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    A very informative site about the life of Rudolf He, his efforts to end WW2 and his assassination by the British MI5 in 1987, after 46 years of imprisonment. Including autopsy reports, pictures and testimonies:
    Rudolf Hess website




    I am not defending myself against accusers, whom I deny the right to prefer charges against me and my national comrades. I am not going to discuss accusations which relate to internal German matters, and therefore do not concern foreigners. I am not going to protest statements intended to dishonour me and the German people. I consider such accusations by opponents to be compliments.

    I was privileged for many years of my life to serve under the greatest son whom my people has ever produced in its thousand years of history. Even if I could, I would not erase this time from my existence. I am happy to know that I have done my duty toward my people - my duty as German, as National Socialist, as loyal follower of the Fuehrer. I regret nothing.
    If I were to begin all over again, I would again act as I did, even if I knew that a funeral pyre was waiting at the end for my immolation. Regardless of what people do, I will one day stand before the judgement seat of the Eternal, I will justify myself to Him, and I know, He will exonerate me.
    Rudolf He at the Nuremberg Trials.


    Memorial stone in Scotland
    Tolerance is a proof of distrust in one's own ideals. Friedrich Nietzsche


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    Post Re: Rudolf He

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyklop
    A very informative site about the life of Rudolf He, his efforts to end WW2 and his assassination by the British MI5 in 1987, after 46 years of imprisonment.
    What would have motivated MI5 to do away with Hess after so long?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Blond Beast
    What would have motivated MI5 to do away with Hess after so long?
    The approval of the Soviet government to finally release him.
    Tolerance is a proof of distrust in one's own ideals. Friedrich Nietzsche


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    Post Re: AW: Re: Rudolf He

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyklop
    The approval of the Soviet government to finally release him.
    What could he have divulged that would have been harmful to England? That England had seriously considered seeking peace with Germany during the early '40s?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Blond Beast
    What could he have divulged that would have been harmful to England? That England had seriously considered seeking peace with Germany during the early '40s?
    On the contrary, the fact that Great Britain (or better: Churhill) wanted this war at all costs. Note that He flew to Scotland in May 1941 when the German success was unstopped and the war still had no worldwide dimensions. The documents about Heߴs flight are kept sealed until the year 2017.
    To the British, He was an annoying relict of WW2 whose release would most probably have brought up many questions about the oh so noble allied war motives.
    The war was lead against Germany not National Socialism and the treatmeant of Rudolf He shows this even more clearly than the allied desinterest in the Anti-Hitler conspirers around Stauffenberg & Co.
    The annual Rudolf He memorial marches in Wunsiedel each August are the largest nationalist demonstrations in Germany with participants from all around Europe.
    Tolerance is a proof of distrust in one's own ideals. Friedrich Nietzsche


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    Post Re: Rudolf He

    EYTYXEITE!

    Thank you for the very informative thread you post, dear Zyklop!

    Sorry to mention my disagreement to the term you used:
    Quote Originally Posted by Zyklop




    at the Nuremberg Trials.

    A mockery of Justice, a loughable performance, couldn't be never a "Trial"!
    Kindest Regards!

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    The grave of Rudolf He in Wunsiedel/Franconia.
    Epitaph says Ich habs gewagt (I dared to)



    Some pictures of previous Rudolf He marches.







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    I hope next year to join the March!
    ME NE FREGO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyklop





    A very informative site about the life of Rudolf He, his efforts to end WW2 and his assassination by the British MI5 in 1987, after 46 years of imprisonment. Including autopsy reports, pictures and testimonies:
    Rudolf Hess website




    I am not defending myself against accusers, whom I deny the right to prefer charges against me and my national comrades. I am not going to discuss accusations which relate to internal German matters, and therefore do not concern foreigners. I am not going to protest statements intended to dishonour me and the German people. I consider such accusations by opponents to be compliments.

