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    Quote Originally Posted by jagdmesser View Post
    Through education and media people have been continuously fed infantile, National Socialism demonization. World War 2 German actions must be viewed in a vacuum for the New World Order to advance its covert objective of Jewish supremacy and total dominance. Look at it in context and immediately you see it for the propaganda it is.


    Its personal and career suicide to say and point out the fact that WW II was organised by the jewish Bankers.


    The Germany of Goethe, Luther, Beethoven, Nietzsche, Spengler, Werner Heisenberg, and countless other truly great Germans like them. These were men who built civilization. This was the Germany the "Allies" destroyed. Not Hitler.


    Understanding World War 2 is crucial to understanding what is happening all around us today. On the one hand, there's the concentration of power and wealth, and the continuing imperial overseas wars of resource theft and inaction on the scams and hoaxes: fiat money, politics, where all politicians everywhere are bought, the pandemic, climate change and mass migration.
    Well, you may struggle to find that hand organizing directly of course. But bear in mind a few things:
    * The press in Allied countries was priming their populations for war for a longer time already. (Lots of it was in Jewish hands)
    * Lots of money has been invested onto a war card meaning armaments industries. So there was further motivation to push for war. Not only by Jews, but by anybody that had a vested interest in it.
    * Germany's example was seen as a threat, since workers standards of living were rising there. That had the potential that workers may demand similar policies in Allied countries.

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    Europeans may benefit from a warmer winter due to the so-called called "Climate Change" or global warming theories. I'm not sure how they will fare with a colder winter due to rising costs of fuels. Even electric cars and houses require electricity from various power plants or sources. Large windmills do not generate enough power, maybe up to 20% if they work properly. Germany could turn to more lignite to burn for heat, but that destroys the landscape. Europe also has some oil reserves in the Scandinavian countries and Arctic zone if they don't export the crude elsewhere. I believe the European crisis will only get worse under Biden administration (Democrats) with possible funding and ties to Saudi oil through lobbyist groups. As a result, Europe will be forced to deal with the Middle East for fuel. The Biden administration has also put strict controls on US drilling through higher permitting fees and stricter requirements for environmental research. Under Trump presidency, he allowed more fracking and alternative ways to extract gas and oil, so the prices now continue to rise here too. The Democrats also killed the Keystone Pipeline too, twice to mention. The elite will continue to make more man-made crisis of fuel shortages and create larger profits for select companies. Of course, the Ukraine war does not help with the current shortages.

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    The trick in the climate argument is using weather changes as proof for their hypothesis that human fuel consumption causes those climate changes. That's a classical example of question begging / affirming the consequent, which are logical fallacies. It's pretty shocking how few people with even higher education are unable to notice that.

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    John Mearsheimer: The causes and consequences of the Ukraine war

    Mearsheimer lays out why the West, and particularly the USA, made this war happen, then he's grilled by globohomo marxist scum at the end.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qciVozNtCDM

    [02-10, 17:07] Chlodovech: cats may have a reason for meowing too

    [02-10, 17:08] renownedwolf: same reason as the missus then.. give me stuff/affection..though she doesnt need me to let her out in the garden for a poo..

    [02-10, 17:09] Chlodovech: that's more than I can say of Thoreidar

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    [21-03, 14:55] Coillearnach: lol, I hate those qs that are like “do you side with your country even if it’s wrong”, bitch I am the equivalent of a Palestinian at this point, what country would that be

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    It would be interesting to know your opinion. Could the ascension of a renewed Russian Empire under Putin be considered a peril for the True German world? I mean not the European Union but the German people and other conscious minded folks in Europe.

