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    fact is Swastika is a Sanskrit word it's the Aryan sun wheel and u can see it all around India painted on houses in red or saffron,its a sign of god luck.

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    We were in India thousands of years ago.

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    "The word "Aryan" is possibly not always the best idea. As HF Gunther, the leading Nazi racial theorist himself said, the word is misunderstood and misused. The original Aryans were a tribe of Indo-Europeans who moved eastwards towards Iraq, Iran and India, and their racial cousins who moved west were called Slavs, Celts, Germans and Balts."

    The word "White" is not the best idea. We are still Indo-Europeans. Most of the British Isle is Celtic. Scandinavia is Nordic. And so on. Look at NordicPower88's picture where we have been. The Chinese couldnt have built the "Great Wall Of China." The Aryan Race is the creator of Chinese, Mexican and Aztec Civilizations. Which are now bastardized. The Japanese do have "White" blood in them, because we were there first. You need to read "White Race — Creators of Chinese, Mexican and Aztec Civilizations" by Ben Klassen here:

    http://www.overthrow.com/creator/ner/ner-1-04.asp

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    I don't see a need for "white" people to take credit for the Aztec, Chinese and Mexican civilizations.

    To prove caucasians in South America some DNA/anthropological evidence would be helpful. Caucasoid features in South America are easily explained by admixture with the Spanish. Unmixed South American Indians are genetically closest to the Chukchi, Inuit and Aleuts. North American Indians are also descended from these people.

    Here is a man from Inner Mongolia who has a large nose and looks like a Native American:



    The Swastika is not a "pure Aryan" symbol, and using swastikas found in different parts of the world to map out former "white civilizations" is ludicrous.

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    "Aryan" truely only refers to one specific 'family' of Indo-Europeans, those being the Indo-Aryans. During the late 19th/early 20th centuries, Anthropologists began using the term to refer to all branches of the Indo-European linguistic/racial group...acknowledging as they did so that they were technically misusing the word.
    If we take 'Aryan" to mean racially "Indo-European" , this in NO WAY implies that all - or even most - 'Europids' are Aryan.
    The question becomes: "Who were the Indo-Europeans"? At one point they were a racially homogenous group...before spreading out and becoming Germanics, and Slavs, and Balts, and so on, and then 'Indo-Europeanizing' the various 'white' groups they came in contact with.
    Depending on the theory, it would seem that the Indo-Europeans were:
    1) The Hallstatt Nordic race
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    2) The Battle Axe/Corded-Ware race

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    Interesting to know more about that body the found in Washington state that looked like Jean Luc Picard.

    Lovecraft wrote a story about the original Aryan inhabitants of North America being invaded by Asiatics. Wonder if the old boy knew more than his contemporaries.

    Can't remember name of the story, is it Doom that came to Celeaphis or something like that? Something about an unlucky star making some sentry sleep... years since I read it.
    "Only through a re-integration of Humanity into the whole of Nature can our People be made stronger."

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    Are you thinking of 'The Doom That Came to Sarnath'?

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    Cool The Origins of Aryan People

    By: M. Sadeq Nazmi-Afshar


    I am Dariush, the great king, the king of kings
    The king of many countries and many peoples
    The king of this expansive land,
    The son of Wishtaspa of Achaemenid,
    Persian, the son of a Persian,
    'Aryan', from the Aryan race
    "From the Darius the Great's Inscription in Naqshe-e-Rostam"



    he above scripture is one of most valid written evidences of the history of the Aryan race, and as can be seen, Darius I (Dariush in persian), the Achaemenian king, in the 5th century BCE, declares himself a Persian and form the Aryan race. Herodotus, the father of history, writes (in his book: "History of Herodotus") at the same times: "In ancient times, the Greeks called Iranians "Kaffe", but they were renowned as Aryans among themselves and their neighbors". In another part of his book, Herodotus writes that the Medians were known as Aryans during a certain period. So in two of the oldest written human documents, the race of the Iranians have been mentioned as Aryan.

    On the other hand, in many contemporary books, one reads that the Aryans were not original residents of the land of Iran, and that they migrated to Iran from Central Asia or somewhere in the north of Europe. The point is that if some of the oldest written records of the human history confirm that the residents of the Iranian Plateau were Aryans, why should some claim otherwise?

    We will discuss the origins of the Iranian race, and we will try to shed light on some unknown corners of history, which has been mixed with ignorance and lies.

    We want to extract the facts out of centuries and millennia and out of paleontological studies, old and new, to prove that Iran is the original land of the Aryan race, that this people has never migrated to any other land, and it has defended its homelands for centuries on end.

    There are all numerous reasons that the Aryan race has undergone its evolution from the primitive man to the white man in the Iranian Plateau. These reasons can be categorized as historical, geographical, mythological, anthropological and linguistically.

    Against the reasons we will discuss, no valid evidence has been produced to prove that the Aryans migrated from Central Asia or any other place to Iran. What European historians have written in this regard is based on unscientific and unproven hypotheses influenced by anti-Iranian and political ideas.

