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    Post Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: Manifesto Of National Futurism

    Quote Originally Posted by prussian_au
    what I don't get is the mention of a proletarian aristocracy, sounds like an oxy-moron to me unless of course you mean it in the sense of the race based class being the working elite in this new model system
    The notion of a proletarian aristocracy is not an oxymoron when one views proletarianism in light of the gigantic columns that titans erect to commemorate their legacy. The National Futurist idea of the Worker is not one that invites comparisons with socialist realism. Rather, it denotes an absolute value in and of itself. Private enterprise shall not be abolished as it provides a stimulus for growth, both on a personal and collective level. Of course, commercial enterprises will be severely limited in their access to the populace, meaning that they will not be able to indiscriminately cater products that are of no intrinsic value. There are no class differences in the reborn society. As the masses themselves are the epitomical manifestation of the archetype of the Race, it is evident that the clarity with which they perceive themselves is nothing but the tacit acknowledgement of their own status within the ever-turning wheel of the divine seasons. Hence, class is race - the will to build is within the symbolic soul of nature's creators.

    Respect for old people will be restricted since they were the ones that created the current mess. The future can only be glimpsed in the fierce and glaring eyes of the young radicals, unleashed by the Party's civilizing cadres to mercilessly punish the guilty. A lot of dirty old men will be ripped from their wheelchairs and thrown out into the open where the young wolves of the Party can rip them apart. Death to death itself!

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    Post AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: Manifesto Of National Futurism

    Quote Originally Posted by ogenoct
    The notion of a proletarian aristocracy is not an oxymoron when one views proletarianism in light of the gigantic columns that titans erect to commemorate their legacy. The National Futurist idea of the Worker is not one that invites comparisons with socialist realism. Rather, it denotes an absolute value in and of itself. Private enterprise shall not be abolished as it provides a stimulus for growth, both on a personal and collective level. Of course, commercial enterprises will be severely limited in their access to the populace, meaning that they will not be able to indiscriminately cater products that are of no intrinsic value. There are no class differences in the reborn society. As the masses themselves are the epitomical manifestation of the archetype of the Race, it is evident that the clarity with which they perceive themselves is nothing but the tacit acknowledgement of their own status within the ever-turning wheel of the divine seasons. Hence, class is race - the will to build is within the symbolic soul of nature's creators.
    .......ok thank you for outlining that, but I do believe that even in a society that politically theorises that there are no class boundaries there in fact is on some level or another, as equality is not universal in reality but only in theory.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ogenoct
    Respect for old people will be restricted since they were the ones that created the current mess. The future can only be glimpsed in the fierce and glaring eyes of the young radicals, unleashed by the Party's civilizing cadres to mercilessly punish the guilty. A lot of dirty old men will be ripped from their wheelchairs and thrown out into the open where the young wolves of the Party can rip them apart. Death to death itself!

    Constantin
    .......not such a good idea considering we have a rise in the aging population, with such actions from a young emerging political movement I don't believe you will last very long in the International Community with actions like this.
    "Let your love towards life, be love towards your highest hope:
    and let your highest hope be the highest idea of life."
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    Post Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: Manifesto Of National Futurism

    Quote Originally Posted by prussian_au
    .......ok thank you for outlining that, but I do believe that even in a society that politically theorises that there are no class boundaries there in fact is on some level or another, as equality is not universal in reality but only in theory.
    Equality is indeed only valid in theory, but equal opportunity to rule and serve is not. The updated slogan thus reads: "Equality, Freedom, Resistance!" Egalitarian concepts are to be revised to reflect the growing demand for justice that serves the majority in doses that do not overexert the individual sense of self-worth. Where is the firepower but in the collective awareness that one's neighbor is one's brother. The value lies in genetic and class-based social ethics, topped with the realization that the glow in one's eyes always will match the flow of another's pen.

