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    "Antisemites, Holocaust deniers flood comments on trailer for Seth Rogen Christmas movie"

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    Comments on the YouTube trailer for 'Santa Inc.' are being celebrated by far-right extremists.



    Antisemites and Holocaust deniers are brigading the comment section of the trailer for an upcoming HBO Max Christmas special. “Brigading” refers to coordinated trolling campaigns. Many of the comments clearly violate YouTube’s policies prohibiting hate speech.

    Santa Inc. is an animated limited series written for an adult audience. The plotline centers on an elf, voiced by Sarah Silverman, who wants to take over the role of Santa Claus. Seth Rogen plays Santa.

    It’s not clear precisely what attracted the attention of antisemites and Holocaust deniers. That two Jewish people, Silverman and Rogen, are starring in the Christmas special seems to have factored in, as many of the comments reference their religion.

    Far-right groups and figures are also circulating a list of people involved with the production identifying those who are purportedly Jewish or sympathetic to the Black Lives Matter movement.



    Many comments criticize the series’ “woke” message. The trailer notes that Santa has traditionally been “a white man’s game” and vows to change that. At another point, Silverman’s character tells Santa, “Good news, sir, more American kids believe in you than they do in vaccines or the Holocaust.”

    Whatever the impetus, the trailer’s comment section is now flooded with antisemitism and Holocaust denialism. More than 25,000 have commented on it as of this writing.

    Claims are circulating that YouTube disabled the “dislike” count after tens of thousands disliked the Santa Inc. trailer.

    However, YouTube recently announced a plan to remove the dislike count from its site. The timing might be coincidental here.



    YouTube’s policies prohibit hate speech on the basis of race, nationality, religion, etc. The company says it uses “a combination of people and machine learning” to identify content that potentially violates its rules.

    “In addition, we rely on the YouTube community as well as experts in our Trusted Flagger program to help us spot potentially problematic content by reporting it directly to us,” it adds. “We also go to great lengths to make sure content that violates our policies isn’t widely viewed, or even viewed at all, before it’s removed.”

    YouTube did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

    Like other platforms, YouTube has grappled with policing hate speech, including antisemitism, for years.

    Many of the comments are written in thinly disguised code, potentially to evade punishment or detection. For example, commenters use “elves” to refer to Jewish people and 6 million “toys” or “presents” to refer to the number of Jews murdered in the Holocaust.

    The top commenter, Man of Low Moral Fiber, has a verified YouTube channel with 100,000 subscribers. He wrote, “Did you know? Elves have been knocked off of at least 109 shelves? Somehow they always end up climbing back on and making rules about knocking them off.”

    “And they always display the same voracious elfnocentrism that got them knocked off the shelf in the first place. Some might suggest that it’s simply time to take the shelf down. The international elf is the world’s foremost problem.”



    “The number 109 is white supremacist numeric shorthand for an antisemitic claim that Jews have been expelled from 109 different countries,” the Anti-Defamation League reports.

    Man of Low Moral Fiber’s comment has 10,000 likes and more than 100 comments, such as, “Total elf extermination is the only option.”

    All the top comments are of similar nature. Many either deny the death toll of the Holocaust or celebrate it.

    Another top comment says, “6 million presents every Christmas eve? That’s not possible. It takes about one to five minutes to wrap a package.”

    “Did you know? The Elves tell this great story about the 1940s when more elves were killed by Santa than actually existed. If anyone questions the story, their lives are ruined by the elves instantly. Truly magical creatures, the elves,” another commenter wrote.



    White nationalist and far-right groups and their sympathizers are delighted by the bigoted brigading of the trailer. Many have posted approvingly about the comments on other platforms and suggested their followers read them.

    Some made similar comments on Rogen’s tweet promoting the series.


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    During late 20th-century, Christmas has been hijacked by commercialism and Hollywood watering down the spiritual purpose. Santa was originally from Odin anyways, from a Norse/Germanic pre-Christian religion, and elves from myths. So many Christmas stories have a "Jewish" slant with shallow meanings for children. As we become less Westernized and European, the negativeness and dominance will continue. I guess some comments were venting. Disney and Netflix do a lot of movies spinning off European culture to make profit and monies as the cast looks less European. Can Hollywood make a Christmas movie without Jewish actors and themes?

