View Poll Results: How would you characterize Ancient Greek Civilization (and Philosophy) ?

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  • Aryan

    17 23.61%
  • Mediteranean

    13 18.06%
  • Essentialy Mediteranean

    6 8.33%
  • Middle Eastern

    2 2.78%
  • Asian

    0 0%
  • Nordic

    3 4.17%
  • Balcan

    1 1.39%
  • Celtic (!)

    0 0%
  • Just....Greek

    15 20.83%
  • Hellenic

    43 59.72%
  • Aigyptian

    1 1.39%
  • Babylonian

    0 0%
  • African

    1 1.39%
  • I would have voted for a previous option, if I was not an ignorant fool..

    1 1.39%
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Thread: How Would You Characterize the Ancient Greek Civilization/Philosophy?

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    Post Re: How would you characterize Ancient Greek Civilization/Philosophy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Awar
    Yes, but only in that period
    This time period is the origins of urban civilisation in Greece, so its the most important in defining Greece as a civilisation.

    Essentially mediterranean would mean that there's some
    serious similarity goin' on between all the civilizations in the mediterranean
    in all the eras. I just don't think there's such a strong connection between
    the civs of Iberria/Spain, Carthago, the Levant, the Arabs, ancient and Islamic Egypt, Aegean, Balkans, Apenines ( Etruscan, Roman and renneisance ) etc. etc.
    There isnt one origin for Mediterranean civilisation, so I wouldn't talk about one Mediterranean culture, but Mediterranean does describe sevreal civilisations that have historical interactions. And many of those cultures which you mentioned share a traditional dependence on seasonal, Mediterranean rainfall to support their civilisations (though this doesn't apply to places like Arabia, Egypt or Mesopotamia) so theres a pattern of native cultural evolution through most of the Mediterranean.

    So, in a word, no, I don't think there's such a thing as one all-encompassing med civilization.
    But because of the historical ties between neighbouring civilisations in the Mediterranean, they can be described as being Mediterranean civilisations.

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    Post Re: How would you characterize Ancient Greek Civilization/Philosophy?

    Quote Originally Posted by atlanto-med
    Its because of this reason that the origin of Greek civilisation was continuous with that in Anatolia and should be considered as Agean and more generally as a part of the Eastern Mediterranean
    So one could argue that modern Turkey is - in some way - a continuation of Greek civilization?

    Constantin

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    Post Re: How would you characterize Ancient Greek Civilization/Philosophy?

    EYTYXEITE!
    Hellenic. It says all.
    Kindest Regards!

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    Post Re: How would you characterize Ancient Greek Civilization/Philosophy?

    Quote Originally Posted by ogenoct
    So one could argue that modern Turkey is - in some way - a continuation of Greek civilization?

    Constantin
    Istanbul is a Greek city and the people of the Ottoman capital Istanbul are of Greek descent. The name of Istanbul comes from Constantinople through Stambul and the Ottoman Empire was the heir of the Eastern Roman Empire and of the old Greek east, but to me modern Turkey is a revolt against their Classical and Ottoman heritage.

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    Post Re: How would you characterize Ancient Greek Civilization/Philosophy?

    It was a perfect multi-subracial synthesis.
    I did not vote.

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    Post Re: How would you characterize Ancient Greek Civilization/Philosophy?

    Japetos, come on, why didnt you vote?

    I put the last option especially for you, let me remind you of this option, in the hope that you will reconsider and honour my worthy poll: "I would have voted for a previous option, if I was not an ignorant fool.. "

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    Post Re: How would you characterize Ancient Greek Civilization/Philosophy?

    Quote Originally Posted by atlanto-med
    modern Turkey is a revolt against their Classical and Ottoman heritage.
    The same could be said about modern Greece (sans the Ottoman heritage, of course).

    Constantin

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    Post Re: How would you characterize Ancient Greek Civilization/Philosophy?

    Quote Originally Posted by ogenoct
    The same could be said about modern Greece (sans the Ottoman heritage, of course).

    Constantin
    Well State Nationalism is a corruption the same as Communism and Liberalism, you know we both agree on that. But because the Turkish Ottomans were a caste not an ethnic majority, Turkicisation was the more drastic of the two.

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    Post Re: How would you characterize Ancient Greek Civilization/Philosophy?

    Before I start to vote, what do you consider "Ancient Greek" ?
    As far as I read most people prefer "hellenic", but as you also gave "Greek" as a possible answer I assume you talk about "hellenistic", but the hellenistic period started with Alexander the Great, if you want with his father Phillip of Macedonia.

    But before this period you have also the classical one and the archaic one (and even before that the dark ages), so which one ?

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    Just plain Aryan. Greek philosophy is, essentially, an intellectualised version of Vedic religion, with the metaphor and intuitive understanding replaced by rational argument, but communicating the same message.

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