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  • If we do things the correct way now, we will achieve self-determination before any apocalyptic breakdown

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  • If we do things the correct way now, we might achieve self-determination before any apocalyptic breakdown, and even if the breakdown occurs, we still have a chance at self-determination (made possible only because we did things correctly before the breakdown)

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  • Even if we do things incorrectly now, we still can achieve self-determination after the inevitable apocalyptic breakdown

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  • If an apocalyptic breakdown does occur, we will never achieve self-determination

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  • There is nothing that we can possibly do now to achieve self-determination prior to an apocalyptic breakdown, but if we do things the correct way both before and after the breakdown, we can achieve self-determination after the breakdown

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  • There is nothing that we can possibly do to ever achieve self-determination

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Thread: What does the future hold?

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    we are being outcompeted because of a very trivial flaw: we are too nice to win
    It won't seem trivial when we are extinct.

    Le Pen and Haider are both pebbles in the pond. Europe is still almost entirely left-wing, pro-immigrant, anti-racist, etc. I don't see things getting any better in the future, here or there. Enoch Powell and George Wallace couldn't hold back the wave in the 60's when people were still largely sympathetic to racism in various forms; what makes you think that Le Pen and Haider can do anything now, with their small entourages?

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    I am with Fionn on this one regarding Europe. Haider and Le Pen and other Right-Wing forces are too weak and oppressed in every move they make to safeguard a future for their people, besides they do not even admit a Racial component to their mild form of Nationalism which they espouse.

    The future does look grim, and it is not some minority that is suffering through persecution but a majority of Europeans that are being dispossessed of their Lands, their States, and their Societies by hordes of non-European Immigrants of both past, and present, not to mention the future, and by all those traitors in power that ascribe to our ruin. Europe is fast becoming a Political Correct Police State where you cannot express a divergent opinion unless you want to remain unpersecuted. The future does look grim, hopefully the persecution might help some people recognise the evils of modern Europe.

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    World War Three will break out when American empire collapses


    The United States did not stay on top of the world for too long. Bipolar times are coming again. The world will be different in the future, and everyone understands it already today. What kind of the world will it be? What centers of power will the new world have? What price do we have to pay for this change? Inna Novikova, Pravda.Ru editor-in-chief asked these questions to Leonid Krutakov, Russian political scientist, journalist, analyst, associate professor of the Financial University under the Government of the Russian Federation.



    "The world has been getting bipolar, and the USA has been losing its role of the global supremacist state. However, an alternative to today's world order has not been formed yet. What forms can it take and how can this change happen?"


    "Indeed, we are actually entering the bipolar period again. There are interests of one group of countries and there are interests of another group of countries. During the previous bipolar era, it was the USSR that was acting as the locomotive. These days, it is obvious that China will take the role of the USSR instead. This peculiarity has its own pluses and minuses for Russia.

    "Not too long ago, Russia had found itself within the Washington Consensus, where we were not even third class passengers, but rather firemen, whose role was to throw coal into the oven of the big ship.

    "It is clear that China's role and position is closer to Russia unlike to the role of theWest. Russia had been trying to open that door to the West, but the West never let us enter. Russia eventually turned its back on that door to see a giant on the other side. This giant is China, and this giant told us that it was ready to work with us.

    "We are creating a new format. We develop political cooperation, we hold joint military drills, we conduct economic cooperation, we build pipelines together. There is a new project for the development of the Arctic, where China and India will be key stakeholders, because the Northern Sea Route will be used targeting only Asian markets.

    "The economic and political consolidation of Eurasia as a continent is underway. In the past, Eurasia was divided into two different markets - Europe and Asia. Russia was something like a black hole, the Trans-Siberian Railway was hardly ever used. These days, we can eyewitness the formation of joint Eurasia.

    "For China and Eurasia, Europe is a small peninsula, not the center of the world. China is a 1.5-billion-strong nation, while Europe has a population of 500 million, which is only a third of the population of China. India is a 1.3 billion-strong country. The population of the Earth is seven billion. If we combine China, India and Indochina, we will have a half of the population of the planet.

    "If you look at the map of China's "One Belt - One Road" initiative, you will see several ways there. There is a ground way, a way through the Suez Canal, and the Northern Sea Route was also included in this project. We can see all of Eurasia integrating, and the process is taking place under new conditions.

    "All of this comes as a catastrophe for the island civilization of the Anglo-Saxons, who cannot help but wonder what their role will be in all that. They still control the sea and supplies by sea, they still set the rules. What if other countries take over? What will be the point of the Sixth Fleet in the Persian Gulf then?

    "The United States is witnessing a decline of the American empire now. Therefore, they start yelling more, they threaten more, they intimidate others more, but they do all that against the background of the growing influence of China and Russia."



    "Well, it has always been the same. This is natural. Some countries become great powers, but empires rise and fall."


    "Of course, but for those who rise, this is a prospect, and for those who fall - this is a disaster. Therefore, they will resist and fight. They still have enough force, they can still control a lot. However, I have a feeling of a serious threat, a global cataclysm looming. Those who have been cornered, they can attack to kill in order to survive."




    "Unfortunately, you are not the first to say this, although we would like to hope that reason will prevail. After all, it is very true that after the Third World War, the next war will be fought with batons and sticks."


    "This is true, but for the elite, the main issue is not even money. They want domination and power. If in order to preserve their power, they will have to exterminate a half of the population of the Earth, they will go for it, without a second thought."



    "Even if they survive, how are they going to live amid total destruction afterwards?"



    "I think they have their bunkers ready. The key issue here is not about the loss of money, because power converts into money, and money converts into power. Yet, it is power that comes first, but not money. Money is a tool to use power. This is their standpoint."



    Pravada - World War Three will break out when American empire collapses 30 Jul 2019.



    Paul Craig Roberts talks a lot about WW III.


    Maybe now we'll realize the cost of universalism, globalism and why we should have left the undeveloped world undeveloped for Nature to take care of because it's clear we can't.

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    World War Three will break out when American empire collapses
    Empires rise and fall. I don't know how history will judge the American one but there will be a lot of fallout when it goes down, that much is certain.

    Still, I'm surprised we've come this far TBQH. The threat of nuclear war was very grave at one time and seemed to be almost constant when I was growing up. It occurred to me not to save anything for the future because I didn't expect to still be around in 2019, but I'm quite glad I did now

    These things are almost impossible to predict. I was going through some old threads on here the other evening and the imminent collapse of the USA was being predicted 15 years ago.

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