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    Re: The Big Bang Theory and God

    If there is such a thing as a black hole it could be associated most definetly with Hela, the Fenris wolf, the Midgard serpent, and you name it.( Even the Fimbulvinter). With joining Odin during Ragnarok as Einherjar one "defeats/dances with wyrd" this "black hole" ( Hela's house ) and rises anew as "bright as" Balder. Or even goes into space and fights off the incoming "giants" and saves the world. And as far as the similarity with "the Jesus story" goes..that is obvious. I doubt it's psychological impact in whichever way one dresses it up can be questioned..in regard to the "adventures of the heroes".

    But that brings up the question just who is that "hero" , or better yet what led to us associating ourselves with such and why? (..and can you believe how it ended up sometimes.?.) Some have suggested it's Mars climbing up the axix mundi and mating with Venus among other things during some time when the planets where aligned differently ultimately resulting in cataclismic conditions in which it would seem a "new world" was created. Thus providing an actual scientific observation for the mythological motiffs from all over the place and if one was really out there they might could say ."What if during a time when the worlds were aligned differently the same astrological forces which mess with us today did so in a much closer way, when the gods walked amonst us, fashioning the very psychological forces of Father, Mother, and Son (..Saturn, Venus, and Mars..)(..sounds like Freud) even before the dawn of our very conciousness when we got along with the animals pretty well as in paradise..because we were one( sounds like Jung )..and the subsequent cataclisms to follow created Man with all his messed up notions all seeking to get back in harmony with the universe ..and here we are..the heroes of the day..ordering the universe and keeping the sky from falling...".

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    Re: The Big Bang Theory and God

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyfing View Post
    If there is such a thing as a black hole it could be associated most definetly with Hela, the Fenris wolf, the Midgard serpent, and you name it.( Even the Fimbulvinter). With joining Odin during Ragnarok as Einherjar one "defeats/dances with wyrd" this "black hole" ( Hela's house ) and rises anew as "bright as" Balder. Or even goes into space and fights off the incoming "giants" and saves the world.
    -Lyfing
    I agree.
    I identify the blackhole with Nifelheim. Or Mistheim which literally is "Gas Chamber". The abode of Death of Hela/Loki, gravity, darkness and Fimbulwinter/Frost giants verses the Sun/big bang which is Fire jotuns. In between is spirits/tivar/asgard.

    I like your analogy of Einherjar (Solitary warriors of God/Odin) who like Wotan, ride Irminsul, ride cosmos for eternity (thus eternal life having pleasure with war and women (valkeries)) who dance around this Black hole while apostates get sucked into Hel and die.

    Be tru and have eternal pleasure, be untru, fail the test of life and die (as the wyrd sisters (past memory/Skuld/Debt) will record your life, and Odin judges it in Urd. You do not have to convert anyone, you have to be tru and better yet, connected to the Ases. Once connected, you go to the ases after death. The strongest Godman has more power. Heirarchy of power in the cosmos. So gain your Godpower, then have control over your destiny. Those who are atheists, foreigners, "evil doers" get judged and reincarnate, exterminated or tortured.

    From a self interest standpoint, it is best to be the highest aryan godman, building your mind/body/soul. This puts you in your place in the cosmos. People w/o a soul, or those that give their soul away (giving it to "Jesus" or a state) are slaves when they die.

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    Re: The Big Bang Theory and God

    "Three roots of the tree uphold it and stand exceeding broad: one is among the Æsír; another among the Rime-Giants, in that place where aforetime was the Yawning Void; the third stands over Niflheim, and under that root is Hvergelmir, and Nídhöggr gnaws the root from below. But under that root which turns toward the Rime-Giants is Mímir's Well, wherein wisdom and understanding are stored; and he is called Mímir, who keeps the well. He is full of ancient lore, since he drinks of the well from the Gjallar-Horn....The third root of the Ash stands in heaven; and under that root is the well which is very holy, that is called the Well of Urdr; there the gods hold their tribunal.." -Prose Edda, Brodeur trans.

    If we look at the life of Yggdrasil as the life of the world then the roots of life are "fed" by ( divine ) consciousness from Asgard, ( the experience of ) matter from Mimir's well, and ( the apparent harmonius ) forms consciousness takes in matter, which of course sprang from Hvergelmir.

    "In Eldhrimnir Andhrimnir cooks
    Sæhrimnir’s seething flesh,-
    The best of food, but few men know
    On what fare the warriors feast."

    "Eldhrimnir - 'Sooty with Fire', kettle of Valhall, Andhrimnir - 'Sooty-Faced', the cook who prepares the boar Saehrimnir - 'The Blackened'." -Grimnismol 18, Bellows trans.

    Sooty with Fire is Hverlgelmir " the seething cauldron" where Sooty-Faced, the conscious cook boils The Blackened. From Hvergelmir Audhumbla "licked" Buri. From Ymir the Sons of the Son of Buri fashioned the world. Odin sacrificed his eye to join a giant in experience. "Thither came Allfather and craved one drink of the well; but he got it not until he had laid his eye in pledge. So says Voluspa:

    All know I, Odin, where the eye thou hiddest,
    In the wide-renowned well of Mímir;
    Mímir drinks mead every morning
    From Valfather's wage. Wit ye yet, or what?" -Prose Edda, Brodeur trans.

    The story of Hermod going to see Rossthiof "horse thief" on Sleipnir to bind him and make him talk about the death of Balder and the vengence of Vali seems to be the same idea as Odin drinking from Mimir's well. As are the stories where a god takes on a giant in a competion of wits to learn thier experience..( or Bor marries Bestla ) only to kill them and fasion a new world ( as if ).

    -Lyfing

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    Re: The Big Bang Theory and God

    I view Irminsul as Consciousness or God (tivar). From Urd, which is being, or the present, Odin is. Existence is the expression of Runes, or rede/rita ideas (rune syllables).

    Mimir's well is the past or Skuld (fate). Mimir means memory and Mimir is Munin, the eagle which remembers the past. The present if Hugr (Thought/Urd) which is the raven Hugin. Odin's wolves represent time. They are the devours of being. Devours of energy for life takes energy consumption (food) to live.

    Aryans or Guthiuda (godpeople) are born from Rig son of Odin (Being/Mind) and become Gods by following the godway/godvegr/ariowegaz, which is what Odin did when he incarnates. He sacrificed himself TO himself. Hung on Irminsul to gain wisdom (mimer's well, well of the past), thus Odin became a full god. Every aryan/odinist, must do the same to gain full godhood and sit at the highest abode after death. Remember, that there are different abodes which coincides with race, which is a beings physico/sprito/mental substance. Like goes with like. Thus, estates, and hierarchy of estates (Rigsthula).

    Like you, I see the black hole as Nifelheim/Hvergelmir /Jotunheim/Matter/Darkness, the white hole as Muspelheim/Mimir/Fire/Pure Will/Energy and inbetween as Urd/Odin/Logos/logi/asgard/Irminsu/Tyr/Frey/Ing/Mannus.


    Being or God/Mind is from Urd/Urminsul.

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