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    A dark horse has entered the race.

    “As brothers and sisters we knew instinctively that if we were going to stand in darkness, best we stand in a darkness we had made ourselves.” - Douglas Coupland

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    My big problem with Trump is that he continues and even magnifies USA gifting to Israel! He even passed a Holohoax education thing for schools during this chaotic time!


    I'm losing patience with him regarding him being really some kind of authentic voice standing up to corruption ... versus him being just another controlled Zionist puppet!


    However, that being said, I still hope he wins and not these pathetic leftist Demobrats who suck up to all this violence and choas from mouthy Markists who think they know everything and yet can't comprehend how murderous the 85% Jewish Bolsheviks really were during the Russian Takeover!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astragoth View Post
    His opinions aren't that abnormal for most leftists. They hate us and everything about us.
    You cant even were a MAGA hat without putting your life on the line.
    I think Biden will be steamrolled and when its clear he'll lose I think
    the communists/liberals will start a civil war.
    Yes I detect an almost irrational (ok not "almost"!) reaction to Trump amongst the Left ..... they even went through phase of him being lik Hitler (or their historically distorted concept of Hitler promoted by endless media and Jewish-owned Hollywood)


    I personally and not attached to any political side ... I was against George Bush and his neocons (many Jews!) and their push for wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, etc). Obama and Hillarity Clinton on the left were in the same group.


    These people left or right are traitors and liars , swindlers, ..... all this lop should rightfully be hanging from poles for how they lied to the American people!


    This clip sums up m opinion of he Left ... Hillary Clinton being told of Muammar Gaddafi's violent murder! .... We came , we saw, he died .... laughing of glee! I wonder how many Hillary lovers actually saw this clip?!


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    One interesting thing I heard is the reason they picked up Gislene Maxwell is they were planning on using what dirt she
    has on Trump. In that case we might not even make it to an election in November.
    I think the Left would literally plunge the US into a civil war rather than see Trump win.

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    Biden’s 2020 Party Platform Proposal Seeks to Abolish America’s Suburban Communities


    Joe Biden’s radical proposal for the Democrat Party platform for 2020 seeks to put an end to America’s suburban communities by forcing low-income housing into every neighborhood and flooding every community with immigrants, legal or otherwise.





    The proposal, known as the Biden-Sanders Unity Task Force Recommendations, would
    provide instant amnesty and a pathway to U.S. citizenship for the 22 million illegal aliens now living in the nation. Astoundingly, it would also give legal status to all the world’s refugees regardless of the legitimacy of their claim to the status.



    But on top of all that, Biden and Sanders are proposing that Barack Obama’s so-called Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing rules will be put into full force.


    For instance, in the “executive orders” section of the platform proposal, Biden/Sanders note that Biden would, “Implement the Obama-Biden Administration’s Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing Rule requiring communities receiving certain federal funding to proactively examine housing patterns and identify and address policies that have discriminatory effects.”


    The Biden/Sanders platform also scolds Trump, and says Biden would “Roll back Trump Administration policies gutting fair lending and fair housing protections.” In another section, the platform states Biden would: “Ensure effective and rigorous enforcement of the Fair Housing Act and the Home Mortgage Disclosure Act. Hold financial institutions accountable for discriminatory practices in the housing market.”


    With a longer explanation, the platform states:

    Democrats will vigorously enforce the Fair Housing Act and the Home Mortgage Disclosure Act and hold lenders accountable for discriminatory practices. We will use the federal government to enforce settlements against discriminatory lenders, and require communities to proactively review housing patterns and remedy local policies that have a discriminatory effect. Democrats will give local elected officials tools and resources to combat gentrification, penalize predatory lending practices, and maintain homeownership, including exploring targeted rental relief when exorbitant rent increases force long-term residents from their communities and tackling persistent racial bias in appraisals that contributes to the racial wealth gap.


    If you are unsure of what all this means, the Obama AFFH rules would force every single American city or town to add section 8 and so-called “low-income” housing in every community.


