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    Why Evangelical Christians Support Israel

    by Pat Robertson


    This is a speech at the Herzliya Conference, Lauder School of Government, Diplomacy, and Strategy, December 17, 2003, in which the utmost despicable Zionist and “Christian Evangelist” Pat Robertson celebrates in front of predominant Jewish listeners “the shared heritage of Christianity and Judaism” (PatRobertson.com), his personal commitment to Israel and the Jews and argues that a Palestinian state would mean the destruction of Israel.

    We have to remind the reader that Robertson speaks of the Devil when he is mentioning Jehovah/Jahwe which he claims is the common god of Jews and Christians. That of course is a lie. Jesus Christ has stated the following about the Jehovah/Jahwe, the god of the Jews: “Ye are of your father the devil, and the lust of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own; for he is a liar, and the father of it.” (John 8:44-48; see also “Notes”: Biblical “anti-Semitism)

    Beginning of Robertson’s speech:

    One day in the late 19th Century, Queen Victoria of England reportedly asked her Prime Minister, [the Jew] Benjamin Disraeli [see “Christentum ist Judentum für Nichtjuden” on this website], this question: “Mr. Prime Minister, what evidence can you give me of the existence of God?” Disraeli thought for a moment and then replied, “The Jew, your majesty.”

    Think of it, according to Disraeli the primary evidence that God exists is the existence of the Jewish people... A people who in 586 BC were deported to Babylon, yet returned after seventy years to rebuild a nation. Who were again brutally massacred and dispersed by the Romans in 70 AD, yet after countess centuries of Diaspora, expulsions, pogroms, ghettos, and attempts at genocidal extermination, have clung to their faith, their customs-and now after some 2500 years of wandering have returned to the land promised by God to their ancestors. A new nation began in that land in 1948 named after their ancestor Jacob, whose divinely appointed name Israel means “Prince with God”. And to fulfill another ancient prophecy, God moved on the heart of Eliezer Ben-Yehuda, whose son Ehud told me that, while his father was living in Eastern Europe, he heard a voice and saw a light directing him to bring forth for the Jewish people a pure language-Hebrew-the language of the Torah and of the ancient prophets.

    Yes, the survival of the Jewish people is a miracle of God. The return of the Jewish people to the land promised to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is a miracle of God. The remarkable victories of Jewish armies against overwhelming odds in successive battles in 1948, and 1967, and 1973 are clearly miracles of God. The technological marvels of Israeli industry, the military prowess, the bounty of Israeli agriculture, the fruits and flowers and abundance of the land are a testimony to God’s watchful care over this new nation and the genius of this people.

    Yet what has happened was clearly foretold by the ancient prophet Ezekiel, who, writing at the time of the Babylonian captivity, declared this message for the Jewish people concerning latter days (Ezekiel 36:24 ff.)

    “For I will take you out of the nation; I will gather you from all the countries and bring you back to your own land... I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you... to follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws. You will live in the land I gave your forefathers; you will be my people and I will be your God. I will save you from all your uncleanness.

    “I will call for the grain and make it plentiful... I will increase the fruit of the trees and the crops of the field, so that you will no longer suffer disgrace among the nations because of famine...

    “This is what the Sovereign Jehovah says, 'On the day I cleanse you from all your sins, I will resettle your towns, and the ruins will be rebuilt. The desolate land will be cultivated instead of lying desolate in the sight of all who pass through it. They will say, "This land that was laid waste has become like the garden of Eden; the cites that were tying in ruins, desolate and destroyed, are now fortified and inhabited.'

    “Then the nations around you that remain will know that I, Jehovah, have rebuilt what was destroyed and have replanted what was desolate. I, Jehovah, have spoken, and I will do it.” Ezekiel 36:24 ff.

    Ladies and Gentleman, evangelical Christians support Israel because we believe that the words of Moses and the ancient prophets of Israel were inspired by God. We believe that the emergence of a Jewish state in the land promised by God to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob was ordained by God.

    We believe that God has a plan for this nation which He intends to be a blessing to all the nations of the earth.

    Of course, we, like all right-thinking people, support Israel because Israel is an island of democracy, an island of individual freedom, an island of the rule of law, and an island of modernity in the midst of a sea of dictatorial regimes, the suppression of individual liberty, and a fanatical religion intent on returning to the feudalism of 8th Century Arabia.

    These facts about modem day Israel are all true. But mere political rhetoric does not account for the profound devotion to Israel that exists in the hearts of tens of millions of evangelical Christians.

