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    Post Re: Why we are losing

    Ahem, I would argue that Germany is on top of the list of European countries in a state of advanced decadence and degeneracy.
    IMO the most degenerate countries are Sweden, Germany, and the Netherlands. The Netherlands has a long tradition of tolerance that goes back centuries. Germans still live today in the shadow of Adolf Hitler. Sweden, however, is a mystery. What happened there? Why are the Swedes such ultra-leftists on the race issue? Gunnar Myrdal is a typical example.
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    And America is the worst of all offenders, they glorify miniorities, black culture, like music and clothes.
    This has been overexaggerated. There is crap like that in the United States but it only appeals to a rather small percentage of the white population. The truth of the matter is that there is far less popular acceptance of multiculturalism in the United States than is generally the case in other countries. Dan Dare has posted an article that addresses this on The Phora.

    "Far from embracing multiculturalism, America is having a backlash against it. The creed may thrive in the faculties but it is rapidly waning in the rest of the country (where it arguably never waxed). Whenever Americans have been given the choice between promoting multiculturalism and protecting America's common identity, they have nearly always opted for the latter. Plenty of states—including California and Massachusetts—have passed initiatives banning bilingual education.

    This does not mean that America will return to the WASPish culture that Churchill addressed at Fulton. The country's growing number of Roman Catholics dislike being told that Protestantism is the source of the country's economic dynamism. And the rapidly expanding assortment of non-Anglos hate any hint that they are less than fully American. But many scholars are beginning to recognise that America owes a great deal of its identity to its Anglo-Protestant roots. And many less cerebral folk have noted that their most stalwart allies in the war on terrorism are all drawn from Churchill's English-speaking peoples. The special relationship still has a lot of life left in it."

    http://www.thephora.org/forum/showthread.php?t=5657
    And this is imbred in the youth, they grow up wanting to be a negro or a latino. They glorfy the notion of Caucasian women with Negro men.
    This is also false. See Goldberg's book about bias in the American media. It deals with this very issue. The truth is that blacks and whites in the United States watch different television programs. The truth is that America is not much more integrated than it was forty years ago, as white Americans tend to self-segregate themselves away from such areas.
    America is a lost cause.
    Kansas or Nebraska is a far healthier place to live for white people than Sweden. Kansas and Nebraska also have positive white birthrates, as does the State of Utah.
    We have become feminine, the White Western man, this is why sometimes I shun our people, and hate our loyalty to our people and look for other alliances.
    This is also false. Take George W. Bush for example. Bush likes to be seen dressed in blue jeans clearing brush on his ranch. He talks about hunting down terrorists, to use his own words. He says you are either with us or you are with the terrorists. What is "extremism" in Europe is "mainstream" in America.
    In a religion like Islam if a muslim female marries a non-muslim male she will probably be killed or kicked out of her family. We need these types of morals and strict guidelines. We cant be these "nice" people, letting bygones be bygones.
    You should study the sociological literature that has been done on this issue. The truth is that miscegenation really still sickens most white Americans. Racial attitudes are far stronger in the United States than they are in many other countries. That makes sense. After all, America has a longer tradition of racialism than any other European country.
    We need to start a sort of religion, in which the White man, follows this, and the rules within it, in a unified matter. It wont happen for a while, we need an arrival of a great prophet, for this to happen, a man that sees this, and creates a system for white preservation.
    I don't think we need a new religion. We don't need anything new at all. That is the problem. American racialists have been experimenting with all these foreign ideologies that don't have any appeal to Americans instead of reviving their own racialist tradition.
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    "There are no principles; there are only events. There is no good and bad, there are only circumstances. The superior man espouses events and circumstances in order to guide them. If there were principles and fixed laws, nations would not change them as we change our shirts and a man can not be expected to be wiser than an entire nation."
    —Honoré de Balzac

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    Post Re: Why we are losing

    Quote Originally Posted by FadeTheButcher
    IMO the most degenerate countries are Sweden, Germany, and the Netherlands. The Netherlands has a long tradition of tolerance that goes back centuries. Germans still live today in the shadow of Adolf Hitler. Sweden, however, is a mystery. What happened there? Why are the Swedes such ultra-leftists on the race issue? Gunnar Myrdal is a typical example.
    I've spoken to finnish and norwegian people, they seem to think swedes are faggots, no offence to those swedes who aren't liberal. For a country that's seen as the reservoir of the Nordic race they certaintly need to improve their social beleifs.

