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    Post Conspiracy View of History

    The view that the progress of history, and the state of the present is the result of some Conspiracy or other is a dominant idea today.

    Alleged Conspiracies involving the Jews, Freemasons, Jesuits etc., are expounded at length on the internet, as we know.

    Therefore, I would like others to respond to the following questions;

    Is history merely random and largely accidental, or is it the result of a certain guiding will, or 'hidden hand'?


    To those that answer the above in the affirmative, I'd ask - is there an Anti-Aryan [or anti-White] Conspiracy abroad in the World today?

    And if there is, how should Aryans/Whites respond to it?
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    I don't believe that there is an anti-white conspiracy going on, rather I believe that there is a very obvious anti-white attitude in this world today. In the eyes of Jews, Africans, and even most whites today, we have been the great oppressors; we enslaved Africans, made the Chinese build our railroads, committed Genocide, pushed women into a life of servitude, etc. etc. Modern society will admit quite easily that "whites" have done much evil in the world. But they ignore whether other races have done the same things, and they deny the fact that the advances we have made for the world far surpass that of any other race. We are the only race allowed to be put down or discriminated against.

    As for whether this is because of the actions of Jews working against us -well, maybe it is, but maybe it is not as much of a conspiracy as it is just the simple fact that Jewish goals conflict with our race. It has been like that throughout history. Maybe in these modern times Jews have the mentality that they do because of the "anti-semitism" they themselves have caused? Organizations like the ADL, the JDL, they have a common theme that Jews are constantly being persecuted and that they must fight to stop another Holocaust; I guess in their minds white gentiles would be more of a threat to that than any other group of people.

    I cannot really answer whether I think history has been guided along by a "hidden hand", at least not over centuries. I do believe though, that there are periods of time where people have silently brought their goals into society through conniving and deceit. I don't think anyone has the capability to totally manipulate history over large periods of time -rather that Jews, for instance (them above any group of people), repeat the same types of behaviour over and over making it seem to some like a large conspiracy.

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    I do not believe in a single massive conspiracy throughout history. I do believe that there are interconnected events that have been largely concealed from the general public of Aryan lands, and as such can be called a web of smaller conspiracies. The Jews figure prominently in virtually all such endeavors, but there are many Whites also involved, out of self-hatred, greed, religious fervor, or some other motivation. The Freemasons/Illuminati have perplexed me. They include many, many, obvious enemies of conscious whites: FDR, Churchill, Truman, W. E. B. Du Bois, Jesse Jackson, Thurgood Marshall, Kweisi Mfume, Charles Schumer, and David Sarnoff, to name a few.
    Oddly, though, numerous people who for all intents and purposes were on "our side", were also Masons: D. W. Griffith (director of Birth of a Nation) George Wallace, Albert Pike (early Klan leader), Henry Ford, Charles Lindbergh, and almost all of the American Founders.
    It leaves me confused as to the intent of this group. I think that the overall impact of Masons acting in history has definitely been negative for us, though, and I know that National Socialists vehemently opposed them. Strangely, the Jew-led young USSR banned them as well? Perhaps it is all a smokescreen?
    Anyway, regardless of the role of Freemasons, I would say that some of the more prominent conspiracies and historical "events" foisted on unwitting Aryans would include:
    The American Civil War and suspension of most of the Constitution
    The Federal Reserve scam and its counterparts in Europe
    World War I and the Balfour Edict
    The "New Deal" and suspension of the rest of the Constitution
    World War II, with so many that they deserve separate sublistings:
    - relentless and organized Jewish propaganda on a global level
    - British and French declaration of war on Germany for no reason
    - the Pearl Harbor hoax
    - the Holohoax
    There are others later on, but these are the major ones that set us on our current path to destruction.

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    Post The History of a Conspiracy, the Conspiracy of History.

    I am a believer in the Conspiracy view of history.

    I also believe that the Jews are the authors of this Conspiracy.

    This is not to say that ALL Jews are involved, or that all the efforts of the Conspirators [and their lackeys] have been successful.