    Fox News host Tucker Carlson recently explained what the outcome of such a rule would mean for America’s suburban communities. Carlson said the Biden platform would: …make the rest of America very much like our biggest cities have become: squalid, dangerous, chaotic and unhappy. They’d like to do to your neighborhood what they have done to New York City. The main thing they’ve done to New York is make it scary. Violent crime is surging dramatically there, as we have told you night after night. none of the main reasons for that is the elimination of cash bail — the city no longer holds the people at arrests.


    The Fox host then added: Democrats want to abolish the suburbs. They are too clean and nice, and therefore by definition, they are racist. The Biden campaign has highly specific plans on how to do this. It’s called affirmatively furthering fair housing. It’s a HUD regulation, it was written during the Obama administration. Biden’s advisors plan to enforce it. They will cut off critical federal funds for municipalities unless those municipalities submit to federal control of urban planning. Towns will be ordered to abolish zoning for single-family housing because single-family homes, needless to say, are racist. Low-income federally subsidized apartments will go up in the suburbs. It’s a good bet you won’t see any of this. You won’t see projects being built in Aspen or Martha’s Vineyard or anywhere else Eric Holder vacations but in your neighborhood? Oh, yeah.


    The rules would make planning and building homes in every neighborhood the exclusive business of the federal government which would tell all of us how we are allowed to live, in what sort of homes, and where those homes are built.


    That is what you will be getting if Joe Biden wins in November.




    I can date this policy back to Britain in the mid 90s.
    It is an attempt to have no 'nice areas' at all; nothing to aspire to; nowhere to bring up a family safely.
    Its concomitant is the disbandment of police and the politicisation of court and welfare services by communists.
    It is the destruction of values: both property and personal.
    Abandon hope all ye who enter here !!!


    If Trump wins you watch what happens if the violence starts. He's President now and will be if he wins. That was not the case in 2016. My guess is his reaction will be swift and sure.
    The insurrection Act will be invoked immediately and the violence put down by any means necessary. My guess is there will be blood in the streets and not that of police or the Military. I'm thinking the courts will be plugged up with those arrested and there will be no deals made, they'll go to jail. There is good "intel" out there if you know where to look that says this is all planned already and people will be in place to react quickly.


    Trump will go full blown blitzkrieg on the communist establishment that inundates the halls of congress, the main stream media, the mega government bureaucracy, and yes and probably the most important the take down of the Teachers Unions, the NEA, and yes all major universities! We see the long lasting damage of our children that have emerged in the last 25 to 30 years in our school systems - it is just appalling! These children are our future, and they are simply not prepared to inherit the responsibilities of guiding this country into a new era after we are gone.




    Biden’s 2020 Party Platform Proposal Seeks to Abolish America’s Suburban Communities

    12 VII 2020.

    The 'dems' see illegals, undocumented and migrants as their voters. When they regain office they won't leave anything to chance AGAIN. That's as plain as daylight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jagdmesser View Post
    Democrats will vigorously enforce the Fair Housing Act and the Home Mortgage Disclosure Act and hold lenders accountable for discriminatory practices. We will use the federal government to enforce settlements against discriminatory lenders, and require communities to proactively review housing patterns and remedy local policies that have a discriminatory effect.
    We have seen these policies under Bush administration and the first housing bubble. It has been predicted for many years that the elite will displace the white suburbs with minorities as upper class desire to reclaim certain cities for work proximity and older aesthetic homes. We lost many historic neighborhoods to poor Blacks and Hispanics as crime increased. Some of our suburban areas have also suffered from economic slumps and lost jobs so that the federal governments hand out vouchers to fill in the lagging real estate markets. The government also contracts to build low-income projects, which collapse our schools within five years. Interesting enough, I see many of the burbs going Asian, low to high income.

