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    Post Why Moslem Terrorists Commit Suicide

    Why Muslim Terrorists Commit Suicide

    You might want to know this !

    Everyone seems to be wondering why Muslim terrorists are so quick to
    Commit suicide. Let's see now...

    No baseball, no football, no cheerleaders, no basketball, no hockey, no
    tailgate parties, no pork BBQ, no hotdogs, no 'burgers, no lobster, no
    shellfish, or even frozen fish sticks.

    They have rags for clothes, towels for hats. Constant wailing from the
    guy next door because he is sick and there are no doctors. You can't
    shave,
    your wife can't shave. You can't shower to wash off the smell of donkey
    cooked over burning camel dung.

    The women have to wear baggy dresses and veils at all times. Your bride
    is picked by someone else. She smells just like your donkey, but your
    donkey has a better disposition. Then they tell you it all gets better
    when you die.

    No Mystery here!

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    Plus they have balls to die for their own kind. Just like the Jap Kammikaze suicide bombers. Sikhs have a special suicide army waiting for their turn to die for their country.
    Seems only whites dont have suicide bombers to give their life for their race. HMM A thought on why that is?

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    My view on this;

    I would not die for my race or folk like that in general or just described, I would perhaps die if I was involved into something which related to my personal pride on feeling of justice which I have influencing me cause of my biological race repertoire (or mainly equipped human repertoire in some cases?) but not cause its projected unto me. so you see the two-sided ambivalence illustrated?

    The thing is we are to noble for such coward attacks, they are lead by people who think their are several existences and paradises beyond not but us who acknowledge the importance of this existence we have now, this is serious man this is no joke, you only have one life, think about that. I would like to think of several paradises cause it must be most easy after all.

    What kinda warrior is a suicidal bomber anyway?
    he acknowledge no victory from the begining. therefor not a real warrior!

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    Originally posted by NORTHSTAR
    My view on this;

    I would not die for my race or folk like that in general or just described, I would perhaps die if I was involved into something which related to my personal pride on feeling of justice which I have influencing me cause of my biological race repertoire (or mainly equipped human repertoire in some cases?) but not cause its projected unto me. so you see the two-sided ambivalence illustrated?

    The thing is we are to noble for such coward attacks, they are lead by people who think their are several existences and paradises beyond not but us who acknowledge the importance of this existence we have now, this is serious man this is no joke, you only have one life, think about that. I would like to think of several paradises cause it must be most easy after all.

    What kinda warrior is a suicidal bomber anyway?
    he acknowledge no victory from the begining. therefor not a real warrior!
    I could not have said it any better.
    It is this type of logic, that makes these forums a worth while project.
    It is important to exchange thoughts and ideas...So, that way...we can learn from one another.

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    Originally posted by NORTHSTAR

    What kinda warrior is a suicidal bomber anyway?
    he acknowledge no victory from the begining. therefor not a real warrior!


    The same kind of warrior that bombs the crap out of its target and THEN sends in its troops to sweep up the bodies. Yes now that is a warrior called the US Military. Hope this one makes it.
    Last edited by DAVE_NYC; Wednesday, April 2nd, 2003 at 07:32 PM.

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    Post Controversial anti-Muslim advert causes outcry

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    The advert appeared in a number of weekend papers (swissinfo)The Muslim community in Switzerland and the Federal Commission against Racism have condemned a controversial advert about Muslim birth rates.

    But they have decided not to make an official complaint against the advert, which was placed by a group linked to the rightwing Swiss People’s Party.

    Publication of the advert comes less than three weeks before the country is due to vote on easing restrictions on Swiss citizenship for second- and third-generation foreigners.

    “Thanks to automatic naturalisations – Muslims soon a majority?” screamed the advert, which appeared in the weekend editions of several Swiss newspapers.

    It went on to suggest that the number of Muslims in Switzerland was doubling every ten years, and that they would make up 72 per cent of the population by 2040.

    The advert was published by a committee “against mass naturalisations”, which is using the address of Ulrich Schlüer, a People’s Party parliamentarian.

    The People’s Party has denied responsibility for the advert, and says it does not finance the group concerned.

    However, the party – which is against easing the naturalisation process – did welcome the advert.

    “We think this advert is positive because it’s important to inform the population ahead of the vote on September 26. It’s helping us in our campaign,” said People's Party spokesman Roman Jäggi.

    Jäggi also insisted that the content was in no way anti-foreigner.

    No complaint

    The Muslim community in Switzerland has condemned the advert but said on Monday that it would not make a formal complaint.

    Farhad Afshar, a professor at Bern University and a leading member of Switzerland’s Muslim community, told swissinfo that it would be better to lead a political campaign against the advert instead.

