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    Gentelmen,

    I have read many of your post and tried to be openminded in understanding how you think, feel and believe.

    While I am not at a point to form a concise opinion on the matter I will share this point of common interest, not only to yourself, but as a thorn in the side of American taxpayers.

    Isreal recieves over half of our foriegn aid budget, preferential bond treatment and historically has overshadowed the other 80+ million people killed in WW2.

    I disagree that Isreal is our personal responsibility to protect and that history taught in schools barely touches on the atrocities of Stalin and Mao, which dwarf Hitler in every aspect.

    No mention is ever given to Pol Pot and very little attention is paid to providing factual evidence. No balance is given to the brilliance of German engineering, or the early war superiority of the German war machine, later crushed by the allies, if not by sheer numbers alone.

    I have no animosity towards jews as a people, nor thier religion. I have no problem with their integration, or of other races, religions into the western world. What I do have a problem with is prefential treatment towards Isreal and minorities, which results in reverse-racism and breeds contempt in those of us who are thinking men.

    I do not share the common politically correct views that any sort of reparations are due anyone, for any reason.

    While I cannot share your enthusiasm for en masse' exclusion of certain types of people from society, I can understand how such contempt is bred, if not by those very people themselves. It is common belief and in fact a reality that jewish are an exclusionary society, in my opinion this is one of the reasons their culture has been suspect, nonetheless in many cases it is self-perpetuated.

    I will welcome a retort on your part and will not judge either way your point of view as you are entitled to it, however I will not wholesale accept the notion that jews, nor minorities are the singular cause of western cultural decay.

    By all means gentlmen, retort.

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    I mentioned Pol Pot as a point of interest regand do realize this was not in the ww2 era. I also wanted to note that US support of Isreal lies in stablization of the middle east, while I do not agree that this is our primary reasoning, it does hold some merit. As far as those of you who are looking for the muslim, or Islamic world to "finish the job", not being combative here, but Isreal has about 400 tactical nuclear weapons and could single handedly annihilate the entire middle east... I think the best compromise you could hope for would be a withdraw of US aid and technology at the expense of the American people, which is fine by me. I never believed it was the United States sole responsibility to hold up another nation.

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    You make some good points and at the moment I cannot comment on all of them because I am busy, perhaps I'll return later. Moreover I am not American or North American and it seems that your posts are aimed at American Racialists here. I see nothing controversial to what you wrote, therefore I would like to do some questions.

    Do you agree with the continual arrival of non-European Immigrants into Europe and other currently or previously White strongholds in the world, such as the United States?

    Do you agree that such immigrants or simply non-Whites be given equal rights and in the end also citizenship to the expense that they affect our States, Societies, Nation, and Race?

    Do you believe that Europe should be an area where only Whites are Citizens? If not, why is this so, don't we have a right to our own lands?

    These are some questions I have.

    P.S. I noticed that you had some National Socialist imagery before therefore giving the impression that you are a Racialist, now you unmask yourself as a Non-Racialist or perhaps even an Anti-Racialist. This is not the correct behaviour and know that I would be inclined to remove your account, but I am making an exception since you have been civil. Unfortunately I am restricting your forum access to further test you, this is part of the procedure being taken with Non-Racialists who have been registering here to cause havoc in recent days.

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    I have never had a problem with white people that are non racialist on this board. Actually, I think it is a good idea to have a couple for debates, which I am always open for.

    I have read many of your post and tried to be openminded in understanding how you think, feel and believe
    This is good. But be sure that you truely are open minded. Many people will say they are, when in fact they already have their minds set on a certain way of thinking. This is can subliminal, and many of these people dont realize their bias nature.
    I disagree that Isreal is our personal responsibility to protect and that history taught in schools barely touches on the atrocities of Stalin and Mao, which dwarf Hitler in every aspect.
    You are right about Isreal. One of the reasons we are going to war with Iraq, is for Isreal. So why protect them?
    In my years of highschool, I have never heard the name Stalin or Mao. Not even once. Of course I heard of Hitler in school, and how he was an evil man that murderd six million jews in an attempted genocide. This false information is pumped out by the Jews constantly. If you want to read the facts read "Did Six Million Really Die" here... www.IHR.org
    Not to get off subject x_p it just bugs me that this giant misperception is being tought as truth.

