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    Post Is National Socialism 'Racist'?

    It is the common view that the Aryan political philosophy of National Socialism [NS] is the most 'racist' form of government there is.

    But we should be suspicious of this view, as it derives from the establishment, which in the West is thoroughly Judaised, and therefore non-Aryan in character.

    I claim that NS is not 'racist', and that those who join it thinking that it is a vehicle for their resentment, are sorely misguided.

    I received guidance on this issue from David Myatt, probably the best NS philosopher since F.P. Yockey.
    Myatt says;

    "A true, genuine, National Socialist does not go around 'hating' people of other races, just as National Socialists are not disrespectful of the customs, the religion, the way of life, of people of other races; As I have said and written many times, we National Socialists respect other cultures, and people of other races, because we uphold Honour".
    [David Myatt, 'Why NS Is Not Racist']

    Ah yes, Honour!

    In political terms, this leaves us open to making alliances with others, surely something necessary if power is to be regained.
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    I agree with you on this issue. The Myatt quotation embodies the true spirit of National Socialism and honourable Racialism in my opinion, but obviously when you see your Societies swarming with foreigners some resentment would grow for sure.

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    Post Resentment

    From their resentment towards the Noble races, the Jews distilled the cup of their Moral Poison.
    This resentful broth was brought to the boil by the Christianity of the Jew Saint Paul [Saul].

    These Semitic ideals of rancour can be traced from the Talmud to the Communist Manifesto and The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion.

    Therefore Racial Nationalists musn't fall into the Jewish trap of resentment; the Jew, by creating the conditions for resentment amongst Aryans seeks thereby to Judaise non-Jews.

    IF your view is that Nations should be organised on the basis of ethnicity, then the onus is on YOU, more than anyone else not to fall into the trap of race-hate; if that happens you uglify which are in reality beautiful principles.

    So Myatt is putting forward a Morality - a Master Morality, in contrast to Semitic Slave Morality.
    As Nietzsche shows, the Master is without resentment; he takes joy in his abundant and over-flowing nature.
    His Master Morality does not extend outside his own caste of course, and it will seem that he deals harshly, but fairly, to out-siders; but the Aryan ['Noble'] is never beset by resentment.

    Once he catches this disease he starts to fight amongst his own kind; his hatred of Blacks is quickly extended to a hatred of White subraces. In this context, Noble political action is impossible.

    [see F.W. Nietzsche, 'On The Genealogy of Morality']
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    Post Re: Resentment

    [QUOTE]Originally posted by Moody Lawless
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    IF your view is that Nations should be organised on the basis of ethnicity, then the onus is on YOU, more than anyone else not to fall into the trap of race-hate;


    Define 'race hate' ?,
    the wish to have a white homeland?,
    that wish of mine happens to be Ireland.

    A trap?
    How come?I believe it's only natural to be as i am and abnormal to be other.

    I think you may be falling for the trap the media use of calling us 'White Supremacist's',instead of separatist's.
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    National Socialism is a doctrine/belief not open to debate.
    The beliefs of National Socialism are clearly laid out in Mein Kampf.
    National Socialism is a supremacist movement.
    It is a movement that believes in the superiority of the Aryan race over all others.
    David Myatt's wishy washy view's are not true N.S, but some sort of liberalised White Nationalism.

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    As long as you don't wish to reign dominion over others, then White Nationalism is not racism.
    http://www.hoffman-info.com/communist.html

    To give the other side of history, the revisionist side--to give voice to the voiceless millions of dead victims of Jewish Communism--is regarded as "hateful" by the vain Zionists who demand for themselves the right to vomit forth a daily barrage of sewage upon the sacred memory of our grandparents and ancestors. To defend against the dishonoring of our heritage and our ancestors, is surely not hate; it is the right of self-defense against psychological warfare.

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    One of the things that really disturbs me about alot of "racialist" message boards, organizations, and people, is the amount of hatred which is brandished about and justified with various excuses.
    The fact that there are so many people in our movement who can talk endlessly about "the jew" and "stupid niggers", but who know next to nothing about the history and traditions of their people, points to a huge problem.
    It shows that the motivation of these people is all wrong. Their whole world-view is largely nothing more than one big justification for their own mental imbalances and feelings of helplessness.
    If we ever want our movement to start gaining real strength, then it is time to show strength. And true strength - Heroism - is always the by-product of Love. Hating "niggers", crying about historical events, and "heiling Hitler" 50 years after the mans death, are not helping us....so maybe it's time we stop doing these things.
    Lets build a positive foundation based on a true Understanding of who and what we are.

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    Post Inferiority

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    When you hate, you raise the object of your hate up to your own level - you are then no longer superior to it.
    This is ignoble and a product of resentment.

    2.
    You don't win a war - or even a fight, by burning with hate. You must be cool, calm and collected, and achieve your objectives with the minimum of fuss.

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    In Mein Kampf Hitler talks in a historical context of those Aryan cultures who were plainly superior to their contemporaries on a cultural, technological, political and a philosophical level.
    He regarded the Romans to be superior to the German barabrians during the healthy days of the Empire, for example; and was embarrassed by Himmler's Teutonic archeological excavations, which merely confirmed that the Germans were culturally inferior to the Romans and the Greeks AT THAT TIME.

    There is no way that making such judgements involves hate.

    Also, Hitler would not consider today's White civilisation to be superior; he would find it to be grossly inferior to that of the present-day Muslims who are willing to fight the Jew to the death; - unlike many of today's Whites who acquiesce in one way or another to the Bushite's "war against terror" [also known as 'war to save Israel', or 'the Axis of Oil'].

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    Political objectives such as a White Homeland can only achieved politically.
    Those who become addicted to hate so much that they start to attack fellow Whites are preventing the achievement of such political goals. Indeed I suspect that they don't even want to accomplish such goals, as they will have one less thing to whine about.
    These haters just need someone or something to hate; ultimately they have an inferiority complex.
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    Post honesty be praised

    so you are a gasbag
    just what the cause needs another head up his arse solitary thinker,i think not

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    Post Thank You - But Why Do You Bother To Write?

    I didn't expect you to understand me, my good fellow, but I will persevere.

    What I am saying is this;
    There are many different arenas for a struggle to be carried on.

    These include the streets,where pugnacious bruisers like yourself can rough and tumble to your heart's content.
    In that arena I don't doubt that insults and hate are part and parcel of the medium, because you meet your adversary face to face, and so have to prove your 'argument' in the only way possible.

    But there is also another arena, that of intellectual exchange, carried on in writing; this has been going on at least since Plato's dialogues; the internet forum is another extension of this arena.
    Here ideas are put to the test in a struggle of minds; successful ideas, by an almost Darwinian law, then take on a life of their own and pervade the Culture.

    Now, for a man to enter an exchange of ideas as if he were in a street fight is absurd; just as it is absurd for a philosopher to take part in a duel only armed with a copy of Rosenberg's 'Mythos', while his opponent is armed with a petrol bomb or an axe.

    So, my dear Mick, it is YOU who are out of their element, not I.
    And sadly, all you can contribute to this discussion is the rather ironic self-caricature of a brain-less hater.

    But I thank you for it.
    Last edited by Moody; Wednesday, March 5th, 2003 at 05:57 PM.
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