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    Maybe, Putin wants a Pan-Slavic union similar to the EU for economic reasons competing in world markets? Russia also wants port access besides the North Sea and East Asia. Post WW2, East Prussia was also taken by Russia due to its waterway location for shipping goods and less icy conditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aridax View Post
    It would be interesting to know your opinion. Could the ascension of a renewed Russian Empire under Putin be considered a peril for the True German world? I mean not the European Union but the German people and other conscious minded folks in Europe.
    Ideally - for Germans - Ukraine is part of the German sphere of influence (and if that's not an option, a neutral Ukraine is still more desirable). Something the Ukrainians would be fine with if it means keeping the Russians out. Same goes for the Balts or the Bulgarians ("Always on the side of the Germany, never against Russia" is Bulgaria's age-old foreign policy - it underpins their geopolitical stance - they stuck to this view in both world wars too; Bulgarians didn't participate in battles on the Eastern Front in WW2 for instance) or Croats, another traditional German ally (the Germans provided them with weaponry in the Yugoslav Civil War as well). These people naturally politically gravitate towards Germany, not unlike Taiwan, Japan and the Philippines seek American protection to ward off China. But Germany doesn't do much in the way of power politics these days and has largely abolished itself as a geopolitical factor.

    If we're being hyperrealistic, and accept political reality for what it is, from a German etno-preservationist position a Russian victory is acceptable because it hurts the liberal world order which Germany is a slave to. Russia doesn't have to be an enemy of Germany and where a future border between the German and Russians spheres of influence would be doesn't matter as much - as long as there is one, a clear line of division. As is the case for Russia and Turkey in the Caucasus. The Russians have no issue with a Germany within its 1914 borders and would gladly settle for such a setup if it means they get what they want from such a deal. It doesn't matter so much who controls what where, as long as both sides know where the exact line of division lies.

    The only winner of the current conflict in Ukraine is the liberal world order and the globalists who hijacked the U.S.: they got Russia in a position where they wanted it to be since the late Nineties, under pressure, isolated from Europe, while Europe has renounced all of the little strategic sovereignty it had and became military dependend on the U.S. again - and dependend on U.S. partners for its energy supply. Opposition to liberalism has been made irrelevant and has been thrown back to the Eighties again, too, perhaps for decades to come. An absolute nightmare.

    We shouldn't be surprised that liberals start conflicts with Russia for domestic reasons, to distract people and wreck the opposition, when the pressure mounts on liberalism as was the case in the Trump-Brexit era, as well as world domination. They won't stop until russia has been carved up in 20 pieces and there are gay pride parades on the Red Square.
    "All passion is lost now. The world is mediocre, limp, without force. And madness and despair are a force. And force is a crime in the eyes of the fools, the weak and the silly who rule the roost." - Joseph Conrad

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    How Jewish Is the War Against Russia?

    How Jewish Is the War Against Russia?
    Let’s be honest about who is promoting it.






    Five years ago, I wrote an article entitled “America’s Jews Are Driving America’s wars.” It turned out to be the most popular piece that I have ever written and I was rewarded for it by
    immediately being fired by the so-called American Conservative magazine, where I had been a regular and highly popular contributor for fourteen years. I opened the article with a brief description of an encounter with a supporter whom I had met shortly before at an antiwar conference. The elderly gentleman asked “Why doesn’t anyone ever speak honestly about the six-hundred-pound gorilla in the room? Nobody has mentioned Israel in this conference and we all know it’s American Jews with all their money and power who are supporting every war in the Middle East for Netanyahu? Shouldn’t we start calling them out and not letting them get away with it?”


    In my article I named many of the individual Jews and Jewish groups that had been leading the charge to invade Iraq and also deal with Iran along the way. They used fake intelligence and out-and-out lies to make their case and never addressed the central issue of how those two countries actually threatened the United States or its vital interests. And when they succeeded in committing the US to the fiasco in Iraq, as far as I can determine only one honest Jew who had participated in the process, Philip Zelikow, in a moment of candor, admitted that the Iraq War, in his opinion, was fought for Israel.