    I have no animosity towards jews as a people, nor thier religion. I have no problem with their integration, or of other races, religions into the western world. What I do have a problem with is prefential treatment towards Isreal and minorities, which results in reverse-racism and breeds contempt in those of us who are thinking men.
    The Jews religion is barbaric, but religion is all personal I guess.
    It is absurd to say that every single last person of a race is a piece of trash, this is obviously not true. There is some good of other races. But the Jews that run the USA are the decrepid of society, through their media control and government positions, they promote intergration and race mixing and even homo sexuality. This mass intergration is causing problems in maintaining cultural diversity. How can the Aryan race survive when we have our people mixing? It is cool to be black in the USA. It is NOT cool to be white. This is because of the jewish controlled media pumping this notion in our heads. We as the white man, live with this notion to help the struggling black man. We feel bad about the past because so slavery, because the Jew tells us to be. This is rediculous seeming the Jews ran most of the slave market, and the majority of slave owners were Jewish.
    Don't get me started on reverse predjeduce, I live in the deep of South Carolina, I know all about it. I am a victom of racist blacks and mexicans and other muds. As well as I am a victom of the Jew, which we all are, like it or not.

    Let me give you my belife real quick, in short.
    I believe that the trash of every race should be eliminated, and the good of every race should walk on its own land. Or at least give us some european land while it is still some what noble.
    I live by the 14 words "We must secure the existance of our people and a future for white children."

    I will welcome a retort on your part and will not judge either way your point of view as you are entitled to it, however I will not wholesale accept the notion that jews, nor minorities are the singular cause of western cultural decay.
    This dosnt sound too open minded to me. You have been granted regular access to the forum, please go and read some of the evidence we have here. Come back and give your opinions.

    By all means gentlmen, retort.
    I did mine, I think I coverd everything good enough, if not let me know. Now please, its your turn.

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    Originally posted by Nazzjonalist
    You make some good points and at the moment I cannot comment on all of them because I am busy, perhaps I'll return later. Moreover I am not American or North American and it seems that your posts are aimed at American Racialists here. I see nothing controversial to what you wrote, therefore I would like to do some questions.


    Most of my experience has been in North America yes. I find American blacks for example intolerable, second only to African savages, however Europian blacks, as far as my experiences are concerned are educated and well recieved, not to mention do not bleed the country of resources in the name of equality.

    Do you agree with the continual arrival of non-European Immigrants into Europe and other currently or previously White strongholds in the world, such as the United States?
    I strongly disagree with the open-border policy, especially as it relates to Mexico. I find that people of exceptional talent are needed for the high skill jobs in this country and looking elsewhere is often needed, especially in the medical and engineering field. The German and Scottish, the best at engineering overall are not exactly fleeing Europe, therefor Asians become our primary source of "skilled" import.

    I have a significant problem with wholesale refugees, look at what Castro did when he let criminals loose and we embraced them... LOL, joke is on us. I also have a significant problem with allowing Middle Eastern, Chinese and known hostile countries send exchange students to learn higher education. (ie. Nuclear Engineering, chemistry etc..)

    Do you agree that such immigrants or simply non-Whites be given equal rights and in the end also citizenship to the expense that they affect our States, Societies, Nation, and Race?
    No, Frankly the fact that illegals are taxing the medical system in this country to the point of snapping sickens me, not to mention if a doctor makes a mistake the illegal can sue him at the expense of you and I and then go back to their respective countries wealthy... nice system? I also believe that the common language in this country should be strictly adhered to, we are not here to try and please every immigrant, however some immigrants are needed for certain fields. I look at things more economically.

    Do you believe that Europe should be an area where only Whites are Citizens? If not, why is this so, don't we have a right to our own lands?
    No foriegn nation or persons should be allowed to own land in another country, nor control vital industry, it weakens the country. As for non-whites being citizens I would be more flexible on it than you would, mainly because we the whites are the minority in the world and I do not think we want the backlash that would ensue. You must compromise certain issues in order to win the larger ones.