    In Germany, I beleive the shadow of Hitler affects mostly the politicians who do anything to not have anyone make a comparison between them and Hitler, the regular german is still strongly nationalistic on average.

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    I think the problem will have to be addressed differently for those living in Europe than those in Colonial lands(i.e. Australia, United States, Canada).

    Some of you might laugh at this, but within my own city there are several social organizations who's members are of white racial European stock, which meet at private clubs. They have no racially provocative name, no Third Reich imagery, yet they manage to have an all white mainly Germanic membership.

    A privately funded organization is the best way for educated, family oriented folks to get together. I also think any successful political force representing an ethnic group, coming from a Germanic or other European folk today, would have to come from a non-threating atmosphere like this. If there's one white European group in the US who's done a good job of maintaining social organizations centered on their heritage it would have to be the Irish. Germanics should try their best to emulate this success, but it's difficult as Germanic pride is often looked upon suspiciously.

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    Post Re: Why we are losing

    Quote Originally Posted by Krampus
    I think the problem will have to be addressed differently for those living in Europe than those in Colonial lands(i.e. Australia, United States, Canada).

    Some of you might laugh at this, but within my own city there are several social organizations who's members are of white racial European stock, which meet at private clubs. They have no racially provocative name, no Third Reich imagery, yet they manage to have an all white mainly Germanic membership.

    A privately funded organization is the best way for educated, family oriented folks to get together. I also think any successful political force representing an ethnic group, coming from a Germanic or other European folk today, would have to come from a non-threating atmosphere like this. If there's one white European group in the US who's done a good job of maintaining social organizations centered on their heritage it would have to be the Irish. Germanics should try their best to emulate this success, but it's difficult as Germanic pride is often looked upon suspiciously.
    small social clubs serve the need of the particular people involved in the club only, when we speak in terms of the nation, we have to talk federal politics. A organization that started small must always become larger to influence more people, untill ultimately trying out the politics scene, this can be accomplished no doubt about it, but the people must show no ties to hitler or nazism, something new has to be conjured up, sort of a nazism but of our own time, catering to the needs of today, and most importantly made for the politics of today.

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    Losing? Look at what is happening for the first time in Holland and Germany. Multiculturalism is being challenged and it is being done so loudly and in public. The charge has been made that multiculturalism is a failure, won't work and immigrants should learn the host county's culture. We even have heard this cry all the way over here in America, even filtered, as it is, by our media.

    On another issue, we need the Brown Shirts. Nobody gets anywhere without muscle in the street. But, Brown Shirts never were leaders or thinkers. It is unfortunate that THEY have become the face of Preservation. Just as we cannot do without muscle, muscle will not work without direction. The Brown Shirts needed a Thule Society and they found it.

    Skadi is the closest thing to intellect in the Preservation movement (if there is a movement yet). This is why I am so opposed to the kind of creeping Stormfront dialogue which sometimes crops up here. Leave Stormfront to the Brown Shirts. We have more than enough bright people here which are more than capable of the intellectual framing of any issues related to European preservation.

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    Didn't Stribog mention the cultural aspect? Didn't he say something about movies and such in his original post?

    Well, I have a screen play in my head. It has a better plot than anything presented commercially in a long, long time. It is a love story but involves the 3rd Reich, the "Kriegslauf" and still-supressed German high technology (surprisingly shocking technology). This tale was told to me---I am no literary writer.

