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Thread: The Noble Enemies of Germany: A Collection of Anti-German and Revealing Quotes from Influential and Popular Persons

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    Re: Re : AW: The noble enemies of Germany

    Quote Originally Posted by Antonio
    German fought a long lasting war that inevitably ended in a loss. Hitler beyond all people made many mistakes... but the biggest mistake he ever made was declaring war on the world.
    He never declared war "on the world". Britain and France declared war on Germany, because the German expansion eastward threatened their interests. At that time, the British Empire was the most important world power, whose political interests would be hurt if Germany established a large continental empire.

    And not only that but if you wanna get specific... when he declared war on the U.S.
    Because of his pact with Japan. Pearl Harbour may have been "out of the blue" for the general American public, it surely wasn't for Roosevelt. The Japanese expansion in the East hurt American economic interests, particularly in Shanghai, so Roosevelt began depriving Japan of oil. This caused Japan to expand southwards to conquer oil wells. The lack of oil was also one of the main reasons Japan would not help Germany out in the attack on the USSR; the Japanese simply would not have been able to maintain a war in Russia. Instead, the Japanese attacked the American naval fleet, hoping a sufficiently decisive blow could render the oil embargo ineffective.

    If you're interested in a decent mainstream source, I would recommend the BBC documentary The Road to War. It's still slanted against the Axis (particularly Germany), of course, but it does give a good impression of Roosevelt's double-faced politics and plainly states Hitler did not want war with France and Britain.

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    Re: The noble enemies of Germany

    Quote Originally Posted by Aeternitas
    'D'abord le plaisir, après le travail' (Pleasure before work).
    Is that translated correctly?

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    Re: The noble enemies of Germany

    Quote Originally Posted by Leofric
    Is that translated correctly?
    Yes. "d'abord" means "(what comes/lies) at first/next", "plaisir"="pleasure", "apres" means "(what comes) after", "travail"="work".

    The question is: has he really said this? As I said before, this is the crucial point and this is now - after most eye-witnesses have passed away - extremely difficult to prove.

    But Churchill was always boasting with his ability to parlor in French. It made him - as he thought - sort of "classical" Grand Seigneur. It very much fits him and I have no doubt the sentence is authentic.

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    Re: The noble enemies of Germany

    Yes, I agree it is difficult to prove. As far as the source is concerned, one can find this quote and many more by following the link I posted earlier:
    http://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scr...tations01.html

    It is stated there, for example in the case of James Addison Baker's quote on Hitler, that the source isn't verified. I assume the same would have been done about Backhaus's quote, so I assume it was verified in some way, at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by Leofric
    Is that translated correctly?
    Yes, it is. An ad literam translation would be "First pleasure, afterwards work".

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    Re: The noble enemies of Germany

    Sven Hedin in his book Amerika im Kampf der Kontinente: "But once the great turning point had come in Germany's fate, the democrats fell upon her again; they did not understand that it was they themselves who, through their short-sightedness, had brought about this turning point. They had broken promises, and then accused the new German state leadership of breach of contract because it is always easier to shift the blame onto someone else than to take responsibility oneself. All of the suggestions that Germany made for the safeguarding of peace were either rejected or ignored, until Germany grew tired of seeking trustful co-operation with the other powers. Germany began to throw off her fetters herself, and to create a national arsenal for herself that would equal that of her neighbors, who had never complied with their disarmament obligations in the first place. [...]On May 21, 1935, Adolf Hitler said in the Reichstag: 'Any war first of all devours the nation's very best... By raising the birth rate, a healthy social policy can bless its nation with more children of its own in the course of a very few years than a war could conquer and gain in foreigners. No! National-Socialist Germany wants peace, out of profound ideological conviction.' Nobody can deny that this is a true and convincing program for peace.

    Source

    More quotes here.

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    AW: The noble enemies of Germany

    "Many of you have in your veins German and Italian blood. But remember that these ancestors of yours so loved freedom that they gave up home and country to cross the ocean in search of liberty. The ancestors of the people we shall kill lacked the courage to make such a sacrifice and remained slaves."

    General George S. Patton to his troops before the American invasion of Italy
    Tolerance is a proof of distrust in one's own ideals. Friedrich Nietzsche


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    Re: The noble enemies of Germany

    Bomber Harris famously said: "Germany has sown the wind and now they will reap the whirlwind." This was a direct reference to the German bombing of London - a residential city, that triggered the Allied response of eventually bombing Germany cities. However it should be noted that bombing was so inaccurate that missions frequently targeting military establishments went awry. It is said that only 5 per cent of bombs fell within 5 miles of their chosen target.

    Winston Churchill may be a swine to you, but he is held in the highest regard as the saviour of the British people. He enjoyed a drink, smoked too many cigars, and, like all war leaders, made mistakes. Yet he held the island fortress of Britain inviolate, we can ask for no more from a Prime Minister.




    Quote Originally Posted by Spjabork View Post
    I cannot verify this source (HA ~ "French" etc.).

    You asked me to put forward more sources. If I had acces to the "upper thousand"
    (not ten), i.e. the Lords, Senators & their Jewish siblings, I could. But this access I am denied. Also, I would not like to mix with them.

