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    Promiscuous Women And Weak Men Are A Complementary Problem



    If you peruse Twitter long enough, you’ll eventually find a territory in which the sex wars rage. Men write about how women today are too promiscuous and unchaste, while women lament that many men are watching a lot of porn or simping after e-girls.

    It’s impossible to place blame on one gender because men and women are socially and psychologically interconnected. The frustration between the genders we see today is like a yin yang — both sexes are interdependent on each other. Gender relations will only be improved if each sex upholds its respective responsibilities.

    Women as Gatekeepers

    George Gilder wrote in Men and Marriage that “the male pattern of sexuality is the enemy of social stability.” Men are typically the ones who push and pursue sex while women are in the role of sexual gatekeeper. This means women decide which men get sex and which men don’t. Traditionally, women gatekept sex because sex is a much riskier endeavor for a woman (her emotions are more intricately involved and pregnancy could happen).

    Since the sexual revolution “liberated” women from men, more and more women have given up the role of selector/reproductive gatekeeper and adopted a male attitude toward sex. In short, they act slutty. It’s now a norm for young women to wear revealing clothing and to act openly promiscuously. Sites like OnlyFans in which women offer sexual content to men for money grew from 7 million to 85 million users in 2020.

    The Long Game and Social Stability

    What are the consequences of this? It might sound extreme, but the truth is that “slut-shaming” existed for a reason. Women who act promiscuously are failing to play the long game and are jeopardizing the stability of society.

    This is because men are motivated by women — access to sex regulates male behavior. If men are expected by society to court women before sex is an option, both parties are better off. Men feel they have a purpose, and women feel they’re cherished for their feelings and value. When women offer sex easily, whether online in the form of sexual imagery or in the form of hookup culture, men don’t have to regulate their behavior as much in order to get what they want. This is why “she’s easy” was an insult of the past; when women make sex too readily available, they’re jeopardizing male discipline and training men to not act gentlemanly before they get access to sex. Women who do this are doing a disservice to other women as much as they are to themselves.

    Men as Providers

    While women need to hold the lines on offering their sexuality, men need to do their part by not enabling promiscuity culture in the form of watching porn or paying girls on OnlyFans for sexual content. Men are not always aware of this, but they feel as though they like this behavior because they are tricking themselves into thinking they’ve fulfilled the “provider” role without actually doing so. Paying for and, er, “watching” porn briefly tricks the male brain into thinking he’s played the part of a loving husband, but it’s not the real thing. Porn acts like a drug on the brain, and eventually, men desensitize themselves to good normal women and normal sex because internet erotica is easily available and offers endless dopamine hits. Men may gain some short term satisfaction through porn, but they’re actually jeopardizing that which would give their life warmth and meaning in the long term — a stable relationship.

    Men need to say no, much like women need to say no, but to different things. Men need to resist the temptation of internet “simping” and watching sexual content online in order to not encourage women to give up their virtue (because this hurts women). They also need to say no to things that could desensitize themselves to being able to recognize a high-quality, virtuous woman who they can provide for and build a life with.

    Yin and Yang

    Good male/female relationships require both sexes to exercise self-control. While women may enjoy the attention they get from lots of internet fans or having a lot of sexual partners, and while men might get a dopamine hit from watching porn or paying an e-girl for dirty pictures, in the long term this is a bad strategy for fulfillment and happiness. Men and women are interdependent beings. Like yin interacting with yang, men and women are complements and affect one another on an individual and societal level. If we want to alleviate the frustration each sex feels toward the other, both will have to take responsibility for their part in the situation.

    The genders can’t behave without affecting one another, much as certain forces try to tell us that they can be fully independent of one another.

    Closing Thoughts

    If we keep in mind that the actions of one affect the actions of many, perhaps the culture of promiscuity can gradually change. A culture of personal and social responsibility and courtship could be the antidote for the frustration felt by many men and women.

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    That's a great column and it's from Eviemagazine.

    Just one thing: men occasionally watching spicy movies is not as bad as women being occasionally promiscuous, as far as mental health and the ability to form healthy, functional relationships goes, that stands to reason I would think. Men simping for e-girls is a bigger problem. Paying is enabling; it is considerably worse and more far reaching in its consequences.

    There are behaviours which we can't switch off: men between the ages of 18-35 will jump at the chance to have sex or a surrogate for it. Women, especially of that age, will seek men's validation and adoration (or a surrogate for it). If these behaviours aren't strictly canalised society is doomed, our ancestors knew what they were doing. And we haven't hit rock bottom yet, that's for after the pandemic and the next decade, when unemployed hairdressers make a choice between becoming wives or e-girls or grifters of some type. Pessimism seems warranted here.
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    If you peruse Twitter long enough, you’ll eventually find a territory in which the sex wars rage. Men write about how women today are too promiscuous and unchaste, while women lament that many men are watching a lot of porn or simping after e-girls.
    I don't think these two different sides are fueling each other. Promiscuity was already rife before internet porn, and I don't see the rationale that men watching porn makes women more easy. And a girl starting up an Only Fans is probably going to lead to less physical promiscuity taking place, as she already gets the validation (and money?) she craves online.

    Men need to say no, much like women need to say no, but to different things. Men need to resist the temptation of internet “simping” and watching sexual content online in order to not encourage women to give up their virtue (because this hurts women). They also need to say no to things that could desensitize themselves to being able to recognize a high-quality, virtuous woman who they can provide for and build a life with.
    I feel women are more corrupted by modernity than men on this count. The amount of absolutely horrid partner choices I see among women is some times staggering. Perfectly functional women who seek out a partner among the lowest of the low, or men with the most psychopathic personality traits. Either "female intuition" is just a lie, or there's a lot of women out there who actively pursue their own emotional detriment.

    Identifying a high-quality, virtuous woman isn't hard. It's the one who doesn't openly flex her past sexual exploits, doesn't use her body as a sales pitch, and favors other discussion topics beside her psychological diagnoses.
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    The interaction between men and women isn't the only relevant piece here. You also have to look at how other men and other women react to these behaviors. When I was growing up, slut-shaming was mostly something girls did to each other. Sure, we knew no boy worth having would really get serious with a slut but beyond that guys didn't seem to care. We were the ones who didn't want trashy girls around and our mothers wouldn't let them in the house. That wasn't that long ago. It was just the 90s. These days, a lot of women have this "Yass Queen!" attitude that celebrates the trashiest of the trashy and says that if my husband and I don't allow our daughter to be exposed to a drug addicted, obese mestiza or a Negress stripper and gang member who used to drug and rob men or a coalburning half-Berber Sicilian who shows her underwear then that means we don't want her to grow up proud to be a woman or to support other women. The exact opposite is true!

    There were women as trashy as Demi Lovato and Cardi B and Ariana Grande when I was a kid but they were for boys to oggle and girls to roll their eyes at if they say them at all. No one wanted to grow up to be Pamela Anderson. She was a joke. These days, the target audience is little girls who are expected to emulate that trashy behavior and too many of their peers validate it and too many of their parents either allow it or don't pay attention. It's grotesque.

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    We call it the sexualization of young children that will later support consumer products from music purchases to excessive make-up to trashy clothing in the name of current fashion. Some will also want implants and body piercings at 18 and get ridiculous tattoos that will cost thousands dollars to remove when they want to be respectable parents one day. Half will end up pregnant with Mestizos babies so I see that often among the young adult and grandparents.

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