    You must realize that the God who spoke to Moses on Mount Sinai is our God. Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob are our spiritual Patriarchs. Jeremiah, Ezekiel, and Daniel are our prophets. King David, a man after Gods own heart, is our hero. The Holy City of Jerusalem is our spiritual capital. And the continuation of Jewish sovereignty over the Holy Land is a further bulwark to us that the God of the Bible exists and that His Word is true.

    And we should dearly take note that evangelical Christians serve a Jew that we believe was the divine Messiah of Israel, spoken of by the ancient prophets, to whom He entrusted the worldwide dissemination of His message to twelve Jewish apostles.

    It should be noted that today Christianity, with well over two billion adherents, is by far the fastest growing religion in the world. Within twenty years, that number will swell to three billion. Of these, at least six hundred million are Bible-believing evangelicals and charismatics who are ardent supporters of the nation of Israel. In twenty years, that number will reach one billion. Israel has millions of Christen friends in China, in India, in Indonesia, throughout Africa and South America, as wall as North America.

    We are with you in your struggle. We are with you as a wave of anti-Semitism is engulfing the earth. We are with you despite the pressure of the "Quartette" and the incredibly hostile resolutions of the United Nations. We are with you despite the threats and ravings of Wahabbi Jihadists, Hezbollah thugs, and Hamas assassins.

    We are with you despite oil embargos, loss of allies, and terrorist attacks on our cities.

    We evangelical Christians merely say to our Israeli friends, "Let us serve our God together by opposing the virulent poison of anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism that is rapidly engulfing the world."

    Having affirmed our support, I would humbly make two requests of our Israeli friends:
    First, please don't commit national suicide. It is very hard for your friends to support you, if you make a conscious decision to destroy yourselves. I hardly find it necessary to remind this audience of the stated objectives of Yasser Arafat, the PLO, Hamas, Hezbollah, and Islamic Jihad. Their goal is not peace, but the final destruction of the State of Israel. At no time do they, or their allies in the Muslim world, acknowledge the sovereignty of Israel over even one square inch of territory in the Middle East if a Palestinian State is created in the heart of Israel with sovereign power to deploy troops, import modern weapons-even weapons of mass destruction-and operate with full secrecy and diplomatic immunity, the ability of the State of Israel to defend itself will be fatally compromised.

    The slogan "land for peace' is a cruel chimera, The Sinai was given up. Did that bring lasting peace? No. Southern Lebanon was given up. Did that bring lasting peace? No. Instead Hezbollah rode tanks to the border of Israel shouting, “On to Jerusalem!” Now, as many as 10,000 rockets aimed at Metulia, Qiryat Shemona, and all of Northern Israel have been put in place throughout Southern Lebanon.

    Arafat was brought up at the knees of the man who yearned to finish the work of Adolf Hitler. How can any realist truly believe that this littler and his associates can become trusted partners for peace?

    I am aware of the deep feelings of many Israelis who yearn for peace. Who long to be free from the terror of the suicide bombers of the intifada. I would draw their attention to the fact that during the Cold War, the American people yearned to be free from the constant threat of a nuclear holocaust. Then, at Reykjavik, Iceland on the occasion of a summit between President Ronald Reagan of the United Sates and Premier Mikhail Gorbachev of the Soviet Union, what seemed like an incredible opportunity for peace was presented to President Reagan by Mr. Gorbachev. An offer was made for hitherto undreamed of reductions in nuclear weapons, Gorbachev's offer included everything the U.S. arms negotiations had wanted, except one thing. The condition for the Russian offer was to be the agreement by the United States to abandon the so-called “star wars” Strategic Defense Initiative.

    Mr. Reagan carefully considered the offer-then reluctantly said no. Without the Strategic Defense Initiative, there would be no deal. Gorbachev was stunned. Then both leaders, with sadness in their hearts, adjourned the meeting and departed Reykjavik.

    Once again, the world was hovering on the brink of nuclear annihilation. The American liberal press was apoplectic at Reagan's decision. But he held firm. Now we all know that he was right. The Russians could not compete with the United States in a nuclear arms race and Gorbachev knew it. The bluster was over - the threats were over - Reagan had won by standing firm. Soon freedom broke out in Poland - in Hungary - in East Germany. The Berlin Wall came down. The barbed wire fences came down. And Soviet Communism came down.

    The world is safe from super power nuclear terror. This terror is no more because one strong leader stood against public opinion against the advice of many of his own counselors and said no! May the leaders of Israel in 2004 have the courage to look the nations of the world in the eye, and when your national interests demand it - say no!

    Second, the world's Christians ask that you do not give away the treasured symbols of your spiritual patrimony.

    I read recently in the Wall Street Journal an article written by an American Jewish commentator who remarked that the Temple Mount and what is termed the “Wailing Wall” are “sacred stones and sites”, but hardly worth bloodshed.