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    Saint Nicholas was East Roman/Byzantine, but Yuletide elements unrelated to the birth of the Jew Jesus are Germanic, so very multicultural.

    Jews love the commercial multiculturalism of Christmas.
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    Their "religion," huh? Neither Seth Rogen nor Sarah Silverman keep Jewish religious laws or participate more than sporadically in Jewish religious worship. They are entirely secular figures. What people are commenting on and what is actually relevant here is their RACE.

    "You don't have to believe in Judaism at all to be a Jewish person. It's not a job you can quit from. Our DNA test comes back Jewish. You could find a severed finger and tell that it was Jewish -- which is not how Baptists work." -Seth Rogen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emma of Normandy View Post
    Their "religion," huh? Neither Seth Rogen nor Sarah Silverman keep Jewish religious laws or participate more than sporadically in Jewish religious worship. They are entirely secular figures. What people are commenting on and what is actually relevant here is their RACE.

    "You don't have to believe in Judaism at all to be a Jewish person. It's not a job you can quit from. Our DNA test comes back Jewish. You could find a severed finger and tell that it was Jewish -- which is not how Baptists work." -Seth Rogen
    It's true, especially in the cases of Rogen and Silverman that Ashkenazi blood is a typical element of DNA testing. Europeans with less than 4% Ashkenazi blood aren't reckoned to be Jewish and I have about 3%, according to Jtest by Davidski. This must otherwise be grouped with Southwest Asia and/or North Africa. Typically, Y-DNA haplogroup J is what flags you for Jewish blood, also found in Arabs as well as Iranians and Greeks because of Afroasiatic success on the battlefield and in the bed, but this Neolithic 'Fertile Crescent' heritage is fraternal to Mesolithic Europeans with Y-DNA haplogroup I highest in the Balkans and Scandinavia, them having a common Pontic Euxine origin in Y-DNA haplogroup IJ.

    Also, African DNA in Europeans is often a corollary to Jew DNA, so the more Jew your blood, the more African, for the most part. African genetics in Europe can come indirectly from Turks, Saracens and Moors forcing Mohammedanism onto the Balkans, Italy and Iberia, but when found in Goyim with recent Christian Mediterranean ancestry, it's more usually from Phśnicians, Egyptians or Numidians through Persian, Greek or Roman descent, etc. Typically, Y-DNA haplogroup E is what flags you for African descent, found highest in Albanian/Kosovar men, but throughout the same Mediterranean countries where Hamito-Semitic blood is highest and each progressively decreases further into the Alps or North where Y-DNA haplogroup R of Indogermanic/Aryan descent is most common, followed by Uralic N Y-DNA haplogroup.

    In short, if you have Jew or African DNA, it may come from Iranian and Greek/Cypriot, or Albanian/Kosovar sources, not necessarily worshipers of Moses or Muhammad, but an even older presence than recent i.e. Medićval historiography. Think that even if you have ancestors with J blood, it's not far from native I blood of Mesolithic Europe, or if you've got E blood, it's actually related to the D blood of Japan and Tibetans, so neither is necessarily as foreign as stereotyped in imagination, although the latter is still more distant than Turco-Mongols of C blood, not even being part of F blood like the Semites are with us, combining as CF blood. Really, only A or B bloods are more reliable indicators of Negroid descent, because E isn't wholly African any more than J blood being wholly Arab.

    If you're Aryan of R blood like me, Amerindians of Q blood are the nearest brethren and if you're a non-Swedish Finn of N blood, your brethren are in the Sinosphere and Pacific Islanders with O blood. G blood ties you to the Caucasus and H blood to Ceylon. There's no monolithic West Eurasian Y-DNA, but this does exist in mtDNA and Jews share the same with Goyim, so it's ironic that despite their matrilineal qualifications for Jewishness, they have no distinct mtDNA from the rest of us who claim to be patrilineal but are only united by mtDNA and not our Y-DNA. Realistically, Jewry are no more different than Persian and Hellenic folks, if judging by blood instead of culture, but then again, Moses, Mohammed and Jesus are all Semitic cults and there is only a linguistic division with Jews on one side, if not Yids or Ladins, Farsi and Hellenic speakers on the other, in the context of joint J blood. LOL
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