    I was privileged for many years of my life to serve under the greatest son whom my people has ever produced in its thousand years of history. Even if I could, I would not erase this time from my existence. I am happy to know that I have done my duty toward my people - my duty as German, as National Socialist, as loyal follower of the Fuehrer. I regret nothing.
    If I were to begin all over again, I would again act as I did, even if I knew that a funeral pyre was waiting at the end for my immolation. Regardless of what people do, I will one day stand before the judgement seat of the Eternal, I will justify myself to Him, and I know, He will exonerate me.
    Rudolf He at the Nuremberg Trials.


    Memorial stone in Scotland
    Supposing of course that this really was Rudolph Hess who was murdered in Spandau. There are a huge (!!) number of things that simply do not add up and make one question what is the truth of the matter. The wounds on his body did not add up with accounts he said of how he had been wounded previously, important facts about people that he should have known and dates etc were all 'forgotten' or simply could not recall. No signature ever being identified to be his. The fact that many of his fellow NS officers almost were saying that the man at the Nuremburg Trials was not him etc.. Hermann Goering, Hitler's Luftwaffe commander, also tried at Nuremberg, had this to say about the supposed Hess on trial there: "Hess? Which Hess? The Hess you have here? Our Hess? Your Hess?" Many of these things just do not add up.

    I heartily recomend reading the book "Double Standards - The Rudolph Hess Coverup."

    Also see:
    http://www.shout.net/~bigred/Hess.htm

    and oddly enough, the website that was announcing the book Double Standards before it was out, dissapeared shortly after the book came out. However, most of it can still be found through the WayBackMachine site.

    http://www.waybackmachine.org/ then just type in http://www.rudolphhess.com

    more later perhaps...
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    Quote Originally Posted by folkandfaith
    ... Hermann Goering, Hitler's Luftwaffe commander, also tried at Nuremberg, had this to say about the supposed Hess on trial there: "Hess? Which Hess? The Hess you have here? Our Hess? Your Hess?"
    The above statement was probably a consequence of Hess' putative amnesia, not the fact that he was, literally, a physically different person.

    [Interrogations, Richard Overy, 2001]

    pg. 124

    Yet Kelley found him in general in good mental health. The paranoia was not serious and the delusional states berief and disconnected. Most other mental functions were normal, with the excepetion of what Kelley called 'a spotty amnesia'. Some things he could remember very clearly, principally connected with the delusions of attempted murder, but even recent facts which a conventional amnesiac should have been able to remember, Hess appeared to lose within days. Kelley diagnosed a personality with a propensity to 'hysterical and obsessive' behaviour. [...] The amnesia might be explained as one that was self-induced, or conscious, but the power of hysterical auto-suggestion in such a mind made the memory loss none the less real for the individual experiencing it...

    pg. 125

    Hess was judged to be a voluntary amnesiac, who deliberately used memory loss as a defence mechansim in British hands until the behaviour became to some extent 'habitual'. It was considered that Hess would not abandon this most acute form of psychological defence while he remained under threat of punishment or exposure.

    pg. 126

    On 29 November, the four prosecuting counsels signed the following statement: 'It is our position that the defendant Rudolf Hess is fit to stand trial.' [...] The psychiatric evidence was presented first. Then Hess was invited to speak. To the consternation of his lawyer he calmly announced that he had recovered from his amnesia:

    My memory is again in order. The reason why I simulated loss of memory was tactical. In fact it is only that my power of concentration is slightly reduced but in conflict [sic] to that my capacity to follow the trial, my capacity to defend myself, to put questions to witnesses or even to answer questions -- in these my capacities are not influenced. I emphasize that I bear full responsibility for everything that I have done...

    pg. 127

    Whatever the exact mechanism that jolted Hess out of amnesia, his claim that memory loss was merely tractical was misleading. A substantial part of the amnesia was not feigned. [...] In fact Hess took weeks to recover his memory, and then never fully. As the trail proceeded he began once more to manifest serious neurotic behaviour and in early march 1946 almost complete memory loss returned. His memory span was little more than half a day.

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