    The reason for the migration of Aryans from Iran to other places of the world should be searched in climatic events. At the end of Ice Age, as a result of excessive rainfall on the Alborz and Zagros Mountains and the melting of the ice accumulated on the mountains, the rivers flowing through the Iranian Plateau were much larger than they are today. Therefore there was a large lake in the place where to day is the Central Desert. One of the most interesting mythological texts says in this regard:

    "...In the second phase of the creation of the world, Ahura Mazda created the waters, and the waters flowed towards Farakhekrat Sea which covers one third of the world from the southern outskirts of Alborz." With the continuous warming of the earth and the decrease in rainfall, this lake gradually dried up and the peoples living around it, who had a common language and Aryan culture, was forced to migrate from Iran. The routes of this great migration are an evidence for the central position of Iran, for the Aryan peoples have set Iran as the center and set out on migration in any direction.

    As a matter of fact, many Western historians have declined to accept the politicized version of history, admitting that Iran was the origin of the Aryan race.

    Hegel writes in his book The Philosophy of history: "The principle of evolution begins with the history of Iran". Another prominent orientologist says that: A large part of our cu ltural and material legacy was unveiled in southwestern Asia the center of which was Iran." Petri, in a famous speech, said that "When Egypt had only just begun the art of pottery, the people of Susa (in Iran) were painting beautiful pictures on ceramics." this shows that the Iranian civilization was 3,000 years ahead of that of Egypt, dating back at least to 12,000 years ago. In other words, when Central Asia was totally buried under thick layers of ice, Iranians were creating pictures on earthenware, which indicates their art and creativity.

    Considering the existence of this 12,000 years-old civilization in Iran, would it not be unlikely that 6,000 years ago, a group of people spontaneously crossed the ice covered Siberian lands, suddenly wiping such a civilization off the earth. The word Aryan has roots in world that Iranians called themselves by Ayria, meaning free, noble and steady. The world Iran is derived from this very root, having been transformed from to A yran Iran, meaning the land of the Aryans. This is the most ancient term applied to the Iranian Plateau, and such a term has never been detected anywhere else in the world, e.g. Europe or Turkistan.

    The myth of Aryan's migration to Iran implies that a people have come to Iran from a remote land, giving their name to an already inhabited land which had no name, and that no trace of their name has been remained in their name has been remained in their original homeland. In historical records, Central Asia has been mentioned as the land of Sakas, Masagets, Touran, Soghd, Kharazm, Khiveh, and Turkistan, none of which words has any relation to the word Aryan.

    Paleontology is one of the sciences that confirm the formation of the white race in Ian. The Homo sapiens evolved from its Neanderthal ancestors in a 30,000- year process between 50,000 to 20,000 years ago. In the Hutu and Kamarband caves near Behshahr, Iran, bones of men from different historical periods hav e been found, showing that a kind of human race has continuously dwelled in this area and evolved, meaning that there has been no migration.

    In Babylonian and Assyrian sources, one of the largest ancient Iranian tribes has been mentioned as Kas Su, Kassi and Kashi, which in ancient languages and also in the modern language of the people of Gilan means fair-eyed and fair-faced. The name of central city of Kashan (Kassan) is a relic of this ancient Aryan tribe. Many relics of the Kassi tribe has also been found in the Khorramabad region, including paintings in the cave of Dusheh which date back to 15,000 BC. In these paintings, people can be seen riding horses. This is a very valid evidence against the erroneous theories which say that the Aryans brought the horse form Central Asia to Iran around 4,000 BC. Like its ancient riders, the horse is indigenous to Iran since at least 17,000 years ago.

    Geology and meteorology confirm the evolution of man in the Iranian Plateau. The supporters of the theory of the migration of the Aryans from the north to Iran assume that with the fall in the temperature during the ice age, men were forced to migrate from the north (Central Asia) to the south (Iran). But the homo race was formed at the end of the third ice age, i.e. when the weather was gradually warming from the south to the north. Therefore, it would have been natural for people to migrate from south to north, and not the other way round. In fact, Central Asia was not habitable for men for thousands of years after the ice age, it only became so in the historic age as a result of the melting and receding of the arctic ice cap. Later groups of Iranians and Chinese migrated to these areas and formed the Turk race through cross breeding. The Indians are a hybrid of early Dravidians and the white Iranian race, a fact, which is evident from their dark skin.

    So why have some European historians said that the origin of the Iranians is Ce ntral Asia? Because in 1833, an Oxford University professor used the term Aryan to describe a group of languages with common origins. Although he later admitted that parts of his theory were erroneous, the theory of an Aryan race was used by a group of romanticist writers and western historians in quest for an ancient identity.

    The Germans, eyeing vast expanses of land in Central Asia, called themselves Aryans and cried for a return to the homeland. They used the Swastika, which, as a "wheel of Mithra (Sun/Fire)" used to be the arm of the Iranians since ancient times, as a Nazi symbol, to have an alibi to invade Russia.

    The French, British, Russians and recently Americans found different reasons to call themselves Aryans.

    http://www.iranchamber.com/history/a...le_origins.php

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    When was this written? It has a 1930ish sound to it.

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    The Germans, eyeing vast expanses of land in Central Asia, called themselves Aryans and cried for a return to the homeland. They used the Swastika, which, as a "wheel of Mithra (Sun/Fire)" used to be the arm of the Iranians since ancient times, as a Nazi symbol, to have an alibi to invade Russia.
    What nonsense is this?
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