View Poll Results: Dos honor have a reasonable, valid basis?

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  • Yes. The feeling of exclusivity and posession is necessary for the homan mind somehow.

    58 93.55%
  • No. It is largely the product of rules of a certain society, obsession and prejudice. It is dispensable and counterproductive.

    4 6.45%
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Thread: History and Decline of Honour

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    Poll: does honor have a reasonable, valid basis

    What is your opinion about this particulary human notion that has been in one form or the other throughout most of history?
    Last edited by Amorsite; Saturday, August 12th, 2006 at 11:31 AM.

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    Re: Poll: does honor have a reasonable, valid basis

    How do you define honour? Like this?....

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honor

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    Re: Poll: does honor have a reasonable, valid basis

    Quote Originally Posted by Bridie View Post
    How do you define honour? Like this?....

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honor
    I would say it is the need of the mind to feel itself special and relentless somehow at every time.

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    Re: Poll: does honor have a reasonable, valid basis

    I would say that honour is of great importance. It is, at its best, a selfless characteristic that benefits others as much as it benfits the individual. I regard honour as a beacon that will lead an individual on to a path of right and noble action. Today we often read of honour at its most twisted, such as "honour killings," these can in no way be described as honourable actions as honour should expand the common good.

    Honour is a gift that a man gives to himself. As articulated by the wife of Rob Roy McGregor in Alan Sharps' screen play.

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    Re: Poll: does honor have a reasonable, valid basis

    Quote Originally Posted by Tabitha View Post
    I would say that honour is of great importance. It is, at its best, a selfless characteristic that benefits others as much as it benfits the individual. I regard honour as a beacon that will lead an individual on to a path of right and noble action. Today we often read of honour at its most twisted, such as "honour killings," these can in no way be described as honourable actions as honour should expand the common good.

    Honour is a gift that a man gives to himself. As articulated by the wife of Rob Roy McGregor in Alan Sharps' screen play.
    I dont mean honor as a medal you win or as a condecoration or status in a society. I mean it as the psychological need the mind seems to have to feel itself exclusive and spotless in certain things.

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    Re: Poll: does honor have a reasonable, valid basis

    I too wasn't discussing medals etc but a person's own integrity.

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    Re: Poll: does honor have a reasonable, valid basis

    Yeah, I still don't really get what you personally mean by "honour" Raboy. So you mean one's instinctive need for being virtuous even when it means sacrifice? Integrity? What?

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    Re: Poll: does honor have a reasonable, valid basis

    Honour is immensely important, and does indeed have a reasonable basis.
    All men dream, but not equally. Those who dream at night, in the dusky recesses of their minds, wake in the day to find that it was vanity. But the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act their dreams, with open eyes, to make it possible.

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    Re: Poll: does honor have a reasonable, valid basis

    I voted yes, of course.

    But there is a question here; can honour be taken too far?

    An example that springs to mind is the cult of the duel which still persisted in 1930s Germany.

    Duelling was popular particularly amongst the SS for obvious reasons, as it was seen as the quintessence of honour.

    However, through this practice, many good quality Germans were killed in what were sometimes merely petty squabbles.

    Hitler himself thought this a terrible waste of Aryan humanity and gave strict orders that it be stopped.

    So there does seem to be a case for arguing that honour become counter-productive.


    Another point; amongst Muslims in Britain there has been a spate of honour killings.
    As you must know, this is where a parent will kill a daughter because she has fallen in love with somone of the wrong religion, wrong family etc.,

    This may not be counter-productive as it could be used to maintain racial purity.
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    Re: Poll: does honor have a reasonable, valid basis

    Quote Originally Posted by Lucifer View Post
    Honour is immensely important, and does indeed have a reasonable basis.
    what basis do you mean?im talking about honor even without a society and norms. do you believe there is a psychological mechanism that makes it necessary?

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