View Poll Results: Please state which ideology resembles your views most

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  • National-socialism

    154 29.00%
  • Zionism

    13 2.45%
  • Fascism/corporatism/solidarism

    32 6.03%
  • National-anarchism/third positionism

    29 5.46%
  • New Right

    30 5.65%
  • Paleo-conservatism

    49 9.23%
  • Neo-conservatism

    9 1.69%
  • Christian democracy

    7 1.32%
  • Libertarianism/anarchism

    52 9.79%
  • Social democracy

    23 4.33%
  • Communism

    18 3.39%
  • (left wing) ecologism

    6 1.13%
  • Other

    94 17.70%
  • I'm not very interested in politics. I don't have any ideology.

    15 2.82%
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    I could not pick any of the alternatives easy. Politically I am a nationaldemocrat wich puts me in the position close to national/socialconservatism (Close to paleoconservatism I guess) with sympathies for corporatist reforms. I am also an ethnopluralist wich puts me in the same spectre as New Right, though from my view, ethnopluralism has for me been the same as just nationalism.

    I beleve that ideology and strategy must be looked at from at pragmatic view. Maybe today nationalanarchism sound rather funny and out of realistic context. But in maybe 100 years such a kind of nationalist stance may be the only alternative to preserve and defend nordic/germanic heritage againt multiculture and globalism. Or maybe fascism will be the only future choice. From my view european traditions of freedom, civil rights, traditional values, moral order and "folkish" democracy should be defended, just as the monarchy. Europe and our germanic heritage is not just some small parts of a little bit here and there i history, but a livning heritage of both ancient, trancendent and more modern values of civilisation. I don´t see it like tradition/heritage/ancient VS modernity/civilisation, but nationalisms greatest goal is the create a synthezis of both ancient and modern: Not reactionairy or futurist but both. A harmony of mans both faustic and cultural nature. Maybe this would be expressed by Guilliame Fayes concept of "archeo-futurism", but I differ here on the point that I, in difference from most New Rightists, are nationalist and don´t see any problem with the nationstate or a nation organized under a state (nationalism simply). The nationstate is not the problem and don´t se the more logic in "communitarian-imperial Europe". The problem is modernism, globalism and multiculture. The nationstate is not perfect and several nationstates should be reformed but not abolished.

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    I choose other as i am a Nationalist meaning that i can take any aspect of any political ideology wich benefits me and my Nation, Choosing a certain ideology can only limit you in finding ways to improve your Nation.

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    I AM interested in politics, but have no ideology. I typed some lines what I stand for:

    I am in favour of a strong national-democratic and authoritaire governed state. I distrust the idea of an entirely state controlled economy, in my opinion business should be enabled freely, only vital companies dealing with resources like water or energy should be controlled by authorities. Neither foreign companies may be controlled by Germans, nor may German corporations be controlled by foreigners. No free trade of stocks.
    Domestic policy must pursue the benefit and welfare of German people, foreigners of non-European origins (exceptions for colonials) are to be repatriated to the countries they came from. This includes mixed couples and their offsprings. Strict restrictions for immi- and emigration. Those coming here must adopt to culture and customs. Germans coming from overseas are allowed to settle here, for those e.g. coming from America special language and integration courses are obligatory. I am in favour of a strict law and order policy to crack down crime. Crimes like murder, manslaughter and rape will be punished with the death penalty, furthermore drug and sex-slave trafficking als can be punished with capital punishment. Islam and Judaism will be outlawed like the practicing of all other satanist sects, Christianity is to be restricted. Freemasonry will be outlawed for once and all times, same goes for liberalism, socialism and communism and other anti-patriotic movements. Noone in favour of one ore more of these ideologies may leave Germany, they are to be sent into a work camp.There they learn to live a regular life, discipline, industriousness, order and cleanliness are taught. After work they are taught how to shower, brush teethe and the use of monthly hygienic items. This is the way to make responsible citizens out of sloppy liberals.
    Education is crucial, that's why schools and universities must teach toppics that are beneficial to a healthy society. Anti patriotic re-education must be a subject in order to prevent this pestilence to come back, in a healthy society the benefits stand plain to see, so noone must fear to mention how e.g. liberalism works and what it did to European societies. Those wanting to found a family will be granted any support they need to maintain a healthy family.
    There are several regions within Germany, any region pursues the specific regional heritage along with the standard German culture, this means eg. the Swabian/Alamanni language/dialect and culture is taught in Swabia, Saxon language and culture in Saxony etc.pp. Ideally all Germans live in Germany, his means Austria is free to join a free and sovereign German state, same goes for Swiss-Germany, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg and Low Germany, if they do not want to join fully a federation would be favourable. Furthermore strong links are to be established with Germans living in foreign lands like Alsatians and Lorrainers. A crack up of France is unlikely, but at least these regions should be autonomous. Should Belarus and Ukraine agree to hand over former Polish territories back, by granting economic benfits for example, I am sure former German territories under Polish occupation will be handed over to Germany.
    Foreign policy includes a pan-Germanic agenda as well as an active participation in an Europe of sovereign fatherlands. This cooperation is needed to fight $ imperialism and other foreign threats.
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    There is no option for socialism so I voted communism. However, I support the model similar to the DDR, i.e. nationalistic tendencies. Socialist economy, controlled immigration and emigration, national pride, anti-war approach.