    The main objection to a Conspiratorial view is, how could a Conspiracy be carried out across centuries and centuries of history?

    I agree that in most cases, when a culture is made homeless it usually becomes extinct - short-termism is the norm for human societies.
    But this is not so in the case of the Jews.
    Attempt after attempt has been made to eradicate this race, and yet it has always survived, as ineradicable as the flea.
    Even when deprived of its [self-stolen] homeland it wandered Europe and the Middle East still retaining itself intact, even in the face of righteous persecution.

    This is some achievement; how have the Jews managed this?

    I believe they early evolved a set of practices encoded in their 'religion', which the Conspirators adhere to, and like any good parasite have worked out how to exist within a host while gradually subverting that host COMPLETELY to their own advantage.
    They then go on to another victim while keeping tabs on the first, thereby linking up their covert empire.

    This is the basic process of their Conspiracy which has gone on for THOUSANDS of years.

    What convinced me of this?

    Two things stand out.
    First, while studying the works of the German philosopher F.W.Nietzsche, I was struck by his analysis of early Christianity.
    He virtually describes it as a Conspiracy hatched by the Jews to subvert the Roman Empire.
    Nietzsche was a highly sceptical philosopher, who was not a typical anti-Semite; his analysis seemed spot-on.

    Secondly, I read The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion.
    This is a remarkable document which has obviously served as a blue-print for the Conspiracy.

    As Nilus's epilogue to the 1905 edition of the Protocols makes clear, this Conspiracy has its roots in ancient Israel/Judah.
    He describes how the Conspiracy Snake has worked its way across the ages;
    930 B.C. Israel/Judah
    429 B.C. Greece
    69 B.C. Rome
    A.D. 1552 Madrid
    1790 Paris
    1841 London
    1871 Berlin
    1881 Russia

    Nilus was writing in 1905, and the Snake had yet to achieve WWI, the Russian Revolution, WWII and the founding of the State of Israel.

    The present Gulf conflict has the Snake's indelible signature.

    Being a Jewish Conspiracy [no matter how many non-Jews are involved], it is BY ITS VERY NATURE anti-Aryan.
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    How do Freemasons, the Illuminati, and the Bilderbergers/Trilateral Commission tie into your worldview? Are they simply alternate manifestations of Jewish power? If so, why were there notable Freemasons on "our side"? I am genuinely confused, as I said, so I am just curious if you have resolved this apparent paradox....?

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    Post Sides?

    Those organisations are clearly antithetical to Aryan conceptions of Goverance.
    They draw their inspiration from the Jewish model of secretive and subversive movements; surely such things are abhorrent to the Aryan who likes to conduct his business out in the open, with Pride and with Honour!

    It is known that the Freemasons works on a series of levels - i.e., the secrecy is within the organisation as well as around it.
    As far as I can tell the Masons were created to make useful gentiles into honourary sub-Jews, and I know of no Masons who are "on our side".

    Of course, "sides" do not figure in the Conspiracy which always attempts to finance and control ALL sides.
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    Question To Moody