    Just think - the place where the Patriarch Abraham took Isaac to offer him to God. The place bought by King David from Araunah where the Angel of the Lord stood with drawn sword. The place of Solomon's temple. The place of the Holy of Holies, The place where Jesus Christ walked and taught The very spiritual center of the Jewish worship of the one true God - nothing but a pile of sacred stones-unworthy of sacrifice? What an incredible assertion!

    Ladies and gentlemen, make no mistake, the entire world is being convulsed by a religious struggle. The fight is not about money or territory; it is not about poverty versus wealth; it is not about ancient customs versus modernity. No - the struggle is whether Hubal, the Moon God of Mecca, known as Allah, is supreme, or whether the Judeo-Christian Jehovah God of the Bible is Supreme.

    If God's chosen people turn over to Allah control of their most sacred sites - if they surrender to Muslim vandals the tombs of Rachel, of Joseph, of the Patriarchs, of the ancient prophets - if they believe their claim to the Holy Land comes only from Lord Balfour of England and the ever fickle United Nations rather than the promises of Almighty God -then in that event, Islam will have won the battle. Throughout the Muslim world the message will go forth - “Allah is greater then Jehovah. The promises of Jehovah to the Jews are meaningless. “We can now, in the name of Allah, move to crush the Jews and drive them out of the land that belongs to Allah.”

    In short, those political initiatives that some have asserted will guarantee peace, will in truth guarantee unending struggle and ultimate failure. Those political leaders who only understand the secular dimension of Israel's existence and who cavalierly dismiss the spiritual dimension will find that they receive the mess of pottage of Esau rather than the inheritance of Jacob.

    On Christmas Day in 1974, I had the privilege of interviewing Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin for my television program, The 700 Club. Rabin lamented the fact that after Israeli military victories, the nation had been stopped from achieving a peace treaty.

    That was thirty years ago. Israel seemed as isolated and alone then as it does today. As I concluded my interview, I asked Prime Minister Rabin a final question. “What would you want the United States to do now for Israel?” He replied without hesitation. “Be strong! Be strong!”

    That evening I joined for dinner a group of several hundred people who had accompanied me from the United States. We were meeting in the large dining room of the Inter Continental Hotel on the Mount of Olives in Jerusalem, whose floor-to-ceiling windows gave a stunning view of the illuminated Temple Mount. As I related to the group the substance of my meeting, I began to recall the feeling of sadness which had come from the Prime Minister- the sense of the isolation of his nation. That evening, I made a solemn vow to God that despite whatever might happen in the future, I and the organizations I headed would stand in support of Israel and the Jewish people. Ladies and gentlemen, I am proud to say that I have kept that vow each year since 1974.

    In closing I would deliver to Israel in 2004 the message Yitzhak Rabin delivered to the United States on Christmas Day in 1974. For you are the living witnesses that the promises of the Sovereign Lord are true. “Be strong! Be strong!” He will be with you and so will your evangelical friends.

    Thank you, and God bless you!

    Notes (Biblical “anti-Semitism”)

