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    Post Your Thoughts on Pope John Paul II

    Your Thoughts On Pope John Paul. I've been hearing some negative things about him from certain Catholics on Skadi. And I want to know why?

    I always thought John Paul to be a Crusading Saint.

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    Post Re: Your Thoughts On Pope John Paul

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern_Paladin
    Your Thoughts On Pope John Paul. I've been hearing some negative things about him from certain Catholics on Skadi. And I want to know why?

    I always thought John Paul to be a Crusading Saint.

    He's a fool and a philoSemite, among other things.

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    Post Re: Your Thoughts On Pope John Paul

    In order to understand the objections, you have to understand the reforms of the Second Vatican Council, and how they stand in relation to traditional Catholicism. The reforms are in many ways a striking departure from the Catholicism of the preceeding 19 centuries. John Paul II, whilst conservative in some areas (Divorce, Contraception, etc), still carries on the reforms of Vatican II with gusto and is probably it's most enthusiastic proponent to date.

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    The Papal Bull Cum ex apostolatus officio of Pope Paul IV teaches that: if anyone was a heretic before the Papal election, he could not be a valid pope, even if he is elected unanimously by the Cardinals.

    Canon 188.4 (1917 Code of Canon Law) teaches that : if a cleric (pope, bishop, etc.) becomes a heretic, he loses his office without any declaration by operation of law.

    St. Robert Bellarmine, St. Antonius, St. Francis deSales, St. Alphonsus Liguori, and many other tehologians all teach that a heretic cannot be a pope: "If however, God were to permit a pope to become a notoriously and contumacious heretic he would by such fact cease to be pope, and the apostolic chair would be vacant." -- St. Alphonsus Liguori, Church Doctor: Verita bella Fede. Pt. iii, Ch.viii, 9-10.

    Some heresies by John Paul II:

    John Paul II:
    Heretical sects have an apostolic mission.
    L'Osservatore Romano, 06/10/1980

    Leo XIII:
    The Catholic Church is the only apostolic mission.
    Satis Cognitum:35

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    John Paul II:
    We must pray with heretics for unity.
    Ut Unum Sint:21, 05/25/1995

    St. Agatho I:
    If anyone prays with heretics, he is a heretic.
    Sacrorum Conciliorium:XXI:635

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    John Paul II:
    The New World Order is needed for the world.
    Path to Peace:809, 09/02/1981

    Benedict XV:
    The New World Order is a reign of terror.
    The Brotherhood Religion: Is it Anti-Christian?:35

    And there are plenty of others to fill the list.
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    Post Re: Your Thoughts On Pope John Paul

    The Pope is a very good person and one of the artisans of the fall of communism. I bear him a special respect.

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    Post Re: Your Thoughts On Pope John Paul

    Quote Originally Posted by marius
    The Pope is a very good person
    Being a good person doesn't exactly make a good Pope.
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    Post Re: Your Thoughts On Pope John Paul

    Quote Originally Posted by Johannes de León
    Being a good person doesn't exactly make a good Pope.
    Why wouldn't he be a good Pope? I see, you are a Fundamentalist Catholic, typical for Southern Europe.

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    Post Re: Your Thoughts On Pope John Paul

    Quote Originally Posted by marius
    Why wouldn't he be a good Pope?
    I think Vatican II shows it clearly.
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    Post Re: Your Thoughts On Pope John Paul

    Quote Originally Posted by Johannes de León
    The Papal Bull Cum ex apostolatus officio of Pope Paul IV teaches that: if anyone was a heretic before the Papal election, he could not be a valid pope, even if he is elected unanimously by the Cardinals.

    Canon 188.4 (1917 Code of Canon Law) teaches that : if a cleric (pope, bishop, etc.) becomes a heretic, he loses his office without any declaration by operation of law.

    St. Robert Bellarmine, St. Antonius, St. Francis deSales, St. Alphonsus Liguori, and many other tehologians all teach that a heretic cannot be a pope: "If however, God were to permit a pope to become a notoriously and contumacious heretic he would by such fact cease to be pope, and the apostolic chair would be vacant." -- St. Alphonsus Liguori, Church Doctor: Verita bella Fede. Pt. iii, Ch.viii, 9-10.

    Some heresies by John Paul II:

    John Paul II:
    Heretical sects have an apostolic mission.
    L'Osservatore Romano, 06/10/1980

    Leo XIII:
    The Catholic Church is the only apostolic mission.
    Satis Cognitum:35

    ----------

    John Paul II:
    We must pray with heretics for unity.
    Ut Unum Sint:21, 05/25/1995

    St. Agatho I:
    If anyone prays with heretics, he is a heretic.
    Sacrorum Conciliorium:XXI:635

    ----------

    John Paul II:
    The New World Order is needed for the world.
    Path to Peace:809, 09/02/1981

    Benedict XV:
    The New World Order is a reign of terror.
    The Brotherhood Religion: Is it Anti-Christian?:35

    And there are plenty of others to fill the list.
    If John Paul II is such a Heretic. How did he get elected Pope by the College of Cardinals?

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    Post Re: Your Thoughts On Pope John Paul

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern_Paladin
    If John Paul II is such a Heretic. How did he get elected Pope by the College of Cardinals?
    Jewish Mafia who controls everything...

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