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    Post Re: Is Argentina really 97% white? The CIA factbook says it is.

    Can you still find in Argentina some remnants of Amerindians? Or was it a culture like the ones of the Incas, preceding the arrival of colonists?

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    Post Re: Is Argentina really 97% white? The CIA factbook says it is.

    I lived in Argentina most of my life. 97% is completely WRONG.
    There is a large amount of whites in Argentina, they are a majority in their country, that´s for sure, but I guess it´s more like 65 or 70 percent. Majority of Argentinians are of Italian and Spanish heritage. But in the south, there is large communities of Germans,Welsh,Croatians and Irish.
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    Post Re: Is Argentina really 97% white? The CIA factbook says it is.

    There are many Poles in Argentina as well.

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    Post Re: Is Argentina really 97% white? The CIA factbook says it is.

    I found this on "Hispano Mundo"
    http://www.hispanomundo.com/Argentina.htm

    The People

    The first people to live in what is now Argentina were American Indians. The most important groups belonged to the Guarani tribes in the Northeast. They were farming Indians among whom the Roman Catholic Society of Jesus (Jesuits) during the colonial era established Utopia-like missions (Misiones Province). A group of nomadic Indians lived on the pampas. When they obtained horses from Spanish invaders, they became highly successful military opponents of the Europeans and were not finally conquered until the 20th century. Scattered tribes inhabited the Andean zone from north to south. Most of the native peoples died in warfare and from diseases following the Spanish invasion, which began in 1516. Today only 3 percent of the people of Argentina are Indians and mestizos (mixed). The rest of the people are of European descent.

    Modern Argentina is inhabited by many people of European descent and by a few American Indians. Although various estimates have been made for the Indian population before the Spanish conquest, a conservative number might be 300,000 for the present national area. After the various phases of discovery, exploration, and settlement, the Indian population had been drastically cut. About 40,000 live in Argentina today, primarily in remote Andean valleys and in the Gran Chaco. However, their physical features are sometimes apparent in many gauchos the Pampa cowboys descended from Spanish fathers and Indian mothers and who are, therefore, mestizos.

    It should be noted that African slaves were never important in Argentina because neither mining nor plantation agriculture played a significant role in the colonial economy. Consequently, as European settlers arrived, a white population soon became dominant. By the time Argentina achieved its independence in 1824, the vast majority of the populace had been born in South America.

    After independence was gained, political chaos prevented unification of the country. However, the idea of planned pioneer settlement for the purpose of inhabiting the country's vast empty spaces was carried forward from time to time. In 1856, for example, Swiss and German settlers were invited to found new colonies in the provinces of Buenos Aires and Santa Fe. Other small European groups went to Misiones Territory far to the northeast on the Brazilian border. Then a great wave of foreign immigration began in the early 1880s and lasted for a decade. At that time Italians along with some Spaniards arrived to open the pampas. This marked the beginning of change in the Argentine economy, as European demand for wool, tallow, mutton, and hides increased rapidly until the end of the century. Domestic sheep flocks replaced wild cattle on the plains, and cattle breeding from new European stock began.

    Another immigration wave occurred from 1904 to 1913. Prosperity brought about the construction of a railroad network, which began to stretch across the pampas, and the blossoming of the city of Buenos Aires with its international port. Everything was paid for by the productivity of agriculture on the rich soils of the immediate hinterland. By the time World War I began 30 percent of the Argentine population was foreign-born.

    Another period of immigration between the two world wars marked the onset of the modern development of Misiones Territory by many groups from Europe, especially Germans. A more recent immigration between 1947 and 1955 brought tens of thousands of Italians and Spaniards to the country. Thereafter, immigration from Europe ceased because of the improved economic conditions there. Moreover, the Argentine economy began to falter seriously at the same time.

    Though immigration from Europe stopped in recent years, Argentina at this time began to attract migrants from other South American countries. This resulted in such oddities as the largest population of urban Paraguayans not being in Asuncion, Paraguay, but in Buenos Aires. In northwestern Argentina Bolivians cross the border in sizable and growing numbers, and a small but steady migration from Chile has influenced the population in Patagonia since the early 1900s.

    In addition to immigration there is also a seasonal movement of foreign labor into various parts of Argentina. This is due largely to the lack of mechanization for harvesting crops in much of the nation. For instance, thousands of Paraguayans cross the border to work during the mate harvests in Misiones between December and March. Others come from Bolivia and Chile to help with grape picking in Cuyo and Mendoza from April to July and following that for the sugarcane, cotton, and tobacco harvests in the northern sections of Argentina.

    In the early 1900s the Argentine population structure reflected a growing rural element with the majority of the people less than 20 years of age. In more recent years, especially in the cities, the 30- to 50-year olds have emerged as the dominant group. These data reflect the composition of the capital city of Buenos Aires, in which more than 10 million people live more than one third of the country's population. By the early 1980s there were 17 other cities in the country of more than 100,000, reflecting a trend that shows the nonurban population of Argentina steadily declining.
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    Post Re: Is Argentina really 97% white? The CIA factbook says it is.

    most of the whites in antipodean america (argentina, uruguay, and chile) would not be considered "white" by this board's standards, much of the populace is tinged with indian blood, sometimes noticeable, sometimes not. but of course, they would be considered much more european than their nothern neighbors in south america.

    this is the case because, historically, these areas never had a large indigenous indian population to begin with, and had little economic value (compared to the north, due to its lack of precious metals) to the spanish colonizers, thus few black slaves were brough to the region. however, antipodean america is technically "white man's" country because it's climate is similar to that of europe, and during the 18th and 19th centuries, massive waves of european immigrants from northern italy and germany arrived in antipodean america, attracted by its climate, abundant land, and sparse population.

    from what i gather from sources, nowadays, the european characteristics are rapidly declining in these historically white nations due to declining birth rates of native whites, and an influx non-white immigration (who also tend to have a much higher birth rate than natives) from more northern south american countries.

    here, this article by a (i assume white) Uruguayan should clear things up pretty well.

    http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=1404
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    Post Re: Is Argentina really 97% white? The CIA factbook says it is.

    i don't know how many non-white people there are here.
    But this is absolutely wrong...

    Quote Originally Posted by yamato
    most of the whites in antipodean america (argentina, uruguay, and chile) would not be considered "white" by this board's standards, much of the populace is tinged with indian blood, sometimes noticeable, sometimes not. but of course, they would be considered much more european than their nothern neighbors in south america.
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    Quote Originally Posted by White Falcon
    Very large numbers od Croats migrated to Argentina,
    specially after WWII.
    are croatian guys so lying as your descendants?
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    i apologize, i shouldn't i have said "most," as many chileans, uruguyans, and argentines pure europeans, but although there are "many" who have indian admixture, as i read from that article

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    Quote Originally Posted by yamato
    i apologize, i shouldn't i have said "most," as many chileans, uruguyans, and argentines pure europeans, but although there are "many" who have indian admixture, as i read from that article
    you don't need apologize, you can say what you want.

    I don't know what's your meaning of "most".

    I think here at least more than 80% of people (argentinians) are whites without indian admixture.
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    Post Re: Is Argentina really 97% white? The CIA factbook says it is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Libertad
    you don't need apologize, you can say what you want.

    I don't know what's your meaning of "most".

    I think here at least more than 80% of people (argentinians) are whites without indian admixture.
    well, I don't know where I should put the jews....
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