    There was considerable collusion between the Israeli government and the Jews in the Pentagon, White House, National Security Council and State Department in the wake of 9/11. Under President George W. Bush, Israeli Embassy staff uniquely had free access to the Pentagon office of Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz, not being required to sign in or submit any security measures. It was a powerful indication of the special status that Israel enjoyed with top Jews in the Bush Administration. It should also be recalled that Doug Feith’s Office of Special Plans was the source of the false WMD information used by the Administration to justify invading Iraq, while that information was also funneled directly to Vice President Dick Cheney without any submission to possibly critical analysts by his chief of Staff “Scooter” Libby. Wolfowitz, Feith and Libby were of course Jewish as were many on their staffs and Feith’s relationship with Israel was so close that he actually partnered in a law firm that had a branch in Jerusalem. Feith also served on the board of the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA), which is dedicated to nurturing the relationship between the US and Israel.


    Currently, the top three State Department officials (Tony Blinken, Wendy Sherman and Victoria Nuland) are all Zionist Jews. The head of the Department of Homeland Security, which is hot on the trail of domestic “terrorist” dissidents, is also Jewish as is the Attorney General and the president’s chief of staff. They and their boss Joe Biden do not seem concerned that their client Ukraine is no democracy. The nation’s current government came into power after the 2014 coup engineered by President Barack Obama’s State Department at an estimated cost of $5 billion. The regime change carried out under Barack Obama was driven by State Department Russophobe Victoria Nuland with a little help from international globalist George Soros. It removed the democratically elected President Viktor Yanukovych who was, unfortunately for him, a friend of Russia.


    Ukraine is reputedly both the poorest and most corrupt country in Europe, witness the Hunter Biden saga. The current President Volodymyr Zelensky, who is Jewish and claims to have holocaust victims in his family tree, is a former comedian who won election in 2019. He replaced another Jewish president Petro Poroshenko, after being heavily funded and promoted by yet another fellow Jew and Ukraine’s richest oligarch Ihor Kolomoyskyi, who is also an Israeli citizen and now lives in Israel.


    It all sounds like deja vu all over again, particularly as many of the perpetrators are still around, like Nuland, priming the pump to go to war yet again for no reason. And they are joined by journalists like Bret Stephens at the New York Times, Wolf Blitzer and Jake Tapper at CNN, and also Max Boot at the Washington Post, all of whom are Jewish and can be counted on to write regular pieces both damning and demonizing Russia and its head of state Vladimir Putin, which means it is not only about the Middle East anymore. It is also about weakening and even bringing about regime change in nuclear armed Russia while also drawing some lines in the sand for likewise nuclear armed China. And I might add that playing power games with Russia is a hell of a lot more dangerous that kicking Iraq around.


    To put it bluntly, many US government and media Jews hate Russia and even though they benefited substantially as a group by virtue of their preeminent role in the looting of the former Soviet Union under Boris Yeltsin and continue to be among the most prominent Russian oligarchs. Many of the oligarch billionaires, like Boris Berezovsky, self-exiled when Vladimir Putin obtained power and began to crack down on their tax avoidance and other illegal activity. Many moved to Western Europe where some bought up football teams while others went south and obtained Israeli citizenship. Their current grievances somewhat reflect their tribe’s demand for perpetual victimhood and the deference plus forgiveness of all sins that it conveys, with the self-promoted tales of persecution going back to the days of the Tsars, full of allegations about pogroms and Cossacks arriving in the night, stories that rival many of the holocaust fabrications in terms of their lack of credibility.


    Many Jews, particularly younger Jews, are finding it difficult to support apartheid Israel and the constant wars being initiated and fought for no particularly credible reason by both Democratic and Republican parties when in power, which is a good thing. But Jewish power in Washington and across the US is difficult to ignore and it is precisely those Jewish groups and individuals who have been empowered through their wealth and connections who have been the most vocal leading warmongers when it has come to the Middle East and to Russia.