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    I don't think Trump's re-election is a forgone conclusion. Far from it, in fact. Like last time, he has the entire media apparatus (Fox News notwithstanding) mobilized against him, as well as the minority grievance lobby, but also organized labour (ironically) - which is going to create headaches in those manufacturing-wasteland swing states that propelled him in 2016. Plus, it has to be said, his record is mixed. He talked a big game, but has, in practice, tried to be too conciliatory. Only recently does it seem like he has woken up to the fact that everything from the centre leftwards hates him, is still apoplectic that he won, and will do anything to remove him, no matter what he does in office.

    Given that the Democrats have now been full-on hijacked by Marxists and are running on what is probably the most progressive and destructive platform ever seen in the west - kowtowing to BLM types, etc. - this is doubtless the most important election the US has ever faced. If Trump loses, America is finished, figuratively and otherwise. That the Democratic nominee is transparently senile and literally can't string together a coherent sentence or thought, yet is competitive, adds to the overall absurdity. Although, that does seem to be part of the plan - Biden will be a figurehead for a backroom cabal of the hard-left that will really be calling the shots.

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    Trump overturning Obama’s plan to compel suburbs to build low-income housing is not racist. It’s sensible





    The president has been called a “segregationist” for repealing an order forcing suburbs to build “affordable housing” or lose funding. But it’s got nothing to do with race – 35% of those living in the ‘burbs are non-white already.




    President Donald Trump this week repealed an Obama era executive order called the AFFH (Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing). It was gutted quickly after Trump took office, but Trump finally repealed it completely on the 29th of July. The original act was blatant social engineering, which would have forced suburban towns to build high-density housing in the middle of low-density areas.



    To no one’s surprise, the political left has already tried to brand this as racist. Connecticut Democratic Senator Chris Murphy outright called President Trump “a segregationist.” Kevin Liptak and Gregory Wallace at CNN stated that Trump was trying to “stoke racial divisions with the administrative rule change. This of course ignores the fact that non-white populations in suburbs have been rising since the 1990s, and is now up to 35% of the total, according to the left-leaning
    Brookings Institute.



    But hey, why let facts get in the way of a good narrative? The fact that the suburban population reflects the overall diversity of the country means absolutely nothing to the political left. Any time you oppose the idea of social engineering like the AFFH, you are a racist. Granted, as I’ve seen in my own life, you’re branded a racist for challenging any narrative.




    There are two realities at work here. The first is that the original executive order was a disastrous idea even in concept. Low density areas would have to scrap zoning laws, build bigger water and sewer lines, expand social services, add mass transit, and so forth. This would increase taxes, making life for those who don’t want to live in a giant city too much like… living in a giant city. It defeats the purpose of a low-density area! It makes about as much sense as a vegan restaurant introducing steak to the menu.



    The second is how much it ignores reality. As I mentioned earlier, more and more people who are non-white are fleeing to the suburbs. The appeal of those areas and that type of life isn’t something that has anything to do with skin color. It has everything to do with quality of life. As someone who lived in the suburbs of Chicago in the 1990s, I know it’s never been a ‘whites only’ type of life. Ever. If there was even a shred of discrimination in those neighborhoods, the federal government would snap down on it before you could blink.



    Segregation is not something that exists in the United States. We threw it out with Jim Crow. People are fleeing to the suburbs, and want the suburbs to remain the suburbs, because it’s calm and peaceful. It doesn’t have the trappings of a big city life. There’s less crime. There’s less noise. None of these things have anything to do with skin color. The white picket fence and two-story house lifestyle is something that all Americans find appealing, because it’s something we all dream of. But this just shows how much the media is out of touch with America.



    If you want to live in the suburbs and don’t want it to be the city, I suppose you’re not black, according to CNN and the Democratic Party. How classy of them.





    Facts are that the rich aren't affected by Obama's laws. Only the middle class. They are forcing the ghetto into the suburbs.



    Oh, didn't Obama buy a house on Martha's Vineyard? And one in a spacious neighborhood in D.C.? Yep, I guess just because I was born a white Caucasian, I'm automatically a racist.





