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    Post Where did the Swedes come from?

    http://www.osterholm.info/swedes.html

    ''There is strong evidence that Swedish predecessors were migratory Thracians, an aggressive refugee "boat-people" who first came from the ancient city of Troy. Located in northwest Asia Minor (present-day northwest Turkey), ''

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    Post Re: Where did the Swedes come from?

    As I once mentioned, and everyone laughed at me.... Scandinavians came from the Balkans

    I don't understand why they mention Thracians at all, because I think these migrations happened earlier, but... I think it's the only logical migration route.

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    Post Re: Where did the Swedes come from?

    Interesting.Hm, Svianar.Reminds me of svinjar(swine-herder) in Slavic.I assume it's the same in Germanic? No offence to anyone,just playing with words here



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    Post Re: Where did the Swedes come from?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Solar Wolff
    This is an interesting article. It seems to rely on a lot of name-play. Also, the date for the Trojan war was about 1350 B.C. wasn't it? That places it far back in this chronology. This history of the Swedes moves right along and somehow reminds me of Robert Howard's "Hyporborean Age".
    The date for the the Trojan war is unknown, it depends both on chronology and on the level which you associate with the Trojan war.

    (And the language of Troy is usually thought to be Luwian, and certainly not Thracian.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Awar
    As I once mentioned, and everyone laughed at me.... Scandinavians came from the Balkans
    Do you see a resemblance between Dan-aeans and... Danish people??

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    Post Re: Where did the Swedes come from?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alkman
    Do you see a resemblance between Dan-aeans and... Danish people??

    Interesting article.
    One if the ancient peoples who settled in Ireland were the Tuatha De Danaan who were supposed to have come by way of from Greece. The Milesians (the last ancient invaders who brought Gaelic culture) were allegedly from Scythia, and the Picts were allegedly from Thrace.

    Quote Originally Posted by Liber Brittanica
    The Cruithnians came from the land of Thracia; they are the race of Gueleon, son of Ercal Hercules. Agathyrsi was their name. Six brothers of them came at first, viz., Solen, Ulfa, Nechtan, Drostan, Aengus, Leithenn. The cause of their coming was this, viz, Policornus, king of Thrace, fell in love with their sister, and proposed to take her without giving a dower. They after this passed across the Roman territory into France and built a city there, viz., Pictavis, called a pictis, i. e. from their arms. And the king of France fell in love with their sister.


    I couldn't help but smile at this line though -

    The term Scandia comes from the descendants of Ashkenaz (grandson of Noah in the Bible). Known as the Askaeni, they were the first peoples to migrate to northern Europe, naming the land Ascania after themselves. Latin writers and Greeks called the land Scandza or Scandia (now Scandinavia). Germanic tribes, such as the Teutons and Goths, are considered the descended tribes of the Askaeni and their first settlements
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    Post Re: Where did the Swedes come from?

    Quote Originally Posted by Euclides
    http://www.osterholm.info/swedes.html

    ''There is strong evidence that Swedish predecessors were migratory Thracians, an aggressive refugee "boat-people" who first came from the ancient city of Troy. Located in northwest Asia Minor (present-day northwest Turkey), ''
    This is not history but meta-history and needs to be treated as such. I don`t know why it is so difficult to accept that Swedes originated from Scandinavia/Germania. Why do we continuously look for an extra-European homeland for the Aryan race?

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    Post Re: Where did the Swedes come from?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alkman
    Do you see a resemblance between Dan-aeans and... Danish people??
    Etymology of Denmark (translated from German)

    When the Angles of Jutes moved to England 400 AD they left a widely unoccupied land behind them. Scandinavians from the north moved forward and called it



    • Danmǫrk > Dänemark

      Mark
      means 'borderland'
    and themselves

    • Danir > Danes, lat. Dani (Jordanes 3)
    It's not far fetched to relate the country's name to

    • mnd. dan, mhd. tan 'forrest'
    just compare it to the neighbouring region in Germany

    • Holstein < Holsten (Pl.) < Holcete <*holt-satjas 'forrest dwellers'.

      Adam von Bremen 2,15 "Holcetae dicti a silvis quas accolunt = The Holsteiner are named after the forrests in which they live."
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    Post Re: Where did the Swedes come from?

    Quote Originally Posted by AryanKrieger
    This is not history but meta-history and needs to be treated as such. I don`t know why it is so difficult to accept that Swedes originated from Scandinavia/Germania. Why do we continuously look for an extra-European homeland for the Aryan race?
    Because Aryan means extra-European. What is European for you? When and where was the first "European" human born? And how? Was he made by some Divinity? And if not, how did he arrived to be pale, since the believed first man found was not White and there is no relation to non-Whites, worse, non-Aryans?
    Last edited by Marius; Sunday, October 31st, 2004 at 01:59 PM.

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