    Interestingly, however, some pushback is developing. The Jewish peace group Tikkun has recently published a devastating article by Jeffrey Sachs on the Jews who have been agitating for war. It is entitled “Ukraine Is the Latest Neocon Disaster” and describes how “The war in Ukraine is the culmination of a 30-year project of the American neoconservative movement. The Biden Administration is packed with the same neocons who championed the US wars of choice in Serbia (1999), Afghanistan (2001), Iraq (2003), Syria (2011), Libya (2011), and who did so much to provoke Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. The neocon track record is one of unmitigated disaster, yet Biden has staffed his team with neocons. As a result, Biden is steering Ukraine, the US, and the European Union towards yet another geopolitical debacle…”


    Tikkun explains how “The neocon movement emerged in the 1970s around a group of public intellectuals, several of whom were influenced by University of Chicago political scientist Leo Strauss and Yale University classicist Donald Kagan. Neocon leaders included Norman Podhoretz, Irving Kristol, Paul Wolfowitz, Robert Kagan (son of Donald), Frederick Kagan (son of Donald), Victoria Nuland (wife of Robert), Elliott Abrams, and Kimberley Allen Kagan (wife of Frederick).” It might be added that Kimberley Kagan heads the Institute for the Study of War, which is often cited in media coverage and even in Congress to explain why we must fight Russia.


    It has long been recognized by many that a particular antipathy directed against Russia permeates the so-called neoconservative world view. The neocons are hugely overrepresented at the top levels of government and, as noted above, a number of them are running the State Department while also holding high level positions elsewhere in the Biden Administration as well as in the foreign policy think tanks, including Richard Haass at the influential Council on Foreign Relations. Likewise, the intensely Russophobic US and Western media, foundations and social networking sites are disproportionately Jewish in their ownership and staffing.


    And beyond that, Ukraine is to a certain extent a very Jewish-identified place. The Jewish media in the US and elsewhere has been showering Zelensky with praise,referring to him as a genuine “Jewish hero,” a modern Maccabee resisting oppression, a David versus Goliath. T-shirts bearing his image are being sold that read “Resisting tyrants since Pharaoh” while the largely Orthodox Jewish community in New York City has already been raising millions of dollars for Ukrainian aid.


    The Jewish Telegraphic Agency reports that a “2020 demographic survey estimated that besides a ‘core’ population of 43,000 Jews, around 200,000 Ukrainians are technically eligible for Israeli citizenship, meaning that they have identifiable Jewish ancestry. The European Jewish Congress says that number could be as high as 400,000.” If that is true, it is one of the largest Jewish communities in the world and it includes at least 8,000 Israelis, many of whom have returned to Israel.


    As US-Russian negotiations leading up the current fighting were clearly designed to fail by the Biden Administration, one therefore has to wonder if this war against Russia is largely a product of a long enduring ethno-religious hatred coupled with a belief in the necessity for a strong American military applied as needed to dominate the world and thereby protect Israel. The neocons are most visible, but equally toxic are the Jews who would prefer to describe themselves as neoliberals or liberal interventionists, that is liberals who promote a strong, assertive American leadership role to support the basically phony catchwords “democracy” and “freedom.” Both neocons and neoliberals inevitably support the same policies so they have both ends of the political spectrum covered, particularly concerning the Middle East and against Russia. They currently dominate the foreign policy thinking of both major political parties as well as exercising control over media and entertainment industry coverage of the issues that concern them, largely leaving the American public with only their viewpoint to consider.


    There is plenty of other evidence that prominent Jews both inside and outside the Administration have been stirring things up against Russia with considerable success as President Biden has now declared insanely that his Administration is engaged in “a great battle for freedom. A battle between democracy and autocracy. Between liberty and repression.” He has confirmed that the US is in Ukraine’s war against Russia until we “win.” How else does one explain the ridiculous trip by Attorney General Merrick Garland to Kiev in late June to help set up a war crimes investigation directed against Russia?