    I want to know more about your Conspiracy view of history. Obviously a great many Jews have been responsible for a great many evils . Do you believe that every Jew carries an appetite for destruction and harbors malice towards all Aryans? How do you define a Jew? Racially? Religiously? Are Sephardic, Levantine, Ashkenazi and Khazar Jews all exactly the same? Can you define Jews as a racial type? Is someone 1/4 Jewish a Jew? 1/8? What about an Aryan that converts to Judaism (yes, it does happen), or a Jew who renounces every facet of his upbringing and culture? I am not being skeptical, I simply am curious what your answers to these questions are. What are your views on Disraeli and Goldwater, who were of Jewish background but repudiated Judaism and advocated racial separation? If Jews such as these are "plants," then who is to say that any given white racialists are not merely plants? You seemed to entertain the notion that Don Black was a plant, which is patently absurd.
    As far as Freemasons and the Illuminati, how exactly do they figure in this conspiracy? You never cited specific actions, or explained away Masons that do not fit your conspiracy theory. The founders were Masons, yes, and they also advocated racial separation. What about Masons like Albert Pike of the Klan, Henry Ford, and George Wallace? Were they all plants too? If your logic is taken to the extreme, then no one can be trusted. Who all is involved in this conspiracy, and what is its goal?
    I certainly agree that Judaism is a supremacist religion, that most Jews desire world hegemony, and that the vast majority of Jews have a very negative impact on the world. However, do you believe that Jews really hold secret meetings in dark rooms where they openly discuss world domination? If the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion are real, why would Jews willingly let someone take notes at their "top-secret meeting for world domination"? Yes, most Jews desire this, but they aren't a bunch of James Bond villains in secret lairs. The Old Testament is a book that fairly openly demonstrates a Zionist agenda, and it is certainly available for anyone to read, given that it constitutes the bulk of the Bible. Do you believe that Christianity is a deliberately concocted Jewish conspiracy hatched by Paul? If so, why would they include so many anti-Jewish passages as well as pro-Jewish passages in the New Testament? It seems to me that several forces were at work shaping early Christianity, hence its contradictory nature and doctrine. I think it was an unfortunate evolutionary development, not a conspiracy. If you believe you have evidence to the contrary, by all means enlighten me.

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    Post Re: To Moody

    Originally posted by Fionn mac Cumhaill
    I want to know more about your Conspiracy view of history. Obviously a great many Jews have been responsible for a great many evils . Do you believe that every Jew carries an appetite for destruction and harbors malice towards all Aryans? How do you define a Jew? Racially? Religiously? Are Sephardic, Levantine, Ashkenazi and Khazar Jews all exactly the same? Can you define Jews as a racial type? Is someone 1/4 Jewish a Jew? 1/8? What about an Aryan that converts to Judaism (yes, it does happen), or a Jew who renounces every facet of his upbringing and culture? I am not being skeptical, I simply am curious what your answers to these questions are. What are your views on Disraeli and Goldwater, who were of Jewish background but repudiated Judaism and advocated racial separation? If Jews such as these are "plants," then who is to say that any given white racialists are not merely plants? You seemed to entertain the notion that Don Black was a plant, which is patently absurd.
    As far as Freemasons and the Illuminati, how exactly do they figure in this conspiracy? You never cited specific actions, or explained away Masons that do not fit your conspiracy theory. The founders were Masons, yes, and they also advocated racial separation. What about Masons like Albert Pike of the Klan, Henry Ford, and George Wallace? Were they all plants too? If your logic is taken to the extreme, then no one can be trusted. Who all is involved in this conspiracy, and what is its goal?
    I certainly agree that Judaism is a supremacist religion, that most Jews desire world hegemony, and that the vast majority of Jews have a very negative impact on the world. However, do you believe that Jews really hold secret meetings in dark rooms where they openly discuss world domination? If the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion are real, why would Jews willingly let someone take notes at their "top-secret meeting for world domination"? Yes, most Jews desire this, but they aren't a bunch of James Bond villains in secret lairs. The Old Testament is a book that fairly openly demonstrates a Zionist agenda, and it is certainly available for anyone to read, given that it constitutes the bulk of the Bible. Do you believe that Christianity is a deliberately concocted Jewish conspiracy hatched by Paul? If so, why would they include so many anti-Jewish passages as well as pro-Jewish passages in the New Testament? It seems to me that several forces were at work shaping early Christianity, hence its contradictory nature and doctrine. I think it was an unfortunate evolutionary development, not a conspiracy. If you believe you have evidence to the contrary, by all means enlighten me.
    isent the present USA a proofe of the theory, jeeeeeeeeeeews are in power everywhere, a threat to mankind!!!!!! despite all cyper talk here about race, the US world order is the doom of European civilization be it Med or Nordic!!
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    That didn't really answer my questions.

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    Post Cons-piracy

    A basic 'power-based' [and therefore amoral] outlook will take the view that differing ethnic/religious groups will always vie for superiority when they come into contact.
    This has happened throughout history, and has included conflicts between Jews and Aryans.