    Titus 1:13-14: "This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith; Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth."
    Revelation 2:9 quotes Jesus Christ as saying: "I know that works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
    1 John 2:22-23: "Who is the liar but he that denieth (like the Moses-Jews) that Jesus is the Christ? He is anti-Christ that denieth the Father and the Son. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: but he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also."
    Galatians 3:29: "And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed and heirs according to the promise." Ergo in the Christian logic: Since the Jews are not Christians, they are not Abraham's seed and are not heirs according to the promise that God made to Abraham.
    Romans 9:13, quoting God: "As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated." Christians consider themselves being of the house of Jacob, whereas the Jews are of the hated house of Esau.
    Acts 9:22-25: "But Saul increased the more in strength, and confounded the Jews which dwelt at Damascus, proving that this is very Christ. And after that many day were fulfilled, the Jews took counsel to kill him: But their laying await was know to Saul. And they watched the gates day and night to kill him. Then the disciples took him by night, and let him down by the wall in a basket."
    Acts 13:50: "But the Jews stirred up the devout and honorable women, and the chief men of the city, and raised persecution against Paul and Barnabas, and expelled them out of their coasts."
    Matthew 26:17-25 says: "Therefore when they were gathered together, Pilate said unto them, Whom will ye that I release unto you? Barabbas, or Jesus which is called Christ? For he knew that for envy they had delivered him. When he was set down on the judgment seat, his wife sent unto him, saying, Have thou nothing to do with that just man: for I have suffered many things this day because of him. "But the chief priests and elders persuaded the multitude that they should ask Barabbas, and destroy Jesus. The Governor answered and said unto them, Whether of the twain will ye that I release unto you? They Barabbas. Pilate said unto them, What shall I do then with Jesus which is called Christ? They all say unto him, Let him be crucified. And the Governor say, Why, what evil hath he done? But they cried out the more, saying, let him be crucified. When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but that rather a tumult was made, he took water, and washed his hands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person: see ye to it. Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and our children." That is what the Bible said about who killed Jesus Christ. The Jewish mob caused a riot and tumult to force the Roman governor to allow the crucifixion of the Son of God. The Jews took the responsibility for the murder of Jesus when they said, "His blood be on us, and on our children."
    1 Thessalonians 2:14-16: … "the Jews who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us, and they please not God, and are contrary to all men."
    Today the Jews have infiltrated most churches and are now trying to get church organizations to contradict the Bible by saying that the Jews had nothing to do with murdering Jesus.
    John 5:15-18: "The man departed, and told the Jews that it was Jesus, which had made him whole. And therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, and sougth to slay him, because he had done these things on the Sabbath day. But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work. Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the Sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God."
    John 7:1: "After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk in Jewry, because the Jew sought to kill him."
    John 7:13 says: "Howbeit no man spake openly of him for fear of the Jews."
    John 10:25-31: "Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed me not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me. But ye believe me not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, with gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. I and my Father are one. Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him."
    John 11:53-57: "Then from that day forth they took counsel together for to put him to death. Jesus therefore walked no more openly among the Jews; but went thence unto a country near to the wilderness, into a city called Ephraim, and there continued with his disciples. "And the Jews' passover was nigh at hand: and many went out of the country up to Jerusalem before the passover, to purify themselves. Then sought they for Jesus, and spake among themselves, as they stood in the temple, What think ye, that he will not come to the feast? Now both the chief priests and the Pharisees had given a commandment, that, if any man knew where he were, he should shew it, that they might take him."
    John 8:44-48: "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lust of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own; for he is a liar, and the father of it. And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. Which of you convinceth me of sin? And, if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me? He that is God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not because ye are not of God. Then answered the Jews."

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    Post Re: Why Evangelical Christians Support Israel

    Evengelicals annoy me beyond hell.....the fact so many "Christians" in America pay attention to their rhetoric is pathetic.

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    Post Re: Why Evangelical Christians Support Israel

    Is Evangelical Protestants in the USA supporting Israel any worse than the Roman Catholic Church supporting Islam?


    The Pope kissing the Quran


    The Pope with a Muslim Palestinian terrorist leader



    Which is worse, supporting Israel and all that that entails, or supporting Islam and all that that entails?
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    Post Re: Why Evangelical Christians Support Israel

    Simple. Get rid of evangelical Christianity, Catholicism, Judaism, and Islam, and all that they collectively entail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeDas

    The Pope with a Muslim Palestinian terrorist leader
    LOL "terrorist leader"

    Are you some kind of crypto-Jew? Or just a shabbos goy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stribog
    Are you some kind of crypto-Jew? Or just a shabbos goy?
    I am not jewish, and I am not an anti-semite. But I am anti-Muslim (arab muslims are 'semites', strictly speaking, but I support Arab Christians). Jews are no serious threat to the West these days (unless you buy into ZOG conspiracy theories), whereas Muslims are a serious threat to the West, as anyone with any sense can see.


    Besides, baseless insults can be used by any side of any agrument. I could say to you "What are you, Stribog, some kind of crypto-Muslim for supporting Muslims?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeDas
    I am not jewish, and I am not an anti-semite. But I am anti-Muslim (arab muslims are 'semites', strictly speaking, but I support Arab Christians). Jews are no serious threat to the West these days (unless you buy into ZOG conspiracy theories), whereas Muslims are a serious threat to the West, as anyone with any sense can see.


    Besides, baseless insults can be used by any side of any agrument. I could say to you "What are you, Stribog, some kind of crypto-Muslim for supporting Muslims?"
    I hardly support Muslims, but they aren't the ones controlling our media and academic circles and pulling our political strings. That's not a "ZOG conspiracy theory" - the first two are quite evident to anyone who is willing to spend 5 minutes looking online at media CEOs and college faculty listings. The latter is not quite as blatant but is still rather apparent if you are willing to dig for nuggets of truth.

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    Post Re: Why Evangelical Christians Support Israel

    If ones choose to interpret kindness and tollerance with pro-extreme Islamism or pro-Judaism supremacy, then it is something wrong with your perception of the Christian faith, of any type it would be.

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    Post Re: Why Evangelical Christians Support Israel

    I think that person in Stribog's picture is himself... he seems to be more anti-Semitic than he is pro-Western. He'd rather the West be taken over by Muslims so that they can purge all the Jews...

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