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    Quote Originally Posted by Runesinger View Post
    Units of this type were described in the Hervarar saga and the Gesta Danorum (where 300 shieldmaidens fought on the Danish side at the Battle of Bråvalla, in 750). However, after the Christians took over there were no more women in battle.
    However, Battle of Bråvalla never actually took place in real life, it's fiction. There are many claims about this battle that is purely impossible. One hundred thousand combatants for starters, that guy who needed 144 arrows shot through him to die...

    At best, the battle is to be considered semi-legendary, meaning there was a real battle, but we can't be sure about anything related to it.
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    Even if the Battle of Bråvalla did not actually take place, the essentials of sagas were not taken out of whole cloth, but have some practical basis in reality. While the numbers, specific events, or actual maneuvers may be exaggerated, the basic practices are usually typical of the time. From this we may infer that shield-maidens participated in battle in some capacity during that time frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Runesinger View Post
    Even if the Battle of Bråvalla did not actually take place, the essentials of sagas were not taken out of whole cloth, but have some practical basis in reality. While the numbers, specific events, or actual maneuvers may be exaggerated, the basic practices are usually typical of the time. From this we may infer that shield-maidens participated in battle in some capacity during that time frame.
    We can only assume that it actually happened if we know of multiple stories with shield-maidens, coming from multiple sources. If we only know of one fictional story with shield-maidens, it is reasonable to be fairly suspicious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gustavus Magnus View Post
    We can only assume that it actually happened if we know of multiple stories with shield-maidens, coming from multiple sources. If we only know of one fictional story with shield-maidens, it is reasonable to be fairly suspicious.
    Actually, there were more sagas that mentioned the shield-maidens - even the Greenland Saga, which was very post-Christian. I only mentioned the Gesta Danorum and the Hervarar saga because these were the most interesting accounts to me.

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    Oh Give me A Break Anfang!

    And Obama is the “First Black” President!


    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540...20170#27720170

    If you are going to hold up women as examples, I think you should have stuck with Boudiccia. At lest she was not the product of affirmative action.

    Sorry but at lest stick with individuals who have some form of their own credibility.

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    And we forgot about the Amazon Women.

    The Amazons (Greek: Ἀμαζόνες, Amazónes, singular Ἀμαζών, Amazōn) are a nation of all-female warriors in Classical and Greek mythology. Herodotus placed them in a region bordering Scythia in Sarmatia (modern territory of Ukraine). Other historiographers place them in Asia Minor or Libya.

    Notable queens of the Amazons are Penthesilea, who participated in the Trojan War, and her sister Hippolyta, whose magical girdle was the object of one of the labours of Hercules. Amazonian raiders were often depicted in battle with Greek warriors in amazonomachies in classical art.

    The Amazons become associated with various historical peoples throughout the Roman Empire period and Late Antiquity. In Roman era historiography, there are various accounts of Amazon raids in Asia Minor. From the Early Modern period, their name has become a term for woman warriors in general.
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    [1.2.1] On entering the city there is a monument to Antiope the Amazon. This Antiope, Pindar says, was carried of by Peirithous and Theseus, but Hegias of Troezen gives the following account of her. Heracles was besieging Themiscyra on the Thermodon, but could not take it, but Antiope, falling in love with Theseus, who was aiding Heracles in his campaign, surrendered the stronghold. Such is the account of Hegias. But the Athenians assert that when the Amazons came, Antiope was shot by Molpadia, while Molpadia was killed by Theseus. To Molpadia also there is a monument among the Athenians.

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    http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/ancie...anias-bk1.html




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