    Quote Originally Posted by prussian_au
    .......not such a good idea considering we have a rise in the aging population, with such actions from a young emerging political movement I don't believe you will last very long in the International Community with actions like this.
    A weary warrior might comment thus, but - alas! - the purported depths are shallow, and his commentaries are not flexed with the muscles of wit and dare. Rather, they are subdued by all the self-proclaimed "superior" (in reality disillusioned, with one foot in the grave) experience-gatherers. One must not be surprised at the amount of energy that can be harnessed by earnest seekers of the mytho-poetic Fountain of Youth when a nation wants to rejuvenate itself. The ageing vultures whine and pick the bones of the ones that a long time ago fell bravely, but the Party's new elite will show the tired and wrinkled bags of disease a never-before trodden path that has no place for the hogs' and hags' wining, dining and whining.

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    Post AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: Manifesto Of National Futurism

    Quote Originally Posted by ogenoct
    Equality is indeed only valid in theory, but equal opportunity to rule and serve is not. The updated slogan thus reads: "Equality, Freedom, Resistance!" Egalitarian concepts are to be revised to reflect the growing demand for justice that serves the majority in doses that do not overexert the individual sense of self-worth. Where is the firepower but in the collective awareness that one's neighbor is one's brother. The value lies in genetic and class-based social ethics, topped with the realization that the glow in one's eyes always will match the flow of another's pen.
    .......indeed equality based on political grounds, somewhat something that gives an adhesive sense to forging the political will upon the collective.
    Quote Originally Posted by ogenoct
    A weary warrior might comment thus, but - alas! - the purported depths are shallow, and his commentaries are not flexed with the muscles of wit and dare. Rather, they are subdued by all the self-proclaimed "superior" (in reality disillusioned, with one foot in the grave) experience-gatherers. One must not be surprised at the amount of energy that can be harnessed by earnest seekers of the mytho-poetic Fountain of Youth when a nation wants to rejuvenate itself. The ageing vultures whine and pick the bones of the ones that a long time ago fell bravely, but the Party's new elite will show the tired and wrinkled bags of disease a never-before trodden path that has no place for the hogs' and hags' wining, dining and whining.

    Constantin
    .......interesting not the way I would personally view the elderly as a whole (of course some are indeed as you describe but not representative as a whole)but interesting nevertheless.
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    Post Re: Manifesto Of National Futurism

    Without the people's values, endurance and strength, the party is all but nothing. National Futurism respects many natural bonudaries, and natural thought, so that it can expand forth throughout not by force, that's what makes it anti-imperialistic.

    I'm not sure about this whole idea of Technocratism though, as putting Technology over Human Will is against foundation and nature.

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    Post Re: Manifesto Of National Futurism

    Quote Originally Posted by Vlad Cletus
    I'm not sure about this whole idea of Technocratism though, as putting Technology over Human Will is against foundation and nature.
    Man is part of nature. Man is superior to nature. Man rules nature. Man destroys nature at will. Man is able to regulate nature. Nature has to bow down before the divinity of the God Race. The Nordic principle of the forestal cradle will be abolished. The Mines of Magnitude will be empty when the God Race is finished working inside of them. New areas will be conquered and exploited. Nature is merely the stage where the Great Play can be performed, with the divine tunes of the always present golden choir edging on the glorious task of cyclical destruction and construction. What is permanent in the blood stays permanent on the material plane. The will to crush equals the desire to erect. The Nordic twin principle of endless suffering and unlimited endurance is to be the beacon for the ones that victimize themselves for the sake of the shielding influence of the multitudes. HAIL the Martyrs of Madness!

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    Question

    This whole idea of National Futurism does sound interesting.

    What is the view of National Futurism in regards to Racial (or White) Nationalism?


    And also what is view of National Futurism in relation to National Anarchism?

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    If my memory serves me correctly, a lot of N-As a few years ago were ridiculing Hofmeister. National Futurism doesn't seem to have much to say about the role (if any) of the State, N-As oppose it.

    It seems to advocate a uniform eurasian order, something N-As would oppose in favour of small mono-ethnic communities. I'm still learning about N-A, but N-Futurism is not my cup of tea, to use an English expression. The two ideas don't seem to have much in common. N-Futurism seems to have a lot more in common with National Bolshevism.

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