2020 POTUS Election: Trump v Biden ("The Steal")

[Emma of Normandy]

https://www.unz.com/anepigone/republ...mp-to-concede/
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Republicans Do Not Want Trump to Concede





From these graphs we can deduce that something like 10% of Republicans and independents doubt the election was on the up-and-up but want Trump to concede anyway. “For the good of the country”, it is common to hear these Washington Generals say.

This national split exists despite a full court press from all the approved sources of information and entertainment to treat the election results as final and Trump’s refusal to concede as dangerously dictatorial. Half the country is impervious to the mendacity–and the veracity–of the corporate media. It is incorrect to say the media has no influence. That suggests indifference. Instead, the media’s influence is negative. If the media reports it, half the country assumes the opposite to be true.

It’s really something to see the people who spent the last four years denying the integrity of the 2016 election decrying the other half of the country for refusing to accept the integrity of this one. Reaping what is sown, chickens coming home to roost, taking something and then paying for it–the aphorisms are unending. The US as it is currently constituted, however, is not unending.

The independent numbers there really cheer me up. I'd like it better if more than half were on our side but they're pretty well divided. It's not just Republicans with a partisan purpose out here fighting this.

[Theunissen]

The independent numbers there really cheer me up. I'd like it better if more than half were on our side but they're pretty well divided. It's not just Republicans with a partisan purpose out here fighting this.

It's significant that Republicans are more divided on the issue than Demoncrats.

But that's to be expected since they have air-superiority to some extent via the media and even the tech companies. Their underlying ideology has been established as well - even into the GOP, mind you.

[Emma of Normandy]

It's significant that Republicans are more divided on the issue than Demoncrats.

But that's to be expected since they have air-superiority to some extent via the media and even the tech companies. Their underlying ideology has been established as well - even into the GOP, mind you.

Especially since Fox, the main news source for most ordinary Republican voters, has totally cucked on this.

[Astragoth]

Especially since Fox, the main news source for most ordinary Republican voters, has totally cucked on this.

From what I've heard Fox lost 50% of its viewership over this.

[Emma of Normandy]

From what I've heard Fox lost 50% of its viewership over this.

Hopefully that will stick even as the betrayal becomes less fresh.

[Æmeric]

Especially since Fox, the main news source for most ordinary Republican voters, has totally cucked on this.

Rupert Murdoch has essentially turned over Fox to his socialite sons. They are part of the Manhattan cocktail circuit.

Over 1/2 of Americans believe the election was fixed, including those who didn't vote because "voting doesn't matter". But it is eerily peaceful at the moment but if Biden tries to use force against the public (for whatever reasons) he's going to get push back.

[Emma of Normandy]

Rupert Murdoch has essentially turned over Fox to his socialite sons. They are part of the Manhattan cocktail circuit.

Over 1/2 of Americans believe the election was fixed, including those who didn't vote because "voting doesn't matter". But it is eerily peaceful at the moment but if Biden tries to use force against the public (for whatever reasons) he's going to get push back.

If the Court accepts the fix, I don't think he'll have to. That is my worry. Kavanaugh and Alito are the only two of the "six conservative justices" I really trust to stand with the people on this.

[Theunissen]

Rupert Murdoch has essentially turned over Fox to his socialite sons. They are part of the Manhattan cocktail circuit.

Over 1/2 of Americans believe the election was fixed, including those who didn't vote because "voting doesn't matter". But it is eerily peaceful at the moment but if Biden tries to use force against the public (for whatever reasons) he's going to get push back.

The Fox News owners and directors probably believe that the wind will be turning drastically in the US and adjust their outlets tune accordingly. After all it's a business.

I believe that the elections were massively cooked as well. Especially the BLM-pogroms were possibly a mind changer to many that were undecided at first. At to this the obvious anti-Trump bias of most corporate media. And one gets the picture. The vitriolic anti-Trump rhetoric would have been affirming to never-Trumpers, but I imagine it was highly repulsive to anybody else.

[Verðandi]

Chris Roberts, American Renaissance, November 29, 2020

Perhaps you consider yourself an oracle,
Mouthpiece of the dead, or of some god or other.
Thirty years now I have labored
To dredge the silt from your throat.
I am none the wiser.
— Sylvia Plath, “The Colossus”

Dissidents who care about “America First” are divided over how to advance their goals now that the 2020 elections are over.





People debating this should know that the same debate has been had, on-and-off, since at least the end of Ronald Reagan’s second term. Anti-establishment leaders try to get the GOP nomination almost every cycle: Pat Roberts in 1988, Pat Buchanan in 1992 and 1996, Ron Paul in 2008 and 2012, etc. At the same time, some elected Republican are always trying to push the GOP towards more nationalist positions. In the 1990s, it was California Governor Pete Wilson, in the 2000s it was Alabama Senator Jeff Sessions, today it’s Missouri Senator Josh Hawley.



There have been several attempts to replace the GOP with a new party. The U.S. Taxpayers’ Party (now the Constitution Party) was founded in 1990 as an alternative to President Bush’s milquetoast conservatism. The Reform Party ran impressive presidential campaigns in 1992 and 1996, and a less impressive one in 2000. A full list of minor right-wing and racialist political parties would be tediously long. A few of the more famous ones include the American Independent Party, the American Freedom Party, and the National Justice Party.

None of these efforts, inside and outside the GOP, has worked. Donald Trump was the only exception — but his success had more to do with his star-power and media attention than the work of activists. Indeed, in 2016, more “anti-establishment” activists worked for Rand Paul and Ted Cruz than Mr. Trump. Moreover, once in office, Mr. Trump governed like a typical Republican in many ways, and has not ensured that the GOP will continue as an “America First” party.

Activists should think about the successes of interest groups. Organizations focused on one thing and that lobby for what they want, give legal help to constituents, and raise money for politicians who support them (or sometimes against politicians that oppose them) have much more influence than any third party or single Senator. The best examples are the National Rifle Association, the Home School Legal Defense Association, and the American Israel Public Affairs Committee. NumbersUSA is a single-issue group that focuses on immigration, and its efforts are credited — more than anything else — with derailing President George W. Bush’s pushes for amnesty. A similar group that concentrated on “affirmative action” (or any number of other issues) could prove just as powerful.

The debate over whether to transform the GOP or create something else is not new — and has never gotten anywhere. Dissidents should take a third path and create more pressure groups.

Amren

[jagdmesser]

SNIPPITS AND SNAPPITS 27 November 2020.