    R T: Trump overturning Obama’s plan to compel suburbs to build low-income housing is not racist. It’s sensible 31 VII 2020.



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    Trump Should Wargame Secession, Too



    Earlier this month, the New York Times revealed that top-level Democrats have been wargaming possible outcomes of the November 2020 election and are considering secession if things don’t go their way. This should come as a surprise to no one. Since the epoch-changing George Floyd riots — which began in May and are still ongoing — America has endured its greatest, most destructive, and most painful social hemorrhaging since the Civil War. That a second civil war might very well be on the horizon — given all the uncertainties surrounding the upcoming election, COVID-19, and racial unrest — wargaming such an eventuality not only makes sense, it’s downright prudent.

    Much has been written about the Floyd riots and their entirely fraudulent origins. As we all know, the far-Left has manufactured unrest through generous donations to terrorist organizations such as Antifa and Black Lives Matter, and also through its methodical destruction of not just our cities, but of the social trust and civic competence that goes into maintaining them. They are blaming police, but point to chimeras such as “systemic racism” and “white supremacy” as the real villains in their cartoonishly Manichean and black supremacist worldview. That these riots have in fact caused crime to spike in many cities, resulting in even greater numbers of blacks being killed (the very people whose lives are supposed to matter), makes no difference to the Left. They do this because they can — because they hate whites, they hate nationalism, they hate traditionalism, and because they hate everyone in power who isn’t them.

    The focal point of the Left’s hatred is, of course, President Trump. Regardless of what Trump has accomplished as Commander in Chief, they see him as the representative of white collective interests, and therefore someone who must be destroyed. And they are not entirely wrong. No president since Ronald Reagan (or maybe even Dwight Eisenhower) has been as implicitly aligned with white racial interests as Donald Trump. That he appeared virtually out of nowhere in the second decade of the twenty-first century to roll back leftward gains and to remind whites that they do indeed have collective interests after all. . . well, that was just too much for many on the Left to bear.

    That Trump is at best a tolerable champion of white America (and, at worst, no better than any other cuckservative, back-stabbing Republican) makes no difference to the Left as well. Their anti-white racism is so complete they have no interest in such picayune distinctions. In fact, they are so consumed by hatred that their leadership in the Democrat Party is not even trying to hide the fact that it wishes to dissolve the Union if it cannot stop Donald Trump:

    But conveniently, a group of former top government officials called the Transition Integrity Project actually gamed four possible scenarios, including one that doesn’t look that different from 2016: a big popular win for Mr. Biden, and a narrow electoral defeat, presumably reached after weeks of counting the votes in Pennsylvania. For their war game, they cast John Podesta, who was Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman, in the role of Mr. Biden. They expected him, when the votes came in, to concede, just as Mrs. Clinton had.

    But Mr. Podesta, playing Mr. Biden, shocked the organizers by saying he felt his party wouldn’t let him concede. Alleging voter suppression, he persuaded the governors of Wisconsin and Michigan to send pro-Biden electors to the Electoral College.


    In that scenario, California, Oregon, and Washington then threatened to secede from the United States if Mr. Trump took office as planned. The House named Mr. Biden president; the Senate and White House stuck with Mr. Trump. At that point in the scenario, the nation stopped looking to the media for cues, and waited to see what the military would do.

    When one-half of a nation’s major political parties is seriously considering secession prior to a presidential election, you know that that nation’s future is in doubt. To assume that the American political system, which was designed when whites held a demographic supermajority, will survive the next few elections as non-whites take up an ever-increasing share of the population is simply naďve. Something’s gotta give, and by November 2020 there is a slim yet not-nothing chance that the Democratic Party — the representative of non-white collective interests — will be willing to give it.

