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    Post Racial Observations in Trip to Europe

    Well, after several delayed flights and mechanical mishaps, I have returned home from my week and a half vacation to Europe.

    It being my first time over to the continent, I naturally was eager to observe the racial and sub-racial situation each nation presented.

    I'll begin with the Netherlands, and more specifically, Amsterdam. Arabs were numerous, allow were fewer in number that what I had expected. Nevertheless, their very presense lowered the overall ambience in the capital city, and the above factor combined with its liberalism and social leniancy lessened my overall impression of Amsterdam.

    Venturing out into the countryside and into fishing villages, minorities became less numerous, and the population seemed prevailingly, if not uniformly blond.

    This trend continued as we made our way into the German Rhineland, in which blonds seemed to be just as numerous as in the Netherlands. What impressed me the most was the abundance of blond adults, which seem to be much rarer back in North America.

    Our stay in Brussels only featured a quick meal before heading on to France, so I didn't get a good look at the Belgian population.

    Paris was the lowpoint of the trip. Aside from all the sightseeing, the city seemed to offer nothing but pushy Black and North African street vendors, gypsy pickpockets, and an overall lack of order and organization.

    The ethnic French population seemed to rather rude in general, often assuming our group to be Americans. In a racial sense, the French appeared to be FAR darker than the Germans and the Dutch.

    Lastly, London was impressive both in its design and people, obviously aside from the hordes of Browns and Sub-saharan Blacks. The British generally seemed to be closer to the Dutch racially than to the French, and from what I observed, they were generally Nordic in apperance.

    A significant sign of hope that is worth mentioning is that I observed a large amount of antagonism in each nation towards immigrants, much more so than what I have experienced so far in Canada.

    I can only hope that Europe will one day have the strength to expel the foreign invaders from her borders.

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    Post Re: Racial Observations in Trip to Europe

    Originally posted by Trønder
    What impressed me the most was the abundance of blond adults, which seem to be much rarer back in North America.
    To remain blond also in adult age,it's necessary that BOTH the parents must be blond.
    If one parent is blond and the other brown/black in 90% of the cases,the person in childness will be blond,but with the time,the dominant gene of the "dark" parent will darken gradually his hair.
    It's clear that if both parents are blond,the child will birth blond and blond he'll remain.

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    Post Re: Racial Observations in Trip to Europe

    Originally posted by Trønder
    The ethnic French population seemed to rather rude in general, often assuming our group to be Americans. In a racial sense, the French appeared to be FAR darker than the Germans and the Dutch.
    What did they look like? Are you sure you were not looking at arabs and northern africans?

    It is amazing that some people think that the French are part of some non-white racial group. What race do you think they are a part of?

    Why is it that every French foreign exchange student I have ever seen has the skin color of the typical non-mongrelized white american?
    Last edited by Von Braun; Saturday, April 12th, 2003 at 01:18 AM.

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    Post Re: Re: Racial Observations in Trip to Europe

    Originally posted by Von Braun
    What did they look like? Are you sure you were not looking at arabs and northern africans?

    It is amazing that some people think that the French are part of some non-white racial group. What race do you think they are a part of?

    Why is it that every French foreign exchange student I have ever seen has the skin color of the typical non-mongrelized white american?
    The French are obviously white.

    I was merely describing what I observed.

    I happened to be in one of the blondest areas of Germany and the Netherlands, in which roughly every third or second person was blond, blue-eyed, and fair skinned.

    In France, maybe one in 10 or one in 15 had the same characteristics.

    And yes, I generally was able to discern between the French and North African populations that existed there.

    My post was not intended to denigrate the French people.

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    Post Re: Re: Re: Racial Observations in Trip to Europe

    Originally posted by Trønder
    The French are obviously white.

    I was merely describing what I observed.

    I happened to be in one of the blondest areas of Germany and the Netherlands, in which roughly every third or second person was blond, blue-eyed, and fair skinned.

    In France, maybe one in 10 or one in 15 had the same characteristics.

    And yes, I generally was able to discern between the French and North African populations that existed there.

    My post was not intended to denigrate the French people.
    Ok, so you were hung up on the frequency of black hair? Well, the British Isles have many indiginous inhabitants with black hair, and this area was never overrun by semites (part of France was briefly overrun a long time ago, > 1000 years), unless you believe the "refuting racial myths" guy who claims that dark Brits are descendants of Phonecian saliors. eyes:

    I have seen black-haired Frenchmen who are as light skinned as the next white person. All of my French ancestry funnled through this white man, my paternal grandfather. I have been told that he was a UP mixed with CLASSICAL Mediterranean (just like Goebbels and Mengele were white classical Mediterranean).

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    Originally posted by Trønder


    Venturing out into the countryside and into fishing villages, minorities became less numerous, and the population seemed prevailingly, if not uniformly blond.

    This trend continued as we made our way into the German Rhineland, in which blonds seemed to be just as numerous as in the Netherlands. What impressed me the most was the abundance of blond adults, which seem to be much rarer back in North America.

    So you saw what I saw too? I spent about 3-4 months in Schleswig-Holstein Germans there are almost totally blond, much blonder than here by far! But I didn't know how the Rheinland was, although some of my German ancestors were from the Rheinland Pfalz, and they sailed down the Rhine River to get to the Ocean so they could come to the US.

    Did you know that the Dutch are really just lowland Germans?
    Take the dutch language, it's so close to German, and the name Dutch itself comes from Deutsch. I think Germany should unite with the Netherlands and Austria and kick out all the nonwhites... for a fourth reich

    English people are also for the most part also related to Germans, but they are also related to the people from nordic countries.

    My cousins are 50% German, 25% Norwegian and 25% English, and they are just as blond and blue eyed as any Scandinavian.

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    Jen, Tronder mentioned Germany, the Netherlands, France, and England, while you mentioned Germany, the Netherlands, and England. Why did you leave France out?

    English people are also for the most part also related to Germans
    Yes, the Angles, Saxons, and Jutes were Germanic tribes who settled in England. What about the Franks, a Germanic tribe that settled in France? Do they count?

    I thought you were against this war also. Please don't join the anti-France/pro-war thing. I am sick of hearing white lemmings bash France because of the French government's stance on the war.

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    Ok, so you were hung up on the frequency of black hair?
    Yes.

    Black hair or dark brown hair is darker than light brown or blond hair.

    IT'S A FACT.

    IT'S EMPIRICAL.

    I never once implied that this was the result of non-white admixture.

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    << Yes, the Angles, Saxons, and Jutes were Germanic tribes who settled in England. What about the Franks, a Germanic tribe that settled in France? Do they count? >>

    I don't know what NP88 will say, but just keep in mind that - based on what I've read - the Franks did not contribute much to Frances racial makeup...nor to its culture if you really think about it.
    France seems to be made up of an alpine and mediterranean substrate with later dinaric and 'keltic' infusions, the later coming from:
    1) The Gauls, who were probably not of a single sub-race, but contained a keltic component
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    2) The Franks, who were racially keltic (as opposed to hallstatt) in type despite being a Germanic people. And these, as already said, did not contribute much culturally or racially.

    This is all just based on what I've read. I've never been to France, so I could be totally wrong.

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    I have seen black-haired Frenchmen who are as light skinned as the next white person. All of my French ancestry funnled through this white man, my paternal grandfather.
    I agree with you that the French are white.


    I think you have misinterpreted an anti-French bias in this thread that never existed in the first place.

    I'm 1/16 French, yet neither German nor Dutch.

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