    “But we Muslims have been hurt by this advert,” said Afshar, who is also head of the Coordination of Islamic Organisations in Switzerland.

    The Federal Commission against Racism has also decided not to make a complaint. But Georg Kreis, the organisation’s president, said the advert was offensive and should be investigated by the authorities.

    “They must find out whether the anti-racism laws have been breached,” he said.

    Unfair

    According to the Federal Immigration, Integration and Emigration Office, the statistics presented in the advert do not give a fair and accurate picture of the Muslim population in Switzerland.

    The advert shows a chart with official statistics for 1990 and 2000, and then “projects” its own statistics for the period up until 2040.

    “They say that every ten years you will have double the number of Muslims, so that by 2050 you will have more Muslims than inhabitants in Switzerland – that’s absurd,” the office’s Mario Tuor told swissinfo.

    Tuor said it was true that the Muslim population in Switzerland had doubled between 1990 and 2000, due to the arrival of many immigrants from the former Yugoslavia.

    But he added that it was wrong to suggest that the Muslim population would double in the next ten years.

    According to Tuor, there are now fewer Muslims coming into the country and more immigrants from European countries.

    Not first time

    This is not the first time that the People’s Party or groups allied to it have caused an outcry over the tone of their adverts.

    Last week anti-racism groups reacted angrily to a People’s Party advert against easing citizenship rules which showed a box full of Swiss passports and coloured hands trying to grab them.

    In November 2003, the People’s Party’s Zurich wing – the home branch of Justice Minister Christoph Blocher – was accused of running an inflammatory campaign during the run-up to a vote on whether to recognise non-Christian faiths in Zurich, including Islam.

    swissinfo, Isobel Leybold-Johnson

    http://www.swissinfo.org/sen/Swissin...11&sid=5194640

    Good news to hear. Knowing that a Bin Laden relative is there too, I think that is a good thing. When she was on American television she seemed so distrusting. Zionism and Arab filth is destroying all European nations. Those are the number one enemies of the world!!!

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    Mad Dysfunctional Muslim Domestics

    Getting Real about Islam and Domestic Violence

    By Robert Spencer


    FrontPageMagazine.com | October 15, 2004

    “My father said, ‘O.K., beat her.’ I’d never been beaten like that in all my life. My uncle and cousins were all beating me. ... They broke my head, and I was bleeding.”

    These are the words of Ellaha, a 19-year-old Afghan girl whom the intrepid New York Times pundit Nicholas Kristof encountered in a detention center for women in Kabul. Her crime was trying to flee Afghanistan rather than accept an arranged marriage to her cousin.

    In Kristof’s narrow and inextricably partisan little world, this, like everything else, is George W. Bush’s fault: “The entire jail” where Ellaha is incarcerated, he notes, “is a kaleidoscope of woe. It’s been two years since President Bush declared that in Afghanistan, ‘Today, women are free.’ But that’s news to the inmates.”



    Women do have a decidedly better situation in the new Afghanistan than they did under the radical Muslim Taliban regime: many have resumed their educations, and even some employment opportunities have opened up for them. But evidently Kristof and the Times expected Bush to wave his wand and remake Kabul into Manhattan, with burqas magically transformed into mini skirts and tongue piercings.



    But it’s likely that this latest round of Bush-bashing from Kristof, as ludicrous as it is, stems as much from an inability to look at the real source of Ellaha’s woes than from blind hatred for the incumbent. In his entire meditation on the beating and mistreatment of women in Afghanistan, the egregious Kristof of course never once mentions the Qur’an, with which Ellaha’s father, uncle, and cousins are doubtless deeply familiar. It stipulates: “Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them” (Sura 4:34). If, therefore, Ellaha’s male kin had reason to “fear rebellion” from her, they considered themselves completely within their rights to “scourge” her.



    This verse is not are not a thing of the past. In 2000 a retired Turkish Muslim cleric, Kemal Guran, sparked a controversy in that secularized Muslim nation with a passage in his booklet, The Muslim’s Handbook. According to the BBC, “the booklet, published by the Pious Foundation, which is part of the government’s Religious Affairs Directorate, says men can beat their wives as long as they do not strike the face and only beat them moderately.” Even a relatively moderate Muslim, Dr. Jamal Badawi, acknowledges that husbands have the right to beat their wives. Quoting Sura 4:34, Dr. Badawi doesn’t deny the prerogative, but he’s clearly embarrassed by it, and tries to explain it away: “Such a measure is more accurately described as a gentle tap on the body, but NEVER ON THE FACE, making it more of a symbolic measure then a punitive one.” (Emphasis in the original.)