    Faced with such an adversary, Trump and his people should wargame what would happen if the Democrats do resort to extralegal means to get what they want post-election. In the case of Trump winning unambiguously with the divide between him and Joe Biden being too great to be fudged, we can assume that any Left-wing secession efforts would be half-hearted and easily crushed (and therefore likely not attempted). This will be good for the Right and good for America, but it won’t save America. This will only give American whites more time to prepare for that fateful day when America finally does break apart roughly along racial lines.

    Likewise, there would be no Left-wing secession if Joe Biden wins unambiguously. In this case, the Left would get what it wants, which is to assume absolute power, take pitiless revenge against the Right, and pull the anti-white day of reckoning as close to the present as possible. Since such a scenario does not involve Left-wing secession, wargaming it falls beyond the scope of this essay. The topic of Right-wing secession, on the other hand, will be dealt with in part two of this series.

    The likeliest scenario involving Left-wing secession would be the one described above: Trump wins a squeaker via the electoral college but loses the popular vote. Biden (on the advice of his hard-Left handlers) refuses to concede and pulls enough strings to get the House to declare for the Dems. Meanwhile, the Senate and Executive Branch plop for Trump. This would truly be a “house divided,” and the Left would ascribe to itself the political capital to call for exit of the Left Coast. In this circumstance, History would be opening up a gateway for decisive action that could potentially change everything forever. Anyone with enough vision, money, manpower, and chutzpah could march through it and into the history books. An extreme example would be an Army general putting down riots in several cities and then crowning himself emperor ŕ la Napoleon. What could anyone do to stop him?

    Absent such a third-party intrusion or any eventuality involving foreign invasion or nuclear weapons (which would be much trickier to predict at this point), Trump’s wargame must entail the Left Coast declaring itself its own nation rather than submitting to another four years of low unemployment, favorable trade deals, and media-trolling under Trump. Now, my first instinct would be to say, “let them go.” Good riddance to bad garbage, and all that. From a Right-wing perspective, what downside could there possibly be to losing twenty-to-thirty million Leftists, Democrats, and liberals, a sizeable portion of whom would be non-white? Greg Johnson wrote an excellent analysis of this phenomenon — known as Calexit — after Trump’s victory in 2016. “In short, after Calexit, there would be fewer but better Americans,” he wrote.

    From a white nationalist perspective, this is as true now as ever. But from the perspective of Donald Trump, who will have to deal with how the country has changed since 2016, simply letting the Left Coast go would not be as simple as it would seem. Without California, Washington, and Oregon, being a Leftist of any stripe in America would cease to have a point. The electoral loss of those three states alone would shift the rest of the country so far to the Right to make it completely intolerable for most left-of-center people. If we lose the Left Coast, any wargame scenario should include the likely possibility of East Coast blue states cashing in their chips as well. This would include large portions of the mid-Atlantic states and New England. And what about blue cities in otherwise red states, such as Chicago and Houston? What about states in the former Confederacy that are over a quarter black, such as Alabama, South Carolina, Georgia, and Mississippi? What about border states in the Southwest that are almost as Mexican as they are white? A hung election could trigger massive unrest in those places which could dwarf the Floyd riots.

    If the Democrats are wargaming secession, Trump would be remiss not to count on Antifa and BLM doing so as well. At this point, we must assume that these terrorist organizations already have plans in place to demolish bridges, dams, and infrastructure in red states in order to disorganize, demoralize, and hobble the Right once hostilities begin. This is their kind of warfare, and if they can shut off the lights in Topeka, Kansas the day before a city-wide, anti-white pogrom, so much the better for them. Essentially, we would have to assume that the far Left will stop at nothing to gain control of this country.

    How is a president going to handle all of this? By letting the Left Coast go, Trump would be ensuring the death of the country he had sworn to serve. This would be entering uncharted territory with unfathomable chaos and complications ahead. Who knows how that would turn out? On the other hand, not letting the Left Coast go would require unleashing the military upon domestic enemies. This tactic may very well lead to civil war, depending upon the fitness and loyalty of the US military and the strength and will of the insurgents.

