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Thread: Should All White Racial Patriots Consolidate in the US?

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    Post Should All White Racial Patriots Consolidate in the US?

    Consider this: what freedoms we have left in the u.s. are more than what is left in Canada, Europe, and Australia. Those who move here can do so much more good for reaching our goals. We have the right to adequately defend ourselves here, to speak our minds, to distribute literature, etc.

    Maybe men and women here marrying women and men from elsewhere would be a good idea. It gives foreign-born WNs citizenship and also builds our presence here in the u.s.

    To those who point to the erosion of our freedom here in the u.s.:
    1) It cannot become absolute until they go door-to-door and take guns from people.
    2) Despite this erosion, the situation is the best in the u.s.

    In Europe, what good can one do fighting for white survival? Not only does the u.s. have the most freedom, but it has the most power. If we can take the u.s. by completely legal and peaceful means, as these are the only means I openly condone, then we will have the strongest country on earth on our side, and our future will be safe. On the other hand, if we take some small country in Europe, israel will always be a threat, as will stronger eastern powers like china.
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    I would rather take Europe then the States. More support in Europe. People are not as brainwashed as here. As for there still being freedom in America....true if you dont SEE/TALK/LISTEN
    then you will have a good time. Otherwise remember Ruby Ridge , Waco etc. and tell me those dead people had freedom to live how they wanted. EUROPE is the last stronghold .More people talk openly about muds etc.

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    Europe is the land of our ancestors. America is just some place we conquered and made into a nation. It lacks the vast history that Europe has....it lacks the castles, the monuments, etc. I feel no tie to North American land. Canada has beautiful forests and plains and lakes...but there is no feeling attatched to it for me. I would not want to take America over Europe. That would be giving up way too much. I dont find it very realistic that we could accomplish anything there, anyway.

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    I would rather take Europe then the States. More support in Europe. People are not as brainwashed as here.
    Is that why it is a criminal offense to question racial equality in most western European countries? Why do you think Zündel ended up living in the US? I believe that Eastern Europe is our best shot, since they are economically disadvantaged and know it is entirely the fault of Jews; they have no "anti-hate" laws or regulations; they are unstable enough that a Racialist political coup is quite possible. The United States would come in second as the best place to take a stand, IMO. We do have a few tattered shreds of our Constitutional rights remaining; the most important are obviously the First and Second Amendments. Try as they may, the controlled media and government has not fully eroded what the founders erected. In the US, though, media and politics are COMPLETELY controlled. In Europe, parties are much more scattered and competitive, so there are several moderately racialist parties arising/gaining seats. However, because Western European governments almost always operate by coalition, it is nearly impossible for a racialist leader, once elected, to do much good by himself. The odds of getting a majority in our favor in any Western European nation are slim to say the least. What I am saying is that in the EU nations, *little* breakthroughs happen relatively often, but we are not going to get that one decisive victory that will propel us into a position of influence, at least not that I can see. In the US, achieving ANY breakthrough is more difficult, but if one were to come, it would be HUGE. One new party bucking the system and landing several key gubernatorial and senatorial positions would be enough to start turning the tide in our favor. Once whites in America saw that others were voting for our candidates, they would as well. Again, I believe that our two hopes are Eastern Europe and the US. Western Europe is simply beyond redemption at this point without intervention from an outside racialist force. If a Racialist government arose either in the US or Russia, we could easily liberate Western Europe.

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    Absolutely not! The freedoms that you speak of do not really exist except on paper and in the hopeful minds of many Americans. I believe (this is my personal opinion nothing more) that US nationalism has hurt the forward progress of our cause in the long run and until such a time as the racial patriots in the US realize they are in as sad a shape as the rest of us in regards to 'hate' laws, we will continue to spin our wheels and go in circles. We must fight for our race above all and not for some imaginary line on a map. Our race is our nation and we must secure the existance of our people and a future for White children. That is of the utmost concern. Nothing else.

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    Originally posted by mav0ric
    Absolutely not! The freedoms that you speak of do not really exist except on paper and in the hopeful minds of many Americans. I believe (this is my personal opinion nothing more) that US nationalism has hurt the forward progress of our cause in the long run and until such a time as the racial patriots in the US realize they are in as sad a shape as the rest of us in regards to 'hate' laws, we will continue to spin our wheels and go in circles. We must fight for our race above all and not for some imaginary line on a map. Our race is our nation and we must secure the existance of our people and a future for White children. That is of the utmost concern. Nothing else.
    I do not mean "let's fight for the u.s."
    I do mean let's fight zog by taking advantage of u.s. laws. There is a big difference. By the way, I hate what the u.s. has become, and to me, my race is much more important.

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    Mad Re: Should all white racial patriots consolidate in the u.s.?

    America is the Great Satan.

    Most Americans are very stupid when compared to Europeans. It makes me sick to call myself American. I'm glad to be leaving this country soon.

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    Where are you going? Please don't say Canada.

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    Post Re: Re: Should all white racial patriots consolidate in the u.s.?

    Originally posted by ladygoeth33
    America is the Great Satan.

    Most Americans are very stupid when compared to Europeans. It makes me sick to call myself American. I'm glad to be leaving this country soon.
    Overall, I like you as a fellow racialist. I sincerely hope that wherever you go to does not get nuked by israel for being too white, too weak (militarily), and too close to them.

    I wish you the best.

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    Post WAKE UP PEOPLE

    Excuse me for pointing out the obvious, but kike survival (worldwide) hinges on their control of the u.s. Why do you think they are so petrified of WNs in the u.s.? If we wrest control of the u.s. from the jews, they are finished. If we do not accomplish this, then we are all finished. It is that simple.

    I urge all WNs worldwide to come here. If you have a significant other with you whereever you are, bring him or her with you and try your best to become citizens. If you do not have a significant other, then meet a nice WN of the opposite sex here in the u.s. who you would be willing to marry and spend your life with. To WNs who have significant others who are foreign nationals: invite them here and marry them. Just ask NP88, it worked for her.

    So that there is no further misunderstanding (e.g. that I love the u.s.):

    I HATE THE U.S.

    AND

    I WANT TO USE THE U.S. TO SECURE THE EXISTENCE OF OUR RACE.

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