    The problem with this “moderate” view, of course, is that the dividing line between “symbolic” and “punitive” can be exceedingly fine, and hard to find in the heat of the moment. Thus although you’d never learn it from Kristof, the divine sanction that the Qur’an and Islamic tradition give to violence against women is the core reason why domestic violence is epidemic in some parts of the Islamic world. The Pakistan Institute of Medical Sciences has determined that over nine out of ten Pakistani wives have been struck, beaten, or abused sexually — for offenses on the order of cooking an unsatisfactory meal. Others were punished for failing to give birth to a male child.


    Why didn’t Kristof say anything about this? Because it’s a lot easier to snipe at George Bush than to address deep societal dysfunction — but until these problems are faced and the Qur’anic sanctioning of woman-beating definitively rejected by significant elements of the Islamic community, Kristof will have material abundant enough to enable him to tweak Bush over jailed Afghan women for years to come. The plight of women like Ellaha won’t improve in a Kerry administration — even as, at least according to John Edwards, the blind will see, the deaf hear, and the lame walk. The superficiality of the liberal intelligentsia’s analysis, as represented by Kristof’s column, illustrates once again the bankruptcy of the entire multiculturalist enterprise — and underscores the West’s imperative to marshal its own spiritual resources, for the sake of women like Ellaha.

    Robert Spencer is the director of Jihad Watch and the author of Onward Muslim Soldiers: How Jihad Still Threatens America and the West (Regnery Publishing), and Islam Unveiled: Disturbing Questions About the World’s Fastest Growing Faith (Encounter Books).

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    Post Re: Dysfunctional Muslim Domestics

    Quote Originally Posted by Frans_Jozef
    It stipulates: “Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them” (Sura 4:34). If, therefore, Ellaha’s male kin had reason to “fear rebellion” from her, they considered themselves completely within their rights to “scourge” her.
    Barbarism, wrapped in a religious mantle....

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    Post In Europe, Muslim women speaking out against extremism risk backlash

    In Europe, Muslim women speaking out against extremism risk backlash

    By: ARTHUR MAX - Associated Press

    AMSTERDAM, Netherlands -- Novelist Yasmine Allas doesn't believe in happy endings. That's strange, considering her own unlikely road to success. The daughter of a wealthy army officer, she fled as a teenager from her repressive childhood in Somalia, where she had dreamed of becoming an actress, dating men, drinking wine and living the life she saw in movies.

    Now in the Netherlands, having gained an audience for her bleak stories of oppressed women and failed immigrants, she finds she still can't escape fear.

    Since the slaying of filmmaker Theo van Gogh last month in Amsterdam, there have been death threats against two prominent Muslim women -- politicians Ayaan Hirsi Ali in Holland and Mimount Bousakla in Belgium -- who have spoken out against repression in Islam.


    Allas, 35, is among a growing group of young women from Muslim backgrounds who are making it in politics, the arts, media or the law in Europe, and in some cases are putting themselves at the forefront of the fight against extremism from two directions -- Islamic fundamentalists and Europe's far-right fringe.

    From a television journalist in Italy to a standup comic in Norway, these women are speaking up in voices that may never have been heard had they remained in their native lands.

    In Somalia, says Allas, "If you are a girl, you always are in fear of your parents, your older brothers, your male neighbors. It is always the man ... It is always fear and fear and fear."

    Now her sister says she fears raising her small children here because of the heated anti-immigrant climate. Her two brothers have left the country.

    "When I came to Holland, for me it was, Whew! What freedom! What a country! It was love, immediately," she recalls.

    "But Holland is not the same."

    Nusrat Chagtai, a Muslim human rights lawyer of Pakistani origin who works in Birmingham, England, acknowledges that "we are very fortunate we have a lot more freedom." Yet the higher profile comes with risks.

    Fatima Elatik, deputy mayor of Amsterdam's heavily immigrant Zeeburg borough, was assigned bodyguards after receiving threats from a right-wing Dutch extremist after the Van Gogh killing.

    Since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks "there's been a lot of Muslim- and Islam-bashing in our society that really was very frightening," said Elatik, 31.

    She deals often with young immigrant men and women who want to be Dutch yet feel alien. Even though she wears a head scarf, she considers herself a modern, liberal Dutch woman.

    "What is typically Dutch? I don't look Dutch, I don't have a Dutch name. But I wear Dutch clothes. Even my scarf, my hijab, I buy in Dutch stores. What more do you want from me?"

    Elsewhere in Europe, some women confront the culture clash in unusual ways.

    In Norway, Pakistan-born Shabana Rehman uses humor. A women's rights activist and professional comedian, her stories -- told in saucy, slangy Norwegian -- focus on the taboos of Islam, and culture conflicts.

    "I go up on stage with texts from my own daily life. Openly, and with some wonder, I share with the public how I experience sexual and cultural expectations," she says on her Web site.