    Best case scenario, Trump crushes them with reasonable casualties. The insurgency, like the Civil War, has a beginning and end, after which we have a formal surrender and a return to the status quo, such as it is. Furthermore, a well-armed and motivated red state populace organizes enough to resist whatever attacks the insurgents plan for them.

    Worst case scenario, the US military struggles with a well-funded and ruthless insurgency that spreads havoc and terror in dozens of locations. The military, the national guard, and the police suffer from poor leadership and lack of cohesion thanks to decades of affirmative action and are hamstrung by their own politically correct rules and regs. Defeat after defeat eventually increases sympathy for the insurgents until a critical mass of the US fighting forces actually switches sides. After all, everyone loves a winner. And if backing the faster horse would mean a quicker resolution to the hostilities, then so be it. Then secession would no longer be on the table. Control of Washington, DC would be. By taking the insurgency on directly, Trump would be, in effect, risking everything.

    Bill Clinton never had to contemplate anything as bloodcurdling when launching hellfire in Waco, Texas. Only President Kennedy during the Cuban Missile Crisis may have carried a greater burden. But Kennedy’s situation was nothing like Trump’s wargame, and so little can be learned from it as a precedent. To find a precedent, one would have to go back to Abraham Lincoln himself.

    I’m sure that if Trump ever wargames Left-wing secession, he’ll employ top experts with a better handle on the specifics than I have. They will likely have a more accurate understanding of the enemy’s strength as well as the military’s. Such planning, if done competently, would be worth infinitely more than my armchair spit-balling. However, the best chance of solving a problem requires a complete understanding of that problem before any attempts are made to solve it. Trump’s experts could wargame with the best possible data twelve hours a day from now until the election, but if they don’t truly understand the problem then it’s possible they’ll find themselves going into hiding the day that Lenin’s successor sets foot in the White House.

    And what exactly is the problem? Due to America’s increasing racial diversity, the tribalist nature of human beings, and the reality of racial differences, America is becoming ungovernable. And no amount of MAGA hat, civic-nationalist rah-rah is going to change that. This is an irreversible process. To try to stop it militarily would be pure folly. Better to climb aboard that crazy train and steer it away from the cliff than attempt to stop it in its tracks.

    When wargaming this problem, a proper understanding points to one solution with an excellent chance of averting catastrophe. (Sadly, this is the one Trump will least likely consider, but I will present it anyway.) Trump, upon a close victory in November, should anticipate Left-wing secession and then. . . get this. . . sweeten the deal. California, Washington, and Oregon want to secede? Great. But why don’t we also let New York south and east of Albany go as well? And most of New England. And Philadelphia, New Jersey, DC, and Northern Virginia, too. They could all be part of one country if they want, separated by thousands of miles, sort of like Pakistan and Bangladesh once upon a time. In any case, Trump’s people should know ahead of time what territory a post-America America can cede to the enemy and what territory it can’t, and then bargain accordingly. By dictating the terms of the split, Trump will be avoiding much of the chaos and complications mentioned above.

    Do the blacks want reparations? Trump should be prepared to give them exactly that in return for a black homeland in Georgia and South Carolina, to which all red-state blacks must go. Win-win for them, right? And in the Southwest, I’m sure it wouldn’t take much to initiate Reconquista in parts of New Mexico and Arizona which effectively belong to the Mexicans anyway.

    In return, Trump should make a few non-negotiable demands such as an even partition of the military and the debt as well as a reasonable timeframe in which to allow a peaceful transfer of populations. He should also demand that legacy, red-state America (which he would presumably lead for a time) return to its pre-1965 demographics. He should enshrine that sentiment in law and in his country’s new constitution. He should also make it abundantly clear that if these demands are not met and the Left still wishes to secede, he will bomb blue city after blue city until they realize the wisdom of doing business with Donald Trump.

    It will be a difficult offer to refuse, and a clever trick to boot since it will enable Donald Trump to wargame without a war.

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