    P.S. I wonder who the other communist here is. :p

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bärin View Post
    There is no option for socialism so I voted communism. However, I support the model similar to the DDR, i.e. nationalistic tendencies. Socialist economy, controlled immigration and emigration, national pride, anti-war approach.

    P.S. I wonder who the other communist here is. :p
    I was surprised too not to see plain , good old fashioned , socialism there.

    In the main I swing to the left of Marxism because of my reservations about the power conceded to State ruling elites. I accept the need for a vanguard structure/movement/party, due to the world hostility to the switch to a socialist model ( via revolution , more later), but think that there is a real danger of the vanguard becoming the same as what we hoped to escape by making the switch in the first place. I agree with Rudolph Rocker when he said " Socialism will be free or it will not be at all."
    The dangers of a Stalinist type regime were well known and expressed by many great socialist thinkers ( Bakunin , Rosa Luxemberg amongst others ) long before the revolution in Russia.

    In stark contrast to socialism via revolution are the remarkable goings on in Venezuela. The change to a socialist system there , Chavezs ultimate and stated goal , is taking a very original/refreshing path. His use of direct democracy has scared the pants off the western democracies and is giving grassroots organisations there constitutional protection. Even the indigenous indians , forgotten and abused for over two centuries since the Jesuit priests left , have gained real and consitutionally protected rights concerning land ownership/preservation , governmental representation , etc

    Another refreshing difference is that the Chavez government does not enjoy the support of all Left Wing (?) factions/organisations. He has no supporters in the Venezuelan Communist Party and the biggest/oldest trades unions ( the " yellow unions " as Chavez has aptly relabelled them ) are also in the opposite camp. Champagne socialists , as I know from personal experience and no little study , are too often found to be at the head of the trade union movements. Self servers and managerial apologists. He is wise in giving them shove , imo.

    Anyone who has a serious interest in socialism, or democracy for that matter , should make themselves familiar with what is happening in Venezuela, imho.

    It is a very fragile situation and may not last too long so now is the best time to study it. Most people in the West will only hear about it when the Western democracies have had enough of the meaningful democracy on display there and give their reasons to destroy it. So what most people in the west will see is a total misrepresentation of what has, and what is going on there .

    It is a nationalist and a socialist movement . And I agree with you that the best is brought out in both socialism and nationalism ( I don't see any conflict ) when the two combine. Throw in a democratic political culture and I think there is something strong to work with in the 21st Century Socialism as proclaimed by Mr Chavez and Co.

    If you , or anyone else here is interested they have their own site at......

    www.venezuelanalysis.com

    ......... there are interesting articles on communal regeneration , co-operatives , Health and education initiatives etc as well as articles on how the people and the army interact and socialize/participate. It is fascinating and inventive stuff.

    In the fight to stop the New World Order of Neoliberalism as defined in Washington , it is much more than a struggle between socialist and capitalist , it is a struggle for the nationalist against the Corporations and Multinationals of the world who have made their bid for control and domination over national sovereignty. Iraq is the glaring example and any nationalist worth his salt should be able to spot the difference between a insurgent and a freedom fighter, imo.
    Venezuelan nationalists , or the vast majority of them , have a song in their hearts today , I wonder how many nationalists in the West can say the same thing and that's food for thought.
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    I consider myself NS. I think it is the best system for Germanic Preservation.
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    I see no reason to put myself in a box ideologically, and quite frankly no ideology in its pure form / the form majority practices it appeals to me. I also believe that the most dogmatic ideologies have the tendendy to turn against themselves and won't eventually be able to match the needs of a currently changing society.

    Despite all this I of course can't say that my world view isn't in any way effected by any ideologies, as all individual thoughts always mirror the surroundings you live in, and you always accept certain ideas and concepts through introduction by the outside world and the different parties working in it, one way or another.

    Acknowledging this I'd say my world view has been affected the most by thinkers such as the Strasser brothers, Pentti Linkola and various thinkers of the European New Right. My life philosophy could be described as a mishmash of ecologically aware ethnically oriented socialism and positive eugenics. The preservation and bettering of the various European ethnicities, the protection of the environment, and quaranteeing equal chances for everyone to make something of themselves and eventually diluting the remains of the artificial social classes caused by capitalism and replacing them with natural classes based on the worth of the individual are the things I strife for.

    As an ethnonationalist my number one concern at the moment of course is the preservation and blossoming of the Finnic and other various ethnicities of the Northern side of Europe, and everything else including the way this goal is achieved is completely irrelevant. I personally believe there is more than one succesful way to secure our peoples existance and well-being, and whatever works best at the time ought to be used.

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    (Classic) liberalism. I cannot understand how people calling themselves "pro-Germanic" or "Germanic preservationists" can support anti-Germanic, oppressive, anti-freedom, totalitarian ideologies like National Socialism and Communism. In addition, National Socialists euthanized the handicapped. They are an antithesis of the old Germanic values. They are the most anti-Germanic ideologies one could conceive.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dagna View Post
    (Classic) liberalism. I cannot understand how people calling themselves "pro-Germanic" or "Germanic preservationists" can support anti-Germanic, oppressive, anti-freedom, totalitarian ideologies like National Socialism and Communism. They are an antithesis of the old Germanic values. They are the most anti-Germanic ideologies one could conceive.
    Both these regimes were nationalist in Germany and did more for German nationalism than your "classic liberalism" which destroys the German ethnos and race.

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    I chose 'other' because my political ideology is a mix of libertarianism, national socialism, paleo-conservatism, and isolationism.
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