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    What does an Anglo-Saxon occiput look like compared to Phallian and Trønder occiputs? I am trying to further classify myself and family members. I would appreciate any insights.

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    I can't say about the occiput for sure but there are other features to identify them with. Tronder:

    "Jämtland). The western Norwegian inland contains a similar population, albeit one in which the Brünn element is much stronger and the Battle-Axe strain is at times negligible. One exeption to this western rule is the population of Hardanger, which is strikingly long-headed, and which seems to be of predominantly Battle-Axe and Nordic type. In this Hardanger type the Brünn strain is more masked.

    The Trønder is the tallest of the Norwegian racial types, which also makes it one of Europe's tallest. It is a slender type, although not as slender as the local Hallstatt Nordic, and its bones are larger and heavier than what is typically Nordic. Due to a strong sexual dimorphism, Trønder females are seldom correspondingly big-boned. The head form is high mesocephalic (c.i. typically 78-80; with the exeption of the Hardanger type, which is dolicho-mesocephalic), and the face is of considerable length. The forehead is very high, and at the same time both broader and much less sloping than that of the Hallstatt Nordic. Frontal bosses, a non-Nordic trait, are frequently found, and the temporal region is much fuller. In addition, the transitions from frontal to temporal and frontal to parietal regions are smooth and difficult to find, whereas on the Nordic head they are clearly marked.

    The nose is typically straight or convex, with a wide display of wavy forms (the Hardanger type is, for instance, frequently convex-nosed), and the transition between bone and cartilage is difficult to locate without palpation (feeling with the fingers), another feature which serves to distinguish the general Trønder type from the local Nordic.

    The zygomatic arches of the Trønder type are less prominent than those of the Hallstatt Nordic, and the gonial angles are compressed and not visible. The skull is more rounded and the occiput less prominently curved than that of the Nordic type.

    The Trønder is one of the world's bluest-eyed racial types - light-mixed blue is the predominant eye color. The hair is wavy and ranges in color from brown to golden blond. Rufosity is common, whereas ash-blond shades, a typical Hallstatt Nordic trait, are rarer. The skin is coarser in texture and tougher than regular Nordic skin, and the hair is more abundant on beard and body."

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    About Anglo-saxons:

    "This tall, broad-shouldered and characteristically blond type is - morphologically - an overgrown Hallstatt Nordic, with a large head and face, as well as more than average-sized hands and feet. The face is long, and shows a marked skeletal relief, giving it a somewhat rugged and angular impression. The nose is large, very leptorrhine, and usually straight, with a convex minority. The lips are rather thin.

    The Anglo-Saxon type is over-all mesocephalic, with a minor tendency towards brachycephaly undoubtedly caused by the Upper Palaeolithic strains. Likewise, the forehead is high and the browridges heavy, and the jaw is prominent. Both Brünn and Borreby features are visible.

    The Anglo-Saxon hair color range runs from golden blond to medium brown, with the latter in the majority. There is a minor tendency towards rufosity, but much less so than is the case with the Trønder type, with which the Anglo-Saxon may be compared in many respects. The eyes are pure blue or light-mixed."

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    About Fälish:

    "This intermediate Borreby-Nordic variety is, morphologically, Nordic in all essential features, but broader both in bodily dimensions and in the lateral dimensions of the head and face, just as one would expect from the infusion of a Borreby strain.

    The short-headedness of the Borreby type carries over in some degree to the Fälish, which is typically sub-brachycephalic and not seldom brachycephalic. The facial and upper facial indices are mesoprosopic and mesene to euryene, while the nasal index is moderately leptorrhine. The nose profile is usually straight, but there are local tendencies toward convexity and snub-nosed concavity.

    The pigmentation of the Fälish group is as light as that of any Nordic population. The hair is typically golden blond, the eyes blue."

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    Post Re: Anglo-Saxon vs. Trønder vs. Phallian?

    It's hard to explain. The Anglo-Saxon is a mixture. The Fälish is a Cro-Magnon type itself. SNPA's Fälish examples are something they made up.

    The Trönder is more high-skulled. I hope the attached picture of the Trönder man from Bergslagen (Dalarna), Sweden will help you.



    Originally posted by NordischesBlutundEhre
    What does an Anglo-Saxon occiput look like compared to Phallian and Trønder occiputs? I am trying to further classify myself and family members. I would appreciate any insights.

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    Thats pretty high skulled.....

    Yeah the Anglo-saxons are a mix of Hallstatt, Brünn and a few Borreby elements. Anglo-Saxon is more brunet but still blonds are present, Brünns usually have either red or brown hair, but I found that blond is also present in small numbers. Tronders are commonly light red haired.

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