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    Quote Originally Posted by SaxonPagan View Post
    You surely can't be surprised by this though, FS

    The USA, Britain, Canada, Australia, Holland & Norway were all involved (for various durations) in the war against Germany.
    Well, like Finland, Romania also fought on the same side as Germany, under Antonescu. They got back Basarabia from the Soviet occupation, and continued fighting on the Eastern front after that. Antonescu was highly criticized for that, he kept the Romanian army fighting on the Eastern front until some traitors sold the country to the Russians. My relatives who fought in WW2 fought on Germany's side. After the war ended the communists wanted to deport my great-grandfather to a concentration camp in Russia because he fought against the Soviet Union... My great-grandmother made great efforts to keep him home, the family had some good relations with some important local people, so she gathered their signatures in order to not deport him. They were after all the Germans at that time...

    At the end of the war some traitors took Romania out of the alliance with Germany and they also killed Antonescu, who was an important allied for Hitler, and a very good military strategist. They also gave Basarabia and other territories almost for free to the Soviet Union, despite all the lives lost to have these territories back as parts of Romania...
    Die Farben duften frisch und grün... Lieblich haucht der Wind um mich.

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    Can you imagine the carnage on Skadi if there was ever another European war on anything like the same scale as WW2

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    Moscow 1942


    Tehran 1943


    Yalta 1945

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    Wow, which one of those is your relative, FS?

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    My grandfather got shipped off to fight the japs in the pacific. He was to German to fight in Europe.
    They were afraid German Americans would fight for the other side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaxonPagan View Post
    Wow, which one of those is your relative, FS?
    None. All are my enemies.

    Brought these three into my mind:


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_t..._Cardamom_Town

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    Great-Grandfather and his 2 brothers were in the Wehrmacht, his brothers got sent to fight in the east and made it out alive.

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    My mom’s father was a cook for the Nazis.

    My great uncles on my dad’s side were in the US Navy.

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    Dad's Mum's Dad was a RI pilot in the Pacific and my home state still observes Victory Over Japan Day, as we were very involved in that theatre. Some uncles and cousins of older generations were in one branch of service or another, but I wasn't told any stories about them. When my great-grandparents left England for New England, they had done so over infant mortality and the last thing they wanted was to be mixed up in the Great War, so I'm happy that my family hadn't taken that much part in WWII.

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    One of my great grandfathers and a great granduncle fought in WWII for the German side. I didn't get to know them however. The great granduncle was sent to a forced labour camp in the Soviet Union and my family never heard from him again. Presumably he died. In 1945, between 60.000 to 95.000 ethnic Germans were forcefully deported to the Soviet Union. All ethnic German men between the ages of 17 and 45 and women between the ages of 18 and 30 were supposed to be deported, with the exception of pregnant women, women with children less than a year old and persons unable to work. In practice however they deported people who were under or over the age limit. At least 3.000 of these deportees died before release. Some of the peoples who heard about the abuses from others lived in fear and hid themselves at friends or relatives' places, instead of reporting voluntarily. Some peoples were spared from the deportation, the key was to have relations and know someone you could trust to hide you. Also some rich peoples, skilled and industrial workers were spared because of economic reasons. My great grandfather and his family managed to avoid the deportation, but the same didn't happen to his brother, who was put on a train and that was the last time my family heard of him. Peoples seldom got letters from their relatives and friends in the concentration camps, sometimes the letters took years to arrive if at all. Some peoples were released late from the camps, as late as 1953. Some peoples died shortly after coming home. My great grandfather died some time after the war too, my grandparents said the war experience and loss of his brother took him into his grave early.

    Unfortunately the Romanian government, despite saying they were surprised by these things, cooperated with the deportations. When they saw that peoples didn't report voluntarily, the Romanian gendarmerie would take them from their homes, often in the middle of the night, to avoid scandals and sensationalism. The state railway (CFR) was also directly involved in transportation of the deportees, sometimes in cattle carts. When the ethnic Germans sought help from politicians, they were referred to the Soviet orders. But the Soviet's vengeful intentions towards the ethnic Germans were already widely known by then. Despite Romania's switching of sides, they considered the Saxon and Swabian population living there an enemy. Even civilians were stigmatised as "Nazis" and made into scapegoats. So it was a very difficult time to live in, as ethnic German minorities. One of the most regrettable consequences of these deportations was the disappearance of the best part of middle-class intellectuals, which made the German community of Romania lesser equipped against the communist ideology.

    My grandparents told me many stories about WWII, including how they hid and fled the Russians. The Russians would sometime come in the rural area and take over people's houses, camp and sleep there and use their produce (crops, animals), of course without asking permission. They would also become violent and take women by the force. Food was scarce and life was rough. Peoples lived in constant fear. When I think back to those stories, I consider myself lucky to live in such times, despite all the negative things that come with this era.

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