuse. It'd have at least been bearable if I had been received Stoic training and had been physically beaten up from an early age by picking fights with people (another thing I picked up from Hitler. The past me would have been appalled at this recommendation). But since I only had Christianity to lean upon at that time, I was turned into a nervous wreck, unfit for life. As such, I never got to graduate from high school and was turned into a social pariah/hermit. Yet this deprivation and total isolation has afforded me a tremendous amount of time for reading and studying and I think it proper of me to say that I've far exceeded most of my peers, since they stopped learning after they graduated. How many people can honestly recall what they learned in school?

    Following that, he must awaken an instinct for beauty, this is the lesson ancient Greece has in store for him. Read the classics. Study the architecture and sculptures (doing it right before you sleep would be the best time since you don't usually think about these things). A humanistic training is fundamental and one of the chief qualifications for leadership.

    And needless to say, he must not neglect training of the body. "The body profits little" is the antithesis to Spartan training. This biblical directive wasn't originally intended to be read by everyone, it's only for the highly cultivated wise men, spiritual masters, elderly, etc. that it's relevant.

    Quote Originally Posted by Astragoth View Post
    The good news is the kids are rebelling to this treatment. The latest generation in America is starting to be called "generation zyklon". They've been called "nazis" by teachers so often while non whites get away with murder they simply laugh and roman salute. The jews could very well find themselves longing for the good old days of the SS.
    Do you have non-sensationalist sources for this?

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    Ukraine war raises spectre of conscription in Germany

    Berlin (AFP) – Germany scrapped compulsory military service just over 10 years ago, but the conflict in Ukraine has reignited the debate around whether young men and women should be required to fight for their country.

    Conscription was introduced in Germany in 1956 with men over 18 expected to serve in the army for a year, though they could claim exemption due to moral objections.

    The practice was gradually wound down and finally scrapped in 2011 as part of moves to save money, and in line with Germany's traditionally cautious approach to defence as a result of its post-war guilt.

    But Russia's invasion of Ukraine last week has led to a wholesale shift in Germany's approach to its armed forces, known as the Bundeswehr, and led to renewed calls for some form of military service.

    Wolfgang Hellmich, a politician for Chancellor Olaf Scholz's centre-left Social Democrats (SPD), called for an "urgent" debate on the issue in an interview with the Rheinische Post newspaper on Tuesday.

    Compulsory military service would help "promote public spirit", he said, also calling for careers in the Bundeswehr to be made more attractive to young people.
    Defence spending up

    Patrick Sensburg, the president of the German Reservists' Association, has called for the reintroduction of military service through a general framework for both men and women.

    This could take the form of "one year in which young people who are of age and have completed their education do something for the state and the community", he told the Rheinische Post newspaper.

    Voices from the conservative CDU, now in opposition after 16 years in power under Angela Merkel, have also come out in favour of conscription.

    In the state of Lower Saxony, CDU members have put together a paper calling for the reintroduction of military service as "a decisive signal for ensuring an effective military deterrence," according to Die Welt newspaper.

    CDU MP Carsten Linnemann told the Bild daily he was in favour of "a year of compulsory service for young men and women after completing their schooling".

    This could also take the form of a year of service in the social care sector or the emergency services, he said.

    "This would strengthen the resilience of our society to crises" and promote skills that are necessary in "these persistently difficult times", he said.

    However, the reintroduction of military service would require a two-thirds majority vote in the Bundestag lower house of parliament, and not all MPs are in favour.
    'Major deficits'

    Eva Hoegl, a Social Democrat and the Bundestag's defence commissioner, has called the debate "a theoretical discussion that does not help in the current situation".

    And Florian Hahn of the CSU, the CDU's Bavarian sister party, said Germany needs "technology and weapons systems", not just an increased head count.

    Germany has steadily reduced the size of its army since the end of the Cold War, from around 500,000 at the time of reunification in 1990 to just 200,000 today.

    But in a landmark speech on Sunday, Social Democrat (SPD) Chancellor Olaf Scholz said the world was entering a "new era". He promised an extra 100 billion euros ($113 billion) of investment in the chronically underfunded Bundeswehr in 2022 alone.

    Scholz has also dramatically reversed Germany's stance on weapons exports as a result of the conflict, as well as committing to spend more than two percent of GDP on defence.

    According to Joachim Krause, a professor of political science at the University of Kiel, NATO will have to "switch back to a deterrence strategy" as a result of Russia's offensive in Ukraine.

    Germany will have no choice but to comply with this, he said in an interview with TV channel Sat1, which will force it to face up to "major deficits" in its armed forces.

    "I think we might have to reintroduce conscription," he said.

    France24

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