View Poll Results: what is the ideal age between men and women?

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  • women should be older

    35 14.64%
  • men should be 0-5 years older

    124 51.88%
  • men should be 5-10 years older

    74 30.96%
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Thread: Why Women Should Marry Young and Why They Should Marry Mature Men

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigurd View Post
    I am not going to answer any of your questions, because I'm not the one taking this to the personal. My answer was general - the "you" and "the man" was not directly nor indirectly aimed at yours and Bärin's actual arrangement - that is as little business of mine as my own daily arrangement is a business of yours. I questioned her views, not your actual arrangement.

    I will however say that I have some work experience and am in the process of building up a small business of my own, if you really care to know. Much of which is also done by online contacts.
    Her views are clear, they're the normal and healthy views of a young woman who wants the best for herself. Most students your age wouldn't able to feed a family if mommy and daddy stopped financing them, that's how it is. Take away their support and they will barely be able to pay the rent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ossi View Post
    Her views are clear, they're the normal and healthy views of a young woman who wants the best for herself. Most students your age wouldn't able to feed a family if mommy and daddy stopped financing them, that's how it is. Take away their support and they will barely be able to pay the rent.
    Sure, and I understand and support them to some extent. I only desired clarification on some aspects of her post which I felt needed expanding upon to allow a most thorough discussion and allow her views to be brought out in detail. The parts which I didn't feel needed expanding upon I consequently didn't ask about.

    Yes, it is a fact that most students are incapable of financially supporting a family --- the question I thus asked back was in terms of a hypothetical (well, realistic but uncommon) student who was able.

    Also, I think she is well capable of laying out her own ideas --- and if I consider her views clear enough, then I will not ask her to expand. If I don't I will ask her to expand ... and if she is willing to expand upon it she will, and if not then she won't.

    Other than that, I agree wholeheartedly with what you and Bärin have said upon the matter. My intention was only to ask: If students are considered uncapable of supporting a family at large --- what if they are actually able to: Does it change the situation?
    -In kalte Schatten versunken... /Germaniens Volk erstarrt / Gefroren von Lügen / In denen die Welt verharrt-
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    -Auch ich verspüre Demut / Vor dem alten Geiste der Ahnen / Wird es mir vergönnt sein / Gen Walhalla aufzufahren?-

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    When I see couples with a big age difference, if the man is older I can't help thinking he goes out with her for the sex and she goes out with him for the money. If the woman is older, it's even more revolting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by White Africa View Post
    When I see couples with a big age difference, if the man is older I can't help thinking he goes out with her for the sex and she goes out with him for the money. If the woman is older, it's even more revolting.
    perhaps this is some biological assurance of pairing a man who can support a family with a woman who will be fertile for many years?

    Doesn't sound that disgusting to me, I figure, let people make their own choices in life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by White Africa View Post
    When I see couples with a big age difference, if the man is older I can't help thinking he goes out with her for the sex and she goes out with him for the money. If the woman is older, it's even more revolting.
    ... We've got that subject on an other forum as well (age differences in partnership). While I think that what you say is true of some relationships. I don't think that's true for all. On the other forum we became rather suspicious why so many women 30+ were so opposed between partnerships between relationships (let's say guy 45 girl 25) differing in age. Me and a couple of others suspect that their fear of competition is actually the driving factor for their views. You see some (aging) women maybe afraid that their partner/husband becomes bored or pissed with them and leaves them for a +10 years younger woman.

    In my view marriage is about starting a family. To me that means that the woman needs to be ready to bear and rear children and the man needs to be ready and willing to sustain a family and be its head. So naturally some age difference may occur.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Horagalles View Post
    In my view marriage is about starting a family. To me that means that the woman needs to be ready to bear and rear children and the man needs to be ready and willing to sustain a family and be its head. So naturally some age difference may occur.
    You'll note it seems quite prevalent in many ancient societies that older men would marry younger women? As I suggested, it is possible that this is some form of biological insurance for successfully raising families.
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    I think it is personal preference if a person prefers an older or younger partner. I chose older women because I find older women attractive, well into their 30s and 40s, and I have always felt that way towards older women ("milfs" as they are called) since I first started getting a jolly out of women. I do not look down on older men who prefer younger women, even if the age difference is great, because they are doing it for their own reasons, and you should not judge them for that. If a man spent many of his 20s and 30s trying to get rich and "make it", and he worked his butt off for so many years, is it not his right to go for a younger woman, even if people think he is merely going for a trophy girl? So what, let the guy have some fun, he deserves it after all.....that's why people work hard... to make lots of money.

    So that they can get the woman they want. Quit judging, it's not like he's going for another man, or a child.

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    Without even mentioning marriage and just talk about normal relationship I really don't think that "Men should be older fur such reasons" I just prefer my girlfriends younger, matter of preference I guess. I was with older girlfriends years ago and never really liked it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by White Africa View Post
    When I see couples with a big age difference, if the man is older I can't help thinking he goes out with her for the sex and she goes out with him for the money. If the woman is older, it's even more revolting.
    Ya right... as if teenage boys who go out with their attractive female schoolmates do it for the deep profound love they hold for them. Nothing to do with sex at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ossi View Post
    Ya right... as if teenage boys who go out with their attractive female schoolmates do it for the deep profound love they hold for them. Nothing to do with sex at all.
    LOL, you DID save my day with that one....

    Nonetheless, this is not about teenage boys and teenage girls, this is about men and women. Marriage is not permitted under 18 in most Germanic countries, usually 16 at best when they parents agree. And around the time they hit approx. 20 they're usually over that "OMFGZ, a pair of pants I need to get into!" phase, and those who aren't probably will never be.
    -In kalte Schatten versunken... /Germaniens Volk erstarrt / Gefroren von Lügen / In denen die Welt verharrt-
    -Die alte Seele trauernd und verlassen / Verblassend in einer erklärbaren Welt / Schwebend in einem Dunst der Wehmut / Ein Schrei der nur unmerklich gellt-
    -Auch ich verspüre Demut / Vor dem alten Geiste der Ahnen / Wird es mir vergönnt sein / Gen Walhalla aufzufahren?-

    (Heimdalls Wacht, In kalte Schatten versunken, stanzas 4-6)

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