    P.S. I noticed that you had some National Socialist imagery before therefore giving the impression that you are a Racialist, now you unmask yourself as a Non-Racialist or perhaps even an Anti-Racialist. This is not the correct behaviour and know that I would be inclined to remove your account, but I am making an exception since you have been civil. Unfortunately I am restricting your forum access to further test you, this is part of the procedure being taken with Non-Racialists who have been registering here to cause havoc in recent days.
    I removed my sig in order that people not have a pre-concieved idea of what I think, rather they judge my words, not my imagery.
    I would rather them understand, not judge what I say.

    As far as being non-racist, it's a matter of perception. I simply choose to keep some opinions to myself regarding those matters. I will at some point discuss with you my personal issues with certain groups and in the mean time I hope we can continue a nice civil dialogue.

    I did read many of the links you posted and continue to do so, the evidence presented in many cases is compelling, however the reference documents require further reading and this is what I am doing now. I thank you for providing links, statements without reference are just rhetoric, I appreciate the fact that you share those resources. Many times people simply spout learned behavior, I cannot tolerate sheep, no matter if I agree with them or not.... An opinion not independantly derived is pointless and dogmatic.
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    I did not come here to troll, debate, or simply disagree. I came to understand a differing point of view, perhaps not as different as you may think, maybe it's simply a matter of differing paths to the same conclusion.

    I would think that you would allow people who disagree with you to come on the boards anyway. How often has your voice been quieted by the politically correct crowd? Isn't it standard practice of the media to potray people who are not politically correct as paleolithic cave-men?

    If you shut down your forum to those who think ill of you, or disagree, how will people of similiar thought ever convince, or have any bearing on the largely brainwashed public?

    It seems you would welcome debate from those people... I certainly would. Many of the post in here are very civil and simply present an alternate point of view, followed up with reference material. I think those types of post are helpful, even if to dispell the belief that your opinions are simply dogmatic and without thought.

    I visited Stormfront for example, their IRC channell... I was booted and banned because my wife is half-asian. This is naturally ridiculous to me since I happen to love asian women and if you expect to gain any ground you must form alliances, even if you do not agree on all points. Common beliefs must be the guideline, not absolute agreement on all issues.

    To this point I am much more impressed here than on Stormfront and would like to continue, however if you cannot deal with the fact that I married a half-asian and it troubles you to the point of irritation, then by all means de-activate me, I think it would be overzealous, but these are your forums and I respect that.
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    I would think that you would allow people who disagree with you to come on the boards anyway. How often has your voice been quieted by the politically correct crowd? Isn't it standard practice of the media to potray people who are not politically correct as paleolithic cave-men?
    This is why you have been given access to the board. Please feel free to browse the forums.

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    Originally posted by Aryan NS
    This is why you have been given access to the board. Please feel free to browse the forums.
    I was referring to a statement he made earlier about not allowing any non-racist, of course calling me a non-racist would make my wife laugh even... lol

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    Sorry but you can't be a racist because you are a race-traitor. Plain and simple. You sound like another guy who came on Stormfront and here before. Why is it you disgusting race-traitoring men think you can support the white race and yet push it to extinction????

    You should be proud of your race and ancestors and not sell out to nonwhite muds.

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    Originally posted by NordicPower88
    Sorry but you can't be a racist because you are a race-traitor. Plain and simple. You sound like another guy who came on Stormfront and here before. Why is it you disgusting race-traitoring men think you can support the white race and yet push it to extinction????

    You should be proud of your race and ancestors and not sell out to nonwhite muds.
    This is the reason the white supremist movement will never get anywhere... you cannot concede on any issues, nor can you alliance yourself with those who have even the most minute of differences.

    Now you know why people have such a problem with your movement. There are many people that would alliance themselves for particular reasons, however with such a closed minded attitude most will never.

    You should think about what is more important, achieving goals sometimes take compromise.

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