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  • All Celtic/Gaulish

    1 1.03%
  • All Teutonic/Germanic

    0 0%
  • All Latin

    1 1.03%
  • Mostly Celtic/Gaulish, partially Teutonic/Germanic, minimally Latin

    39 40.21%
  • Mostly Celtic/Gaulish, partially Latin, minimally Teutonic/Germanic

    29 29.90%
  • Mostly Teutonic/Germanic, partially Celtic/Gaulish, minimally Latin

    4 4.12%
  • Mostly Teutonic/Germanic, partially Latin, minimally Celtic/Gaulish

    1 1.03%
  • Mostly Latin, partially Teutonic/Germanic, minimally Celtic/Gaulish

    5 5.15%
  • Mostly Latin, partially Celtic/Gaulish, minimally Teutonic/Germanic

    14 14.43%
  • None of the above

    3 3.09%
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    Question What Is The Superethnic/Metaethnic Identity Of MOST Frenchmen/women?

    Attached is a poll question: "What is the superethnic/metaethnic identity of MOST Frenchmen/women?"

    I say mostly Celtic/Gaulish, partially Teutonic/Germanic, & minimally Latin.

    Feel free to vote if you wish. This is a public poll, BTW.

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    Post Re: What Is The Superethnic/Metaethnic Identity Of MOST Frenchmen/women?

    Normandy and Alsace-Lorraine have a strong Teutonic/Germanic element to their ethnic make-up, but these regions are the exceptions within France. The Teutonic/Germanic element of the rest of France was very largely concentrated in the upper classes, which were very nearly exterminated during the French revolution. The vast majority of French people today, in my view, should be thought of as Gallo-Romans, in that they are basically of Gaulish/Celtic ethnicity, but have a language and culture heavily influenced by the Latin south of Europe, with the Latin component perhaps relatively more prevalent in the southern than the northern regions of the country.

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    The majority of the French are undoubtably Celtic in metaethinicty/superethnicity. The Teutonic and Latin components are pretty much restricted to certain areas. Normandy and Alsace-Lorraine are for the most part very Teutonic/Gaulish oriented from dialect, to appearance and culture I believe. The south of France is certainly the most Latin by blood and culture. In the early days the Aquitainian region was the region most detached from Germanic Francia. Today's French culture is neither really. In my eyes it is a hybrid culture that is not truly French and the people of France, depending on their region, should seek out their original culture.

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    Post Re: What Is The Superethnic/Metaethnic Identity Of MOST Frenchmen/women?

    Also find it quite amusing to note that most French racialists don't seem to identify with the Latin people. Just compare those in the ANH section to those in the Gens Romana langue d'oïl section. I don't think a single poster there is French in any shape or form, most seem to identify with their Celtic or Norman roots.

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    Post Re : What Is The Superethnic/Metaethnic Identity Of MOST Frenchmen/women?

    I voted :

    Mostly Celtic/Gaulish, partially Teutonic/Germanic, minimally Latin

    Personally, as a French, racially speaking, I feel Celto-Germanic, and culturally speaking, Latino-Germanic.

    France is about 60% Celtic, 25% Germanic and 15% Latin.
    Anyway this depends on the areas : Brittany is about to be 100% Celtic, Corsica and Provence are about to be 100% Latin and Alsace-Lorraine is about to be 100% Germanic. Of course I speak about the native of these regions (Interregional migrations are important in France). The Germanic elements are largely concentrated in the North, where Franks settled (regions : Nord, Picardie, Normandie, Ile-de-France, Lorraine, Champagne, Centre, partly Pays de la Loire) but also Burgondians (Bourgogne, Franche-Comté, Rhône-Alpes) and Alemanics (Alsace). There are some Germanic traces in the South-West (Wisigoths in Poitou-Charentes, Aquitaine, Midi-Pyrénées). The Celtic element is the strongest in the West (of course especially in Brittany).
    So to make it short, the North and the North-West are mostly Germanic with a strong Celtic element, the West and the Centre is mostly Celtic with an important Germanic element, the South-East (Provence and Languedoc) is mostly Latin with some Celtic traces. Anyway nowadays this distribution is less and less true, since interregional migrations are changing ethnic regional identities.


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    Post Re: What Is The Superethnic/Metaethnic Identity Of MOST Frenchmen/women?

    I'm from northern italy ; mostly CELTIC with a certain germanic and latin influence. Probably, it's not different fron central France. I consider me like Celtic by blood (culturally a bit romanized )

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    Post Re : Re: What Is The Superethnic/Metaethnic Identity Of MOST Frenchmen/women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Tiger
    I'm from northern italy ; mostly CELTIC with a certain germanic and latin influence. Probably, it's not different fron central France. I consider me like Celtic by blood (culturally a bit romanized )
    Well, French and Padanians are brothers.
    We are both mostly Celtic with some Germanic influences and a Latin culture.
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    Post Re: What Is The Superethnic/Metaethnic Identity Of MOST Frenchmen/women?

    I don't know. I know more of the lingual history and evolution of Franks and Frankish to French, but I couldn't really say what the average French person is or what most French are.


    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Tiger
    I'm from northern italy ; mostly CELTIC with a certain germanic and latin influence. Probably, it's not different fron central France. I consider me like Celtic by blood (culturally a bit romanized )
    Don't forget about the Langobardians [Longobardi], they were as Germanic as they came - and there are still many that have preserved the beautiful south Scandinavian derived heritage.

    You'll still find a lot of Langobardian-derived names in Northern Italy, even in the south from time to time (they ruled over almost all of Italy at some time).

    It really depends, in Northern Italy. Veneto, Liguria are probably predominantly (Gaul-)Celtic, whereas Lombardia [Lombardy] and Emilio-Romagna are predominantly Germanic (that is, speaking of the original people and excluding the migrated Southern Italian diaspora).
    Last edited by Aistulf; Saturday, March 26th, 2005 at 03:21 PM.

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    Post Re : Re: What Is The Superethnic/Metaethnic Identity Of MOST Frenchmen/women?

    It really depends, in Northern Italy. Veneto, Liguria are probably predominantly (Gaul-)Celtic, whereas Lombardia [Lombardy] and Emilio-Romagna are predominantly Germanic (that is, speaking of the original people and excluding the migrated Southern Italian diaspora).
    Interesting, what is your opinion about Piemonte (Piedmont), and also Toscana (Tuscany) ?
    I guess Friuli is similar to Veneto, with perhaps Slavic admixture, and Trentino predominantly Germanic ?

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    Mostly Celtic/Gaulish, partially Latin, minimally Teutonic/Germanic - They like to think they're Germanics though
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