    In April, Rehman caused a stir during a televised debate on Islam attended by Mullah Krekar, the founder of suspected terror group Ansar al-Islam, who lives as a refugee in Norway.

    Rehman talked Krekar into allowing her to perform "a little test" on the stage to see if he was a fundamentalist. She grabbed him by the hips and lifted him.

    "A man who can be carried by a woman can't be a fundamentalist," said Rehman to howls of laughter. Krekar exploded with rage and threatened a lawsuit.

    In Italy, Rula Jebreal, 31, of Palestinian descent, anchors the late-night news on LA7, a national TV network. She sees Western freedoms as "absolutely compatible with the Muslim religion."

    She's also a critic of the Iraq war, to which Italy contributed troops. "When I criticized the war I received messages with insults and threats," she said.

    The suspect in the Nov. 2 killing of Van Gogh, 26-year-old Mohammed Bouyeri, wrote a five-page letter pledging that "Islam will celebrate victory with the blood of martyrs" and allegedly left it impaled on the knife in the filmmaker's chest.

    The letter explicitly threatened Hirsi Ali, a 35-year-old Somali-born Dutch politician who collaborated with Van Gogh on a film denouncing the treatment of Muslim women. She has not appeared in public since.

    A telegenic former refugee who describes herself as a "lapsed" Muslim, Hirsi Ali campaigned against Muslims who reject Dutch values such as gender equality and gay rights. She outraged the Muslim community by saying the Prophet Muhammad was a tyrant by today's standards, and by urging women to abandon their traditional veils or head scarfs.

    In Belgium, Mimount Bousakla, a 32-year-old senator of Moroccan origin who criticized a Muslim group for failing to condemn Van Gogh's murder received a telephone call threatening her with "ritual slaughter." Two years ago, Bousakla wrote a book, "Couscous with Belgian Fries," critical of forced marriages and the subjugation of Muslim women.

    She has continued working in the Senate, but stays away from home at night. A Belgian convert to Islam has been arrested and confessed to threatening Bousakla.

    It is in the Netherlands that the culture clash has been the most explosive -- perhaps because it was long obscured by the nation's fabled tolerance and progressive views.

    Since the Van Gogh slaying there have been some 20 arson attacks on mosques or Muslim schools, and apparent retaliatory attacks on churches.

    For years, anti-immigrant feelings were "fearfully repressed" by Dutch governments haunted by the Holocaust, when 70 percent of Holland's Jews were slaughtered by the Nazi death machine, said Meindert Fennema, a professor of political theory and ethnic relations at the University of Amsterdam. "These feelings were always there."

    AP correspondents Doug Mellgren in Oslo, Norway, Victor Simpson in Rome and Catherine McAloon in London contributed to this report.

    http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2004...3111_30_04.txt

    I hope the Muslim people go through hell in Europe. That is all I have to say. It does not sound very logic, BUT Arabs are animals. Arabs really had no reason to immigrate to Europe, nor America. Jews complain about TERROHHH, well they ask for it by living in OUR European nations.
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    Swedes Reach Muslim Breaking Point

    Swedes Reach Muslim Breaking Point

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,139614,00.html

    Friday, November 26, 2004

    By Steve Harrigan

    MALMO, Sweden Swedish authorities in the southern city of Malmo have been busy with a sudden influx of Muslim immigrants 90 percent of whom are unemployed and many who are angry and taking it out on the country that took them in.

    "If we park our car it will be damaged so we have to go very often in two vehicles, one just to protect the other vehicle," said Rolf Landgren, a Malmo police officer.

    Fear of violence has changed the way police, firemen and emergency workers do their jobs.

    There are some neighborhoods Swedish ambulance drivers will not go to without a police escort. Angry crowds have threatened them, telling them which patient to take and which ones to leave behind.

    Because Sweden has some of the most liberal asylum laws in Europe, one quarter of Malmo's 250,000 population is now Muslim, changing the face and the idea of what it means to be Swedish. Asylum seekers may bring spouses, brothers and grandparents with them. Civil servants say the city is swamped.

    "You have 1,000 students in a Swedish school. How many are Swedes? Two," said Lars Birgersson, principal of the Rosengrad School.

    Students arrive at age 10 or 12 from countries like Iraq, Iran and Lebanon with no knowledge of Swedish; some have never been to school at all and many classes require interpreters.

    Still, more than half won't graduate.

    "They are not a part of Swedish society, so to speak. It is difficult for them to get inside society," said Torsten Elofsson of the Malmo Police Department.

    However, they are the most rapidly growing segment of Swedish society outsiders who are already inside, posing a challenge to legendary Swedish tolerance that has now been stretched to the breaking point.

    Malmo's main mosque was recently set ablaze by arsonists. When firefighters arrived on the scene, they were attacked by stone throwers.

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