    I always felt, that Churchill was not clean - let alone sober -, that he was a swine. I was sure, but it's difficult to prove it. For as stupid as he was, at least this wisdom had made it into his mentally distorted brain: That you must not utter certain things in public. If you can't hold them back, just say them in a "safe" environment. And never write them down.

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    Re: The noble enemies of Germany

    Quote Originally Posted by Tabitha View Post
    Bomber Harris famously said: "Germany has sown the wind and now they will reap the whirlwind." This was a direct reference to the German bombing of London - a residential city, that triggered the Allied response of eventually bombing Germany cities.
    Dear Tabitha, to discuss this problem in-depth would require to immerse into a highly specialised scrutiny of military thinking and air warfare already before WWII.

    The Italian general Giulio Douhet wrote in the 20ies a very famous book about the importance of strategic bombing in a future war. Churchill and Harris knew that book.

    I have seen Harris in a documentary film, speaking to the British people, where he stated: "... some people say, strategic bombing cannot decide a war. Well, it hasen't been tried yet." (This is a film from that time I saw on TV, so I can't give you the "source", I only know this film does exist. Sometimes, I feel like Orwell. )
    In that same TV-doc it also was said, that Harris was somewhat disappointed, that after the war the British didn't erect memorials for him everywhere.
    Winston Churchill may be a swine to you, but he is held in the highest regard as the saviour of the British people. He enjoyed a drink, smoked too many cigars, and, like all war leaders, made mistakes. Yet he held the island fortress of Britain inviolate, we can ask for no more from a Prime Minister.
    I know what you feel. Churchill has been your war leader. The British always rally behind their leaders in the war as if they were a crew on a ship. And they always commemorate and venerate them after each war. This is really admirable.

    I strongly recommend to you this book of an Englishman: "Churchill and the End of Glory" by John Charmley.

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    Arrow Re: The noble enemies of Germany

    "When the National Socialists and their friends cry or whisper that this [the war] is brought about by Jews, they are perfectly right." - The Jewish magazine Sentinel of Chicago (8 October 1940)


    "For months now the struggle against Germany is waged by each Jewish community at each conference in all our syndicates and by each Jew all over the world. There is reason to believe that our part in this struggle has general value. We will start a spiritual and material war of all the world against Germany's ambitions to become once again a great nation, to recover lost territories and colonies. But our Jewish interests demand Germany's total destruction, collectively and individually. The German nation is a threat to us Jews."
    - Vladimir Jabotinsky, founder of the Irgun Zvai Leumi terrorist organisation, Mascha Rjetach(January 1934)


    "Even if Hitler at the last moment would want to avoid war which would destroy him he will, in spite of his wishes, be compelled to wage war." - Emil Ludwig Cohen in his book The New Holy Alliance( Strasburg, 1938)


    "It is our task to organise the moral and cultural blockade of Germany and disperse this nation. It is up to us to start a merciless war."
    - Bernard Lechache in The Right to Live (December 1938)


    "The millions of Jews living in America, England, France, North Africa and South, not forgetting Palestine, have decided to carry on the war in Germany to the very end. It is to be a war of extermination." - 'The Jewish newspaper Central Blad Voor Israeliten in Nederlands (13 September 1939)



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    Re: The noble enemies of Germany

    Quote Originally Posted by Tabitha View Post
    Bomber Harris famously said: "Germany has sown the wind and now they will reap the whirlwind." This was a direct reference to the German bombing of London - a residential city, that triggered the Allied response of eventually bombing Germany cities.
    That's good British propaganda you're repeating verbatim there, well done you've watched a few documentaries on the History Channel.

    Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain had given an assurance that:
    'The British Government would never resort to the deliberate attack on women and children and other civilians for the purpose of mere terrorism.'
    However, his successor Winston Churchill appointed as his personal adviser the Jew Professor Lindemann, a man with a pathological hatred for Nazi Germany, and an almost medieval desire for revenge that was part of his character.

    Lindemann, later Lord Cherwell, suggested the bombing of German cities and that working class areas were legitimate targets, and from then onwards the last vestiges of civilised decency in warfare were abandoned.

    These bombings began on 10 August 1940 with the bombing of the small open town of Freiburg on the Swiss frontier. Fifty-three civilians were killed, including twenty children playing in the park. It was reported by Mr. Taylor of the American Red Cross in the New York Times of 3 May 1940.

    This was before the Germans began bombing British cities. Mr. J. M. Speight, CBE, Principal Secretary to the Air Ministry, wrote in his book The Splendid Decision:
    'Adolf Hitler only undertook the bombing of British civilian targets reluctantly after the RAF had commenced bombing German civilian targets... It gave Coventry, Birmingham, Sheffield and Southampton the right to look Kiev, Kharkov, Stalingrad and Sebastopol in the face. Our Soviet allies would have been less critical of our inactivity if they had understood what we had done... Hitler would have been willing at my time to stop the slaughter. Hitler was genuinely anxious to reach with Britain an agreement confining the action of aircraft to battle zones.'
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