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    1 1.03%
  • Mostly Celtic/Gaulish, partially Teutonic/Germanic, minimally Latin

    39 40.21%
  • Mostly Celtic/Gaulish, partially Latin, minimally Teutonic/Germanic

    29 29.90%
  • Mostly Teutonic/Germanic, partially Celtic/Gaulish, minimally Latin

    4 4.12%
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    5 5.15%
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    Post Re : Re: Re : Re: What Is The Superethnic/Metaethnic Identity Of MOST Frenchmen/women?

    Interesting posts, Celtic Tiger and Kening Redbad. :tthumbsup

    Quote Originally Posted by Kening Redbad
    The Germanics, or Teutons, more or less forced out a lot of Celts (like they did everywhere they came).
    No, not here in Gaul.
    Also, another question, after Charlemagne's conquest of Padania in 774, did some Franks settle in these regions ?
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    Post Re : Re: Re : Re: What Is The Superethnic/Metaethnic Identity Of MOST Frenchmen/women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Celtic Tiger
    Those populations were of Atlanto-Med appearence, phenotypically.

    besides we must note a notable residual of pre-celtic phenotypical element [...] Indeed, on the Ligurian coast, there is a notable Atlanto-Med or Litorid component
    Huh, so Atlanto-Meds are of pre-Celtic descent ? I ask this because Alsatian people are, according to the "experts" ( ), mostly Atlanto-Med and North-Atlantoid, with a strong Nordid element and some minor Alpinid and Dinarid influence.
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    Post Re: What Is The Superethnic/Metaethnic Identity Of MOST Frenchmen/women?

    This is similar to the earliest racial disposition of the British Isles. Looking at the dates for things such as the creation of Stonehenge, these were constructed before the Celts had reached ancient Britain, and before the Indo-Aryan language speakers including the Celts had completed the replacement of ancient native western European ethnicities.

    Most of what I have read suggests these aboriginal Europeans in this area were Atlanto-Med, Paleo-Atlantid, & North-Atlantid. Celtic migration, Roman occupation, and Germanic conquest, and the various phenotypes they brought with them are relative new comers to western Europe.

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    Post Re: Re : Re: What Is The Superethnic/Metaethnic Identity Of MOST Frenchmen/women?

    Quote Originally Posted by atlanto-med
    The boundary between the Italians and northern Italy is the Po Valley, which was occupied by the Celts and Teutons. Some parts of Padania arent really northern Italian regions.
    It depends by what you mean with Padania in geographical sense. Many consider Toscana and Umbria, part of northern Italy, for example, but i think the opposite, by the moment i consider these regions , part of central Italy, and not northern. Do you refer yourself to this ? Which parts of north Italy aren't really north ?

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    Post Re: Re : Re: What Is The Superethnic/Metaethnic Identity Of MOST Frenchmen/women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Celtic Tiger
    It depends by what you mean with Padania in geographical sense. Many consider Toscana and Umbria, part of northern Italy, for example, but i think the opposite, by the moment i consider these regions , part of central Italy, and not northern. Do you refer yourself to this ? Which parts of north Italy aren't really north ?
    Thats what I meant. The border of Padania and central Italy should be around the Po river, and exclude both Tuscany and Umbria, and certain other regions of Italy thast have been included in Padania.

    The "official" map of Padania Ive seen included these regions of Italy wihin Padania. Any Padania that includes these regions of Italy would be more artificial than one that doesnt include them.

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    Post Re: Re : Re: What Is The Superethnic/Metaethnic Identity Of MOST Frenchmen/women?

    Quote Originally Posted by atlanto-med
    Thats what I meant. The border of Padania and central Italy should be around the Po river, and exclude both Tuscany and Umbria, and certain other regions of Italy thast have been included in Padania.

    The "official" map of Padania Ive seen included these regions of Italy wihin Padania. Any Padania that includes these regions of Italy would be more artificial than one that doesnt include them.
    Yeah, that's right. Probaly MARCHE, too. I'm very uncertain about Liguria, and its pre-celtic, Atlanto-Med population : many say that Liguria is part of Padania, while others not. Probably is in the middle.

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    Post Re: Re : Re: What Is The Superethnic/Metaethnic Identity Of MOST Frenchmen/women?

    Quote Originally Posted by atlanto-med
    Thats what I meant. The border of Padania and central Italy should be around the Po river, and exclude both Tuscany and Umbria, and certain other regions of Italy thast have been included in Padania.

    The "official" map of Padania Ive seen included these regions of Italy wihin Padania. Any Padania that includes these regions of Italy would be more artificial than one that doesnt include them.
    None of your concern anyway, as a Limey

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    Post Re: What Is The Superethnic/Metaethnic Identity Of MOST Frenchmen/women?

    On the whole I would say they are more less Nordic than GB. But France is a big country and really it depends on the region. Southern France is almost all Med/Alpine. North Eastern France almost all Nordic/Keltic.

    Is Latin here meant to be Med? I believe the Gauls too where significantly Med influenced.

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    Post Re : Re: Re : Re: What Is The Superethnic/Metaethnic Identity Of MOST Frenchmen/women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Celtic Tiger
    Yeah, that's right. Probaly MARCHE, too. I'm very uncertain about Liguria, and its pre-celtic, Atlanto-Med population : many say that Liguria is part of Padania, while others not. Probably is in the middle.
    Why wouldn't Liguria be part of Padania ?

    I think Padania includes Liguria, Lombardia, Piemonte, Emilia Romagna, Veneto, Friuli Venezia Giulia and Trentino Alto Adige (Valle d'Aosta being French).

    http://img92.exs.cx/img92/852/pad-industry.jpg



    http://www.bandierquote=Berkanopopoli.com/padania.htm
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    Post Re: What Is The Superethnic/Metaethnic Identity Of MOST Frenchmen/women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern_Paladin
    On the whole I would say they are more less Nordic than GB. But France is a big country and really it depends on the region. Southern France is almost all Med/Alpine. North Eastern France almost all Nordic/Keltic.

    Is Latin here meant to be Med? I believe the Gauls too where significantly Med influenced.
    Uh, from what i 've heard, meds from british isles are called "Atlantids". Therefore i think that the med component of Gauls was Atlantid too

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