    To say that some Jews are "evil" because of this is a moral imputation of a Judao/Christian type, and one that I do not share.
    It is enough to say that the Aryan and Jew are enemies.
    In that struggle the Jew may attempt to even Judaise the Aryan or the Aryan to Aryanise the Jew.
    There is some malice in all this, certainly.

    The basic tactics and strategies of divide and rule, manufacuring 'enemies', creating 'problem/reaction/ready-made solution' etc., should be well known.
    Judaic governments are quite capable of staging 'terrorist' events which kill hundreds of gentiles [or even Jews] in order to COVERTLY advance their political agenda.
    This ruthlessness must be confronted as a reality.
    It is foolish to take world events at face value - the same goes for historical events, hence Revisionism.

    I would say that the Jew was a racial type which created its own religion by piecing together religious ideas found among some of its neighbours. Other, non-Sermitic, races have even converted to this Judaism throughout history thus confusing the basic racial nature of the Jews.

    However, Judaism is a religion meant to preserve a race and was adopted by the non-Semitic Khazars, for example.
    It is also a religion with an explicit racial supremacy component, which in its extreme form would like to see the Jews ruling the world over all other races. Those non-Jewish races are apparently called "cattle" by the Jews in their Talmud.

    This gives a basic raison d'etre for a long term Conspiracy conducted against non-Jews by Jews in pursuit of a One World Government.

    Given the above, any nit-picking regarding Jewish 'blood %', or Aryan converts to Judaism are fairly irrelevant.
    What is relevant is the fact that some Jewish families over the ages have pursued this agenda; true, some Jews have denounced that agenda, and some Aryans have AIDED that agenda. But all that is minutiae; essentially the agenda, with its Semitic roots, is apparent.

    I am afraid that I have not heard of Don Black, although it is fairly obvious that Jewish organisations such as the JDL, Mossad etc., would try to use infiltrators into White political parties.
    This is a standard intelligence procedure, after all.

    For many centuries, when Jews were expelled from European countries, some Jews remained as converts to Christianity. It is said that they never really renounced their Judaism, and nutured long their resentment against the Aryan.
    Again, that some Jews converted as a 'front' is undeniable, and we may say that Jewish instincts 'die hard'.
    Note that Marx's father was such a convert to Protestantism, calling his son Karl; and yet, is not Marx's Communism replete with Jewish instinct?

    Disraeli, another convert to Protestantism was quite candid; to him race was the most important factor in history.
    Jews KNOW this - that is why they are often in the forefront in preaching anti-racism ... for Aryans!

    I have already spoken of the 'levels' of Freemasonry, where perfectly innocent Aryans may join such organisations thinking that they are doing 'good works'.
    However, it seems that the upper echelons are dedicated to creating a One World Government perfectly in synch with the Jewish Elders.

    I would certainly mistrust ANYONE who was a Mason - such secretive groups have no place in an Aryan society. Remember that Hitler and Mussolini outlawed such groups in their own countries.

    That Christianity was created by Jews is undeniable; that Paul sought to convert non-Jews to its cause is also undeniable.
    We can see today how Judaism and its supposed 'enemy' Christianity dovetail in the machinations of Team Bush where a Jewish/Christian agenda is at work.

    There are many examples of conspiracy; for example the New York [Jewish] bank of Kuhn, Loeb and Company both instigated and funded the Bolshevik revolution [Bolsheviks were predominantly Jews], and yet continued to deny that this was the case for many years.*

    This was a clear case of [Jewish] conspiracy.

    Of course history is very complex, but it is the job of the historian to look for broad themes which manifest themselves at a certain perspective.

    It is, moreover, in the interest of the Conspirators to protest at the very idea of a conspiracy, and caricature it as 'darkened rooms' and 'paranoia' etc.,
    They advance their agenda easily when met with naivety.

    However, the leading conspiracy theorists have been proved right more often than not by the subsequent course of world events.

    *recommend reading;
    AK Chesterton's 'The New Unhappy Lords'.
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