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    Smile Were Vikings Cromagnids?

    There is a rumour that red hair is common in Britain becoz Vikings had red hair, and there were a lot of Viking raids in Britain. So the red haired people are actually descendants of Vikings.

    Is this true? I've heard red hair is typical for Bruenns. Which mean the red heads are Upper Paleolithic survivors. Or is there another source for red hair. I'm confused!

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    Those vikings sure got around. What about the 3000-year-old reddish-blond haired mummies found in the chinese desert?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrystalRose View Post
    Those vikings sure got around. What about the 3000-year-old reddish-blond haired mummies found in the chinese desert?
    Oh yeah Thanks for bringing it up. I was wondering whether the hair of mummies turn red becoz of natural depigmentation of hair when left for such a long time, or is that not the case.

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    You have to include the prospect that certain civilisations regularly died their hair red in aid towards fashion and cultural pressures.
    It is argued that the hair of Mummies which are proclaimed by some to be Europeans by virtue of having red hair are merely the signs of natural decay.

    As concerns to the initial question: I have been led to believe that the natives of Britannia (the Picts) were of red hair and were from the stock of the Scandinavian shores, but conclusive evidence has yet to be asserted and until then it is mere speculation.

    Red hair seems to be a common factor within all Northern European folk, whether Germanic or Celtic.

    As for being Cromagnid? Wait for OEN or Agrippa!
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    When did Vikings become an own ethnic group? Vikings were of Norwegian (and to a certain degree Swedish and Danish) stock, and looked more or less the same as today.

    And I believe red hair was common among Brits before any Vikings arrived. What about Boudica? The Celtic queen that led the famous resistance movement against the Romans was a redhead.

    So, the Spanish navy dropped by earlier with some red haired ones before they dropped of the swarthy ones some centuries later...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeornWulfWer View Post
    Red hair seems to be a common factor within all Northern European folk, whether Germanic or Celtic.
    So are Germanic and Celtic really two types of racial groups or are they just two cultures having language barriers. This has always confused me and have never really found a proper answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeornWulfWer View Post
    I have been led to believe that the natives of Britannia (the Picts) were of red hair and were from the stock of the Scandinavian shores, but conclusive evidence has yet to be asserted and until then it is mere speculation.
    Strange. I've been led to believe the Picts were fairly swarthy and Med' in appearance - similar to the earlier Megalithic Britons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by teutonicscult View Post
    So are Germanic and Celtic really two types of racial groups or are they just two cultures having language barriers. This has always confused me and have never really found a proper answer.
    It's a hard one and one which can open cans of worm's, but I don't believe there is a difference between a 'Celtic' and a 'Germanic' person genetically, but culturally and linguistically only.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cythraul View Post
    Strange. I've been led to believe the Picts were fairly swarthy and Med' in appearance - similar to the earlier Megalithic Britons.
    It depends upon which source you wish to form your opinion around.

    An interesting article I found whilst Googling.

    In the UK red hair is generally associated with people of Celtic descent, i.e Scotland and Ireland. It is believed the people of Scotland came from 5 different ethnic groups who occupied or invaded northern Britain in the dark ages. In all of recorded history, red-haired people have never been mentioned as a group except by the Romans.

    The 'Picts' where foes who the Romans fought and were described as having red-hair and 'large limbs' by Roman historian Tacitus. Modern historians with the help of anthropologists have placed red-hair as a unique characteristic belonging to the Picts, who were characteristic to what is now regarded as Scottish.

    As far as the world-wide distribution of red-hair is concerned, it would be fair to say that the majority may well have descended from this North-Western European region, although as with all variations between people, mutations in genes can occur and be maintained in any population provided there is no detrimentus effect to the populations growth.

    Article cont. here
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeornWulfWer View Post
    It's a hard one and one which can open cans of worm's, but I don't believe there is a difference between a 'Celtic' and a 'Germanic' person genetically, but culturally and linguistically only.
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    Could you elaborate on this a little more? Do you mean now or in the past?

    The trouble is that these people did not leave much written in the form of histories, and that Roman historians were biased, much like the Greeks before them; the ancient classifications of Celtic and Germanic, on which much of the study is based on, are often unreliable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForwardEyes View Post
    Could you elaborate on this a little more? Do you mean now or in the past?

    The trouble is that these people did not leave much written in the form of histories, and that Roman historians were biased, much like the Greeks before them; the ancient classifications of Celtic and Germanic, on which much of the study is based on, are often unreliable.
    *Opens the can of worms*

    The Celts were a myriad of tribal units and races. To stipulate that one particular was "the Celtic one" is in my eyes unrealistic.
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