    So, I need someone who can translated facts as they were given to me into emotions which are applicable to the big screen. Even without literary input, the story makes me cry. Does anyone out there in cyberland have any background or experience at this sort of thing? Please respond.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Solar Wolff
    Didn't Stribog mention the cultural aspect? Didn't he say something about movies and such in his original post?

    Well, I have a screen play in my head. It has a better plot than anything presented commercially in a long, long time. It is a love story but involves the 3rd Reich, the "Kriegslauf" and still-supressed German high technology (surprisingly shocking technology). This tale was told to me---I am no literary writer.

    So, I need someone who can translated facts as they were given to me into emotions which are applicable to the big screen. Even without literary input, the story makes me cry. Does anyone out there in cyberland have any background or experience at this sort of thing? Please respond.
    Contact Cosmocreator. He has dabbled in the movie industry afaik.
    "slavic" languages are absolutely arteficial (Read "slawenlegende"). The "glagolica", invented by a bunch of monks, is nothing but an ancient esperanto, creating new words, definitions and alphabet out of regional slangs.

    The craddle of European Civilization comes from the North. All blond people originate from the north. So if you see a blond-blue eyed Slovene, Russian, Czech, Polak ect., you can be 100% sure that his ancient ancestors originated from "Germanics" (Germanic = Nordic).
    "slovenja" was the settelment of the Langobards = Germanics/Teutons. "Poland" of the Goths and East-Vandals ect. ect. What do "slavs" tell us about their origin?
    Some silly story that they originate from some swamps in the east and popped out of no where into history.

    So you see my dear "Gorostan" [=Triglav], you are in reality a "Germanic" indoctrinated with panslav propaganda and historic fantasy stories. ~Dr. Brandt, former TNP and Skadi member

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    Post Re: Why we are losing

    Quote Originally Posted by nordic_canadian_male
    I've spoken to finnish and norwegian people, they seem to think swedes are faggots, no offence to those swedes who aren't liberal.
    Strong words from people who have no `racialist' movement to speak of.


    Immigration in Europe is not equal to non-White immigration. For example, half of the immigration to Sweden is European. In fact, the biggest immigration group is Scandinavian.

    The total immigration from outside Europe to Sweden is 262 100 individuals (SCB 1998). This means about 3% of the total population is potentially non-White, although this percentage also includes white people from USA/Russia/Australia and temporary residence permits. Compare this to the US figure of a population consisting of 16% non-Whites (Blacks and Asians excluding Hispanics).

    It should also be noted that the majority of the non-Whites in Sweden are not from Africa but from Asia.
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    Post Re: Why we are losing

    Quote Originally Posted by Grimr
    This paragraph is in contrast to your second paragraph.
    I wanted to state that they should be racially pure gatherings and yet arn't racist against others. Not that they should be racist gatherings.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grimr
    Purity cannot be retained without hatred thus to have a gathering for pure white people that aren’t racist would be paradoxical.
    How would the media react to this ? How would non-racists act to something like this at first ? Just another skinhead rally. I mean come on, they would tear us apart. First, you must require gatherings for pure whites to preserve it and then the hatred as with the group slowly grows. Besides a lot of whites don't feel hatred towards others because of what they were raised to believe. You must not make them hate US too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grimr
    Nobody is proud to be white today, we racialists are not proud to be white because we know our race is dying through decadence and foolishness and the rest aren’t proud to be white because their Judaic masters force them to be ashamed of their race.
    Never say something that implies that we're going to rot into nothing because of ourselves. We are heading in that direction but nontheless, everyone is proud of who they are. Even if they're not racist or a racialist. Even if they bred with another race, that wouldn't mean they themselves weren't proud to be what they were. Just sometimes people get confused. Most people i know react when someone puts down another person for being white or even themselves. And they arn't, racist or a racialist.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grimr
    Skinhead rallies and things like that are good enough for now.
    Those arn't good enough now, because they make law enforcement and anti-hate groups larger and more hateful of us.

    'German boy, do not forget you are a German,' and, 'Little girl, remember you are to become a German mother.'

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