    As Garland is supposed to be the US Attorney General, it might first be useful to investigate crimes relating to the United States. He might start with American war crimes in Iraq and Afghanistan or Israeli war crimes using Washington provided weapons in Lebanon and Syria, not to mention the human rights violations using those same weapons that occur on a daily basis directed against the Palestinians. Some conservatives are also wondering why the Attorney General spends his time pursuing “white supremacists” and has failed to investigate the rioting, looting and killing that rocked the nation in the BLM Summer of 2020.


    Nevertheless, an undeterred and fearless Garland announced while in Kiev that Eli Rosenbaum, Jewish of course, and a 36-year veteran of the Justice Department who previously served as the director of the Office of Special Investigations, which was primarily responsible for identifying, denaturalizing and deporting Nazi war criminals, will lead a War Crimes Accountability team made up of DOJ experts in investigating Russian human-rights abuses. After the obligatory photo op sucking up to Zelensky, the diminutive but steely eyed Attorney General declared that “There is no hiding place for war criminals. The US Justice Department will pursue every avenue of accountability for those who commit war crimes and other atrocities in Ukraine. Working alongside our domestic and international partners, the Justice Department will be relentless in our efforts to hold accountable every person complicit in the commission of war crimes, torture and other grave violations during the unprovoked conflict in Ukraine.” And if any further evidence required to demonstrate the Jewishness of that week in Kiev, actor Ben Stiller, also a Jew, visited Zelensky and gave him a big hug.


    If Eli Rosenbaum is still seriously interested in finding Nazis he will find many more of them in Ukraine than within the Russian Army. So, one has to ask “Whose war is it and who is making it happen?” Can you please explain Joe Biden? Or, given your perpetual blank look, should I ask Merrick Garland or Tony Blinken or maybe even Victoria Nuland?


    Philip M. Giraldi.



    You know what? I don’t think the world gets lucky and avoids a nuclear Armageddon this time around. The absolutely insane Jewish conspiracy is just too embedded, powerful, and single-minded about destroying Russia and ruling the world using Washington as its foreign legion. Who in the press besides Philip Giraldi even admits to the abundant evidence of this, much less volunteers to take them on in the political arena? Say one word on the matter and you are shredded by the Zionist American media as an anti-Semitic bigot trying to persecute the Jews like Hitler… or Putin. Then you are never heard from again, basically being transformed into a non-person.
    Already the Jewish banksters and financiers are taking advantage of the reported hyperinflation and incipient depression they purposely caused. Otherwise, esplain to me why my homeowners insurance has suddenly doubled from last year and tripled from the year before that? Why does it now cost a lot more money to insure just one car rather than the two I used to carry only a couple years ago? Why have my electricity rates averaged 20-25% higher than last year? And, of cuss, medical insurance premiums continue to grow like a culture of bacteria in mid-logarithmic phase. And, food. Did I mention food? Who can afford it? Also gasoline. No one gets pay raises any more but the hit at the pump is astounding–eight or nine bucks a gallon in Cali. Five or six bucks everywhere else. Somebody is fleecing the middle class before we all become indigent and have to pitch tents on downtown sidewalks. Gee, who would be doing that ya think? Someone who believes we white middle class prols are subhuman and not worth keeping around to exploit like their privileged darkies. If the destruction of this society is inevitable, along with all civilisation, I just hope that Putin gets in a few good licks with his nukes before Russia gets ashed. Let the Zionists behold their handiwork before they meet oblivion.



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    "Every Jew, who spills the blood of the godless (non-Jews), is doing the same as making a sacrifice to God." ~ Talmud: Bammidber raba c 21 & Jalkut 772



    "Wars are the Jews’ harvest, for with them we wipe out the Christians and get control of their gold. We have already killed 100 million of them, and the end is not yet." ~ Chief Rabbi in France, in